TRICH traded to colts
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Lawrence Vickers was the X Factor in Peyton Hillis' breakout season IMO.
I know having Steinbach helped but Vickers was one of the best FB's in the NFL.
but Vickers was one of the best FB's in the NFL.
yes. no doubt.
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"man you gotta be the new 'biggest asshole' on the board."
But you're still one dumbass....it's soooo easy to troll for numbnuts like you...I don't even need to bait the hook... He wasn't worth the 3rd pick in the draft but you want more, maybe he wasn't even the best back in the draft (proven so far) but you "think" they should have gotten more? Next you will be whining like the bitch you are that the Browns didn't get a 1st rounder before they release Weeden...Please...the next time you have a "thought" keep it a secret....You won't look like such a moron when you hit post.
Don't worry sugarbump no one will overtake you as biggest asshole on the board
i never said he was worth the pick fuckhead.
if you had been around here when that draft happened you would have known that i was screaming for the browns to take claiborne.
and i also never said we should have got more for him.
you smarmed someone with a smart ass comment asking what's higher than a first round pick and i just showed you.
every post you make is condescending to whomever it is and you come off looking like a dick.
go back to where you came from douche. only reason you came here in the first place was because of the TR trade and you could open your stinkin stooler hole.
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yeah of course there is dickface.
how about a:
1. first and second rounder
2. a first and third rounder
3. a first and 4th rounder
etc.
OR how about this:
1. a first rounder and a player
2. a first rounder a 5th rounder and a player
etc. etc.
"man you gotta be the new 'biggest asshole' on the board."
But you're still one dumbass....it's soooo easy to troll for numbnuts like you...I don't even need to bait the hook... He wasn't worth the 3rd pick in the draft but you want more, maybe he wasn't even the best back in the draft (proven so far) but you "think" they should have gotten more? Next you will be whining like the bitch you are that the Browns didn't get a 1st rounder before they release Weeden...Please...the next time you have a "thought" keep it a secret....You won't look like such a moron when you hit post.
Don't worry sugarbump no one will overtake you as biggest asshole on the board
"man you gotta be the new 'biggest asshole' on the board."
But you're still one dumbass....it's soooo easy to troll for numbnuts like you...I don't even need to bait the hook... He wasn't worth the 3rd pick in the draft but you want more, maybe he wasn't even the best back in the draft (proven so far) but you "think" they should have gotten more? Next you will be whining like the bitch you are that the Browns didn't get a 1st rounder before they release Weeden...Please...the next time you have a "thought" keep it a secret....You won't look like such a moron when you hit post.
Don't worry sugarbump no one will overtake you as biggest asshole on the board
Maybe not, but you seem to have "dumbest shit ever stated" on lock at the moment.
I also think we should have gotten more.
We could have milked them for a middle round pick given we had more time.
The Colts went into that draft wanting to get Andrew Luck but are on record stating that they also loved Richardson. So essentially, they traded a 2014 1st round pick for a 2012 first round pick, straight up and also didn't have to pay any of his $13 million dollar bonus.
They perceived Trent to be a top tier talent and were also desperate at RB. We did not perceive him to be special, had no need for him, and are looking to build via the draft.
So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade.
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Trent's apologists are just like the wife defending her husband after he beat her.
Trent detractors are like fat guys who get dumped by their ridiculously hot GF's and then claim that they can do better than her anyway.
Look, Trent wasn't great, he wasn't special, the FO didn't want him, and we could use the extra picks.
But he's also not a garbage RB, either. More than 3/4ths of NFL teams would gladly take him solely because of his potential.
Potential that he's, as of yet, failed to reach.
In other words, he doesn't suck. But he sucked for us and we're better off with another first round pick. To say otherwise makes you look stupid and immature.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Jesus christ, really? This is a thread?
Some of you are so biased towards the browns it is ridiculous
It was one game on a new team and he's been there 3 days... god damn. Keep it in you pants...
Jesus christ, really? This is a thread?
Some of you are so biased towards the browns it is ridiculous
It was one game on a new team and he's been there 3 days... god damn. Keep it in you pants...
Biased? We are fans, of course we are biased.
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13 carries for 35 yards. First it was inexperience and a minor knee clean out. Then it was ribs. This year it was bad blocking. Now he's with the Colts playing with a back gaining more yards behind the same line.
I just can't take the excuses for this guy anymore. He isn't special. He's just a guy. We absolutely fleeced the Colts.
And the right side of our line is just HORRIBLE. I can't believe how bad Schwartz looks. He's like a statue.
13 carries for 35 yards. . Now he's with the Colts playing with a back gaining more yards behind the same line.
I just can't take the excuses for this guy anymore. He isn't special. He's just a guy. We absolutely fleeced the Colts.
And the right side of our line is just HORRIBLE. I can't believe how bad Schwartz looks. He's like a statue.
"First it was inexperience and a minor knee clean out. Then it was ribs. This year it was bad blocking"
More like:
Jake Taylor: Oh, Skip, they were a different team last year.
Lou Brown: Taylor, its not your job to make excuses. Thats all you
guys do good! Its either a *leg* thing or a *spiritual* thing, or
a *psychological* thing, or a *heart attack*!
Jake Taylor: Who used heart attack?
Lou Brown: Me.
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13 carries for 35 yards. . Now he's with the Colts playing with a back gaining more yards behind the same line.
I just can't take the excuses for this guy anymore. He isn't special. He's just a guy. We absolutely fleeced the Colts.
And the right side of our line is just HORRIBLE. I can't believe how bad Schwartz looks. He's like a statue.
"First it was inexperience and a minor knee clean out. Then it was ribs. This year it was bad blocking"
More like:
Jake Taylor: Oh, Skip, they were a different team last year.
Lou Brown: Taylor, its not your job to make excuses. Thats all you
guys do good! Its either a *leg* thing or a *spiritual* thing, or
a *psychological* thing, or a *heart attack*!
Jake Taylor: Who used heart attack?
Lou Brown: Me.
"First it was inexperience and a minor knee clean out. Then it was ribs. This year it was bad blocking"
More like:
Jake Taylor: Oh, Skip, they were a different team last year.
Lou Brown: Taylor, its not your job to make excuses. Thats all you
guys do good! Its either a *leg* thing or a *spiritual* thing, or
a *psychological* thing, or a *heart attack*!
Jake Taylor: Who used heart attack?
Lou Brown: Me.
put the meth pipe down and we might actually understand what you are talking about.
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Trent's apologists are just like the wife defending her husband after he beat her.
Trent detractors are like fat guys who get dumped by their ridiculously hot GF's and then claim that they can do better than her anyway.
Look, Trent wasn't great, he wasn't special, the FO didn't want him, and we could use the extra picks.
But he's also not a garbage RB, either. More than 3/4ths of NFL teams would gladly take him solely because of his potential.
Potential that he's, as of yet, failed to reach.
In other words, he doesn't suck. But he sucked for us and we're better off with another first round pick. To say otherwise makes you look stupid and immature.
More than 3/4ths of NFL teams would gladly take him solely because of his potential. Potential that he's, as of yet, failed to reach.
Nothing gets a coach fired faster than potential.
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"man you gotta be the new 'biggest asshole' on the board."
But you're still one dumbass....it's soooo easy to troll for numbnuts like you...I don't even need to bait the hook... He wasn't worth the 3rd pick in the draft but you want more, maybe he wasn't even the best back in the draft (proven so far) but you "think" they should have gotten more? Next you will be whining like the bitch you are that the Browns didn't get a 1st rounder before they release Weeden...Please...the next time you have a "thought" keep it a secret....You won't look like such a moron when you hit post.
Don't worry sugarbump no one will overtake you as biggest asshole on the board
Maybe not, but you seem to have "dumbest shit ever stated" on lock at the moment.
I also think we should have gotten more.
We could have milked them for a middle round pick given we had more time.
The Colts went into that draft wanting to get Andrew Luck but are on record stating that they also loved Richardson. So essentially, they traded a 2014 1st round pick for a 2012 first round pick, straight up and also didn't have to pay any of his $13 million dollar bonus.
They perceived Trent to be a top tier talent and were also desperate at RB. We did not perceive him to be special, had no need for him, and are looking to build via the draft.
So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade.
Maybe not, but you seem to have "dumbest shit ever stated" on lock at the moment.
I also think we should have gotten more.
We could have milked them for a middle round pick given we had more time.
The Colts went into that draft wanting to get Andrew Luck but are on record stating that they also loved Richardson. So essentially, they traded a 2014 1st round pick for a 2012 first round pick, straight up and also didn't have to pay any of his $13 million dollar bonus.
They perceived Trent to be a top tier talent and were also desperate at RB. We did not perceive him to be special, had no need for him, and are looking to build via the draft.
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"So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade"
Honestly...How on God's green island in the Pacific did you flunk out of GM school? The way you talk you should have GM'd your way to 5 super bowls and drafted a dozen hall of famers. Cleveland fans think ( fill in the blank) coach will come to Cleveland or (fill in the blank) free agent will sign or bitch because they feel the front office didn't "try" hard enough to sign whomever and then whine because the Browns have to overpay and pay starter money to other teams backups... With the luck of the Browns they will pull some bull shit miracle, finish 7-9 and draft 17th while the Colts go to the playoffs and the Richardson's pick is 30th
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"First it was inexperience and a minor knee clean out. Then it was ribs. This year it was bad blocking"
More like:
Jake Taylor: Oh, Skip, they were a different team last year.
Lou Brown: Taylor, its not your job to make excuses. Thats all you
guys do good! Its either a *leg* thing or a *spiritual* thing, or
a *psychological* thing, or a *heart attack*!
Jake Taylor: Who used heart attack?
Lou Brown: Me.
put the meth pipe down and we might actually understand what you are talking about.
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Looks like all the experts including Jim Brown knew what they were talking about.
Kneel when you say his name......
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Calm Down. It was one game. Against the 49ers at home. On a new team, new coach, new playbook... it's been 3 days. Wow
Calm Down. It was one game. Against the 49ers at home. On a new team, new coach, new playbook... it's been 3 days. Wow
I agree with that.....however, I am glad we shipped him and got a first rounder. Trent is a plugger who needs 25 carries a game to get his numbers and we aren't running a O that is going to grind one back 25-30 times a game.
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Maybe not, but you seem to have "dumbest shit ever stated" on lock at the moment.
I also think we should have gotten more.
We could have milked them for a middle round pick given we had more time.
The Colts went into that draft wanting to get Andrew Luck but are on record stating that they also loved Richardson. So essentially, they traded a 2014 1st round pick for a 2012 first round pick, straight up and also didn't have to pay any of his $13 million dollar bonus.
They perceived Trent to be a top tier talent and were also desperate at RB. We did not perceive him to be special, had no need for him, and are looking to build via the draft.
.
"So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade"
Honestly...How on God's green island in the Pacific did you flunk out of GM school? The way you talk you should have GM'd your way to 5 super bowls and drafted a dozen hall of famers. Cleveland fans think ( fill in the blank) coach will come to Cleveland or (fill in the blank) free agent will sign or bitch because they feel the front office didn't "try" hard enough to sign whomever and then whine because the Browns have to overpay and pay starter money to other teams backups... With the luck of the Browns they will pull some bull shit miracle, finish 7-9 and draft 17th while the Colts go to the playoffs and the Richardson's pick is 30th
"So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade"
Honestly...How on God's green island in the Pacific did you flunk out of GM school? The way you talk you should have GM'd your way to 5 super bowls and drafted a dozen hall of famers. Cleveland fans think ( fill in the blank) coach will come to Cleveland or (fill in the blank) free agent will sign or bitch because they feel the front office didn't "try" hard enough to sign whomever and then whine because the Browns have to overpay and pay starter money to other teams backups... With the luck of the Browns they will pull some bull shit miracle, finish 7-9 and draft 17th while the Colts go to the playoffs and the Richardson's pick is 30th
There's never been a 24 year old GM in the history of the NFL. I still have 16 years of reading your dumb shit and making you look like an idiot before I attempt to become a GM.
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Maybe not, but you seem to have "dumbest shit ever stated" on lock at the moment.
I also think we should have gotten more.
We could have milked them for a middle round pick given we had more time.
The Colts went into that draft wanting to get Andrew Luck but are on record stating that they also loved Richardson. So essentially, they traded a 2014 1st round pick for a 2012 first round pick, straight up and also didn't have to pay any of his $13 million dollar bonus.
They perceived Trent to be a top tier talent and were also desperate at RB. We did not perceive him to be special, had no need for him, and are looking to build via the draft.
.
"So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade"
Honestly...How on God's green island in the Pacific did you flunk out of GM school? The way you talk you should have GM'd your way to 5 super bowls and drafted a dozen hall of famers. Cleveland fans think ( fill in the blank) coach will come to Cleveland or (fill in the blank) free agent will sign or bitch because they feel the front office didn't "try" hard enough to sign whomever and then whine because the Browns have to overpay and pay starter money to other teams backups... With the luck of the Browns they will pull some bull shit miracle, finish 7-9 and draft 17th while the Colts go to the playoffs and the Richardson's pick is 30th
"So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade"
Honestly...How on God's green island in the Pacific did you flunk out of GM school? The way you talk you should have GM'd your way to 5 super bowls and drafted a dozen hall of famers. Cleveland fans think ( fill in the blank) coach will come to Cleveland or (fill in the blank) free agent will sign or bitch because they feel the front office didn't "try" hard enough to sign whomever and then whine because the Browns have to overpay and pay starter money to other teams backups... With the luck of the Browns they will pull some bull shit miracle, finish 7-9 and draft 17th while the Colts go to the playoffs and the Richardson's pick is 30th
Multiple media sources said GM's around the league were shocked by the trade and weren't contacted about him being available. Several reporters have also noted that GM sources stated they would have easily given up more to get the guy. But hey I'm sure that's all bullshit too right? Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's right.
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So this morning...
1. USA Today runs an article, "Richardson Must Get Past the Excuses in Indy." That's the guy who earned us a first round pick.
2. LaConfora tweets that a lot of NFL types have known for some time that Brian Hoyer was the best quarterback "never to get his shot."
That was fast. Remember when the Browns were all crazy and shit? Like last week?
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So this morning...
1. USA Today runs an article, "Richardson Must Get Past the Excuses in Indy." That's the guy who earned us a first round pick.
2. LaConfora tweets that a lot of NFL types have known for some time that Brian Hoyer was the best quarterback "never to get his shot."
That was fast. Remember when the Browns were all crazy and shit? Like last week?
So this morning...
1. USA Today runs an article, "Richardson Must Get Past the Excuses in Indy." That's the guy who earned us a first round pick.
2. LaConfora tweets that a lot of NFL types have known for some time that Brian Hoyer was the best quarterback "never to get his shot."
That was fast. Remember when the Browns were all crazy and shit? Like last week?
I can't say I was happy about the trade and it will be some time yet before we can say for certain one way or the other. I had no problem with starting Hoyer at all and welcomed his chance. I'm not a Campell fan at all. Hoyer can and should get better with some reps and game time.
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Monday mornings for ya.
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Anything is better than watching Weeden fail constantly. I'm glad for Hoyer that he gets "his shot" and hope he makes the most of it.
Richardson is another story. I imagine even Hoyer wishes he had a back like Richardson to take the load sometimes... 50+ passes...
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