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Phipps/Sipe Revisited?

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  • Well, I think Hoyer is seeing the field fairly similarly to a Sipe or Kosar.

    The Big NFL Arm doesn't mean "sees the field".

    Haven't heard, but I doubt they will start Weeden. The difference in seeing the field makes

    a huge diffference. And yes, Gordon returning does too. I'd have Weeden on a short leash now...if

    they decide to start him.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Well, I think Hoyer is seeing the field fairly similarly to a Sipe or Kosar.

    The Big NFL Arm doesn't mean "sees the field".

    Haven't heard, but I doubt they will start Weeden. The difference in seeing the field makes

    a huge diffference. And yes, Gordon returning does too. I'd have Weeden on a short leash now...if

    they decide to start him.

    If they start Weeden it may be so they can run him behind Mcgahee. Or an option type offense. They mixed things up pretty good last week. Lets hope they can keep the other guys guessing and the right game plan.

  • He won one game. Barely. Against a very poor defense that was missing their #1 QB.

    Would it be nice if he became the next Tom Brady? Yes.

    Is it likely. Certainly not.

    Calm down, guys.

  • He won one game. Barely. Against a very poor defense that was missing their #1 QB.

    Would it be nice if he became the next Tom Brady? Yes.

    Is it likely. Certainly not.

    Calm down, guys.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    He won one game. Barely. Against a very poor defense that was missing their #1 QB.

    Would it be nice if he became the next Tom Brady? Yes.

    Is it likely. Certainly not.

    Calm down, guys.

    Not the next Tom Brady. Just the next Brian Sipe.......but I agree with you, being the next Brian Sipe is not all it would be cracked up to be as people forget.....as entertaining and popular and exciting as Brian was as the Browns QB, he did not lead the Browns to even one single post season win in his career. (Compare to say Kosar with multiple post season wins)

  • Hoyer played like crap. Sorry, but rewatch the game. The Browns won inspite of Hoyer.

  • Already have Hempie... and you are dead wrong. Bad case of rectalitis pigmentosa I'm guessing. (Watching with your head up your ass.)

    I made the Phipps/ Sipe case when it was Wheezy vs. Colt, Gip...

    Wheezy vs. Hoyer works as well.

  • Hempy, a lot of people disagree with you, NFL experts and ex quarterbacks.

  • Hoyer had crappy moments yes. He also had very good moments. Overall I think we need to reserve judgement until we see more. There are plenty of one hit wonders out there. Hell Colt and Fry had a great game from time to time. The Vikings secondary sucks and their overall defense isn't much better. Time will tell, I hope he is the next Brady because if he is we are set bigtime with the draft picks we have as well. We could put a line in front of him like an iron wall. If he isn't lets hope Weeden is. I am still not convinced as some of you are that he is a lost cause.

  • to say hoyer played like crap is very ignorant. i was very very happy with what i saw

  • to say hoyer played like crap is very ignorant. i was very very happy with what i saw

    @booty-loaf said:

    to say hoyer played like crap is very ignorant. i was very very happy with what i saw

    I liked what I saw for the most part. Ints can and often are fatal. But the goahead drive at the end was a thing of beauty and made up for a sucky 3rd qtr. I wanna see more is all I can say.

  • Most of his "very good" moments were due to defense failure. The first TD to Gordon was a outright blown coverage which no other reciever on the Browns would have a chance at.

    Hoyer is a one read bore. Will Chud take him down for Campbell(Weeden won't be cleared to play) to try and save the game?

  • Clowns Blow said:

    TL;DR

    But just based on the sentiment you seem to post with, I can assume that both of those quarterbacks were good. Now I'll assure you that this is not that controversy revisited, as both Hoyer and Weeden suck fat balls.

    Yeah, I'm sure you know that after Hoyer has all of 2 NFL games as a starter under his belt. Since you seem to be lacking in knowledge of NFL history- a couple of HOF quarterbacks- Johnny Unitas and Len Dawson both got cut before they made it big. Think the Falcons may have thought they blew it big time trading Bret Farve for a second round pick?

  • Most of his "very good" moments were due to defense failure. The first TD to Gordon was a outright blown coverage which no other reciever on the Browns would have a chance at.

    Hoyer is a one read bore. Will Chud take him down for Campbell(Weeden won't be cleared to play) to try and save the game?

    @hempman said:

    Most of his "very good" moments were due to defense failure. The first TD to Gordon was a outright blown coverage which no other reciever on the Browns would have a chance at.

    Hoyer is a one read bore. Will Chud take him down for Campbell(Weeden won't be cleared to play) to try and save the game?

    You must have been watching a different game

  • Most of his "very good" moments were due to defense failure. The first TD to Gordon was a outright blown coverage which no other reciever on the Browns would have a chance at.

    Hoyer is a one read bore. Will Chud take him down for Campbell(Weeden won't be cleared to play) to try and save the game?

    @hempman said:

    Most of his "very good" moments were due to defense failure. The first TD to Gordon was a outright blown coverage which no other reciever on the Browns would have a chance at.

    Hoyer is a one read bore. Will Chud take him down for Campbell(Weeden won't be cleared to play) to try and save the game?

    Hey look everybody....Jason Campbell reads the Browns Board!

  • @hempman said:

    Most of his "very good" moments were due to defense failure. The first TD to Gordon was a outright blown coverage which no other reciever on the Browns would have a chance at.

    Hoyer is a one read bore. Will Chud take him down for Campbell(Weeden won't be cleared to play) to try and save the game?

    Hey look everybody....Jason Campbell reads the Browns Board!

    @mark-o said:

    Hey look everybody....Jason Campbell reads the Browns Board!

    I think it's Ghoolie LOL...