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  • @roody-poo said:

    To each his own. Personally I along with 99.9 percent of nfl viewers would take Jones over Gordan straight up. And I was speaking from the Bengals point of view, we wouldn't have use for someone like Taylor.

    Who cares what viewers think. What would coaches and GMs think. Again, the question over Gordon is just whether or not he can keep clean, not if he has the talent.

    And no, you can not use a talent like Taylor. Taylor actually stuffs the run. You prefer guys that give up 200 yards a game to bad running teams. You couldn't use a guy that was instrumental in holding Adrian Peterson to 88 yards on 25 carries, and whose longest gain was only 9 yards.

    @the-gipper said:

    Who cares what viewers think. What would coaches and GMs think. Again, the question over Gordon is just whether or not he can keep clean, not if he has the talent.

    And no, you can not use a talent like Taylor. Taylor actually stuffs the run. You prefer guys that give up 200 yards a game to bad running teams. You couldn't use a guy that was instrumental in holding Adrian Peterson to 88 yards on 25 carries, and whose longest gain was only 9 yards.

    No coach or GM of a successful team would take him over Julio and you know that. And you really love to ignore that the focus was on stopping Rodgers which the defense did better than almost anybody, don't ya?
  • @roody-poo said:

    AJ is very rarely injured. He is incredibly flexible and takes hits very well. Durability is a non issue. And to say Julio is more durable is laughable given all of his injuries.

    Did not say Julio was more durable.. said he was built better than Green.

    Which "rarely injured" knee was it that kept AJ out of the entire preseason?

    @tour2ma said:

    Did not say Julio was more durable.. said he was built better than Green.

    Which "rarely injured" knee was it that kept AJ out of the entire preseason?

    2 games of the pre season as a precaution since we didn't need him or want to risk it. Seriously, it's the fucking pre season.
  • @tour2ma said:

    Gip, defending Wheezy hurts your credibility.

    AJ is a damn good receiver to be sure.. as is Julio... but neither is in Calvin's class. He stands alone at the top right now.

    Gordon's talent is conparable to Green and Jones, but not yet proven.

    Gordon's off-field concerns are legit, but with Green there are on-filed concerns. Kid is not built for longevity in the pro game. Julio is built better. But Gordon's physicality really stands out... unless Calvin is brought into the mix again.

    He said he didn't know about Weeden. Nothing implies that he thinks Weeden is great or even mediocre. And Julio built better than Green?! Julio is injured every other game.

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    He said he didn't know about Weeden. Nothing implies that he thinks Weeden is great or even mediocre. And Julio built better than Green?! Julio is injured every other game.

    Right. Weeden looked like Montana/Brady/Manning in those first 2 preseason games....against the other teams first strings. Then he looked like Opie after that. So who is to say. He has a brilliant arm. Perhaps the head needs to catch up. As someone said, his firs 17 games outshone anything P. Manning did in his first 17 games.

    So, right, we just don't know.

    And, absolutely....Julio Jones is no AJ Green. Those two guys were in the same draft. When Green was gone ahead of where the Browns picked Heckert had no hesitation about moving down....because he believed Jones was nowhere near Green.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Little may not be the best but he has shown some flashes. Double Gordon and Bess and Little could surprise some folks. hope, hope!

    re; Little. Browns need to short leash his "the traffic laws don't apply to me" silly ass. he continues to make mental errors on the field. hard to say what he could do if he had a bit more self discipline..

    @slowburn said:

    re; Little. Browns need to short leash his "the traffic laws don't apply to me" silly ass. he continues to make mental errors on the field. hard to say what he could do if he had a bit more self discipline..

    I agree, but man! maybe a shock collar can make that dog hunt!

  • booty loaf:

    your photo is disturbing. very much

    @slowburn said:



    booty loaf:

    your photo is disturbing. very much

    yeah. what's up with that? is it a realistic photo of a mannequin made out of wax that's half melted with a black wig on with a japnese part down the middle. or just some photoshopped weirdness?
  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    And that's why you are an idiot.

    Nobody is in the same league as Megatron. And I played against Green in high school, watched him in college...he's not Megatron good.

    He's a top 10 WR. Probably top 5 in most polls. But Fitzgerald and Megatron are leagues ahead of Green at this point in his career.

    Fitzgerald?? That's a stretch. Megatron is better right now absolutely. But once he starts to fall off and Green peaks, it'll be AJs league.

    @roody-poo said:

    Fitzgerald?? That's a stretch. Megatron is better right now absolutely. But once he starts to fall off and Green peaks, it'll be AJs league.

    I would put Johnson and Green on top, even of Fitzgerald....who is/was fabulous. But since Warner left it has been a bad deal for him.

  • @roody-poo said:

    Fitzgerald?? That's a stretch. Megatron is better right now absolutely. But once he starts to fall off and Green peaks, it'll be AJs league.

    I would put Johnson and Green on top, even of Fitzgerald....who is/was fabulous. But since Warner left it has been a bad deal for him.

    @the-gipper said:

    I would put Johnson and Green on top, even of Fitzgerald....who is/was fabulous. But since Warner left it has been a bad deal for him.

    I expected him to improve with Palmer and he has. Just isn't at the level he used to be. His time has come and passed.
  • @the-gipper said:

    Who cares what viewers think. What would coaches and GMs think. Again, the question over Gordon is just whether or not he can keep clean, not if he has the talent.

    And no, you can not use a talent like Taylor. Taylor actually stuffs the run. You prefer guys that give up 200 yards a game to bad running teams. You couldn't use a guy that was instrumental in holding Adrian Peterson to 88 yards on 25 carries, and whose longest gain was only 9 yards.

    No coach or GM of a successful team would take him over Julio and you know that. And you really love to ignore that the focus was on stopping Rodgers which the defense did better than almost anybody, don't ya?

    @roody-poo said:

    No coach or GM of a successful team would take him over Julio and you know that.

    No, I don't fucking know that, and furthermore, I don't believe that.

    And you really love to ignore that the focus was on stopping Rodgers which the defense did better than almost anybody, don't ya?

    I didn't ignore it, I just don't know about it. I didn't see that game. I just know you got ran on.

    If you had Taylor, you wouldn't have gotten run on so badly.

  • @slowburn said:



    booty loaf:

    your photo is disturbing. very much

    yeah. what's up with that? is it a realistic photo of a mannequin made out of wax that's half melted with a black wig on with a japnese part down the middle. or just some photoshopped weirdness?

    @miktoxic said:

    yeah. what's up with that? is it a realistic photo of a mannequin made out of wax that's half melted with a black wig on with a japnese part down the middle. of just some photoshopped weirdness?

  • @slowburn said:



    booty loaf:

    your photo is disturbing. very much

    yeah. what's up with that? is it a realistic photo of a mannequin made out of wax that's half melted with a black wig on with a japnese part down the middle. or just some photoshopped weirdness?

    @miktoxic said:

    yeah. what's up with that? is it a realistic photo of a mannequin made out of wax that's half melted with a black wig on with a japnese part down the middle. of just some photoshopped weirdness?

    I got it! fucking teletubbies! my toddler sons used to watch 'em on TV 10 years ago. thank Christ I had Looney Tunes to grow up with

  • @miktoxic said:

    yeah. what's up with that? is it a realistic photo of a mannequin made out of wax that's half melted with a black wig on with a japnese part down the middle. of just some photoshopped weirdness?

    @booty-loaf said:

    Eating ice cream with red eyes...I get it...lol

  • @roody-poo said:

    No coach or GM of a successful team would take him over Julio and you know that.

    No, I don't fucking know that, and furthermore, I don't believe that.

    And you really love to ignore that the focus was on stopping Rodgers which the defense did better than almost anybody, don't ya?

    I didn't ignore it, I just don't know about it. I didn't see that game. I just know you got ran on.

    If you had Taylor, you wouldn't have gotten run on so badly.

    @the-gipper said:

    @roody-poo said:

    No coach or GM of a successful team would take him over Julio and you know that.

    No, I don't fucking know that, and furthermore, I don't believe that.

    And you really love to ignore that the focus was on stopping Rodgers which the defense did better than almost anybody, don't ya?

    I didn't ignore it, I just don't know about it. I didn't see that game. I just know you got ran on.

    If you had Taylor, you wouldn't have gotten run on so badly.

    C'mon man, Julio is the obvious choice. Proven, no huge character issues or a looming year long suspension, he's the clear choice. Believe it.

    And the fact that they held Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the league (besides maybe Peyton) to a rating of 64.5 just a bit over 200 yards and a TD while picking him off twice is a testament to it. I can understand you underestimating the Bengals D since you didnt watch it, but you really should. They put on a show outside of the third quarter.

  • @the-gipper said:

    @roody-poo said:

    No coach or GM of a successful team would take him over Julio and you know that.

    No, I don't fucking know that, and furthermore, I don't believe that.

    And you really love to ignore that the focus was on stopping Rodgers which the defense did better than almost anybody, don't ya?

    I didn't ignore it, I just don't know about it. I didn't see that game. I just know you got ran on.

    If you had Taylor, you wouldn't have gotten run on so badly.

    C'mon man, Julio is the obvious choice. Proven, no huge character issues or a looming year long suspension, he's the clear choice. Believe it.

    And the fact that they held Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the league (besides maybe Peyton) to a rating of 64.5 just a bit over 200 yards and a TD while picking him off twice is a testament to it. I can understand you underestimating the Bengals D since you didnt watch it, but you really should. They put on a show outside of the third quarter.

    @roody-poo said:

    C'mon man, Julio is the obvious choice. Proven, no huge character issues or a looming year long suspension, he's the clear choice. Believe it.

    And the fact that they held Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the league (besides maybe Peyton) to a rating of 64.5 and a TD while picking him off twice is a testament to it. I can understand you underestimating the Bengals D since you didnt watch it, but you really should. They put on a show outside of the third quarter.

    and then got pretty lucky!

  • @roody-poo said:

    C'mon man, Julio is the obvious choice. Proven, no huge character issues or a looming year long suspension, he's the clear choice. Believe it.

    And the fact that they held Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the league (besides maybe Peyton) to a rating of 64.5 and a TD while picking him off twice is a testament to it. I can understand you underestimating the Bengals D since you didnt watch it, but you really should. They put on a show outside of the third quarter.

    and then got pretty lucky!

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    and then got pretty lucky!

    Lucky? They forced four turnovers and the offense took advantage to make a comeback. And that play at the end was a great football play by Johnson to get his helmet on the ball and great awareness by Reggie and T New on the return.
  • I've got to admit I really like Giovani Bernard

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    and then got pretty lucky!

    Lucky? They forced four turnovers and the offense took advantage to make a comeback. And that play at the end was a great football play by Johnson to get his helmet on the ball and great awareness by Reggie and T New on the return.

    @roody-poo said:

    Lucky? They forced four turnovers and the offense took advantage to make a comeback. And that play at the end was a great football play by Johnson to get his helmet on the ball and great awareness by Reggie and T New on the return.

    tell me more

  • @tour2ma said:

    Did not say Julio was more durable.. said he was built better than Green.

    Which "rarely injured" knee was it that kept AJ out of the entire preseason?

    2 games of the pre season as a precaution since we didn't need him or want to risk it. Seriously, it's the fucking pre season.

    It hurts me to see Fitzgerald wasting away in AZ...

    @roody-poo said:

    2 games of the pre season as a precaution since we didn't need him or want to risk it. Seriously, it's the fucking pre season.

    Point was that he was injured...try to stay on point.

    Green also missed a game in 2011 due to a hyperextended knee. Was it the same "rarely injured" one?

  • @the-gipper said:

    @roody-poo said:

    No coach or GM of a successful team would take him over Julio and you know that.

    No, I don't fucking know that, and furthermore, I don't believe that.

    And you really love to ignore that the focus was on stopping Rodgers which the defense did better than almost anybody, don't ya?

    I didn't ignore it, I just don't know about it. I didn't see that game. I just know you got ran on.

    If you had Taylor, you wouldn't have gotten run on so badly.

    C'mon man, Julio is the obvious choice. Proven, no huge character issues or a looming year long suspension, he's the clear choice. Believe it.

    And the fact that they held Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the league (besides maybe Peyton) to a rating of 64.5 just a bit over 200 yards and a TD while picking him off twice is a testament to it. I can understand you underestimating the Bengals D since you didnt watch it, but you really should. They put on a show outside of the third quarter.

    @roody-poo said:

    C'mon man, Julio is the obvious choice. Proven, no huge character issues or a looming year long suspension, he's the clear choice. Believe it.

    OK, absent the issues over drugs, I would NOT trade Gordon even up for Jones right now.

    And the fact that they held Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the league (besides maybe Peyton) to a rating of 64.5 just a bit over 200 yards and a TD while picking him off twice is a testament to it. I can understand you underestimating the Bengals D since you didnt watch it, but you really should. They put on a show outside of the third quarter.

    Isn't sacking the QB part of the show? The Browns got 6 sacks vs. Minn. Whatever you may say about Rodgers, the Packers O Line isn't any better than the Vikings.

  • @miktoxic said:

    yeah. what's up with that? is it a realistic photo of a mannequin made out of wax that's half melted with a black wig on with a japnese part down the middle. of just some photoshopped weirdness?

    @booty-loaf said:

    those dudes where tripping when they came up with that concept.

  • It hurts me to see Fitzgerald wasting away in AZ...

    @roody-poo said:

    2 games of the pre season as a precaution since we didn't need him or want to risk it. Seriously, it's the fucking pre season.

    Point was that he was injured...try to stay on point.

    Green also missed a game in 2011 due to a hyperextended knee. Was it the same "rarely injured" one?

    @tour2ma said:

    It hurts me to see Fitzgerald wasting away in AZ...

    Point was that he was injured...try to stay on point.

    Green also missed a game in 2011 due to a hyperextended knee. Was it the same "rarely injured" one?

    Different knee actually. And oh no, he missed two pre season games. Really kills our season. Megatron missed a couple too, guess he's super injury prone