Why Do Some People Hype Up Hoyer?
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sometimes the best grooming for any QB starts with watching and waiting... (Aaron Rogers)
Steve Young started off in the USFL (remember?) then in Tampa Bay and did not have a great start to his career ...
til he got to SF and I think he even waited abit behind Montana...
this trial with Hoyer could be huge or be a bust, but is no different if it were any other high expectation QB coming from the draft.
but in the meantime, it is making Sundays more fun to watch and anticipate?
sometimes the best grooming for any QB starts with watching and waiting... (Aaron Rogers)
Steve Young started off in the USFL (remember?) then in Tampa Bay and did not have a great start to his career ...
til he got to SF and I think he even waited abit behind Montana...
this trial with Hoyer could be huge or be a bust, but is no different if it were any other high expectation QB coming from the draft.
but in the meantime, it is making Sundays more fun to watch and anticipate?
I do agree that, unless you find some sort of ridiculous All-Star, sitting and waiting is the best way to groom a QB. I also believe that, more often than not, a player lives and dies by the system he's in and the coaching staff around him.
But Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers have had many backups and none of them have gone on to be All-Stars themselves. There's only so much that someone can learn.
Hopefully, Hoyer is more of a Brady or Rodgers clone than a Flynn clone.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
We'll find out. I just know he has a TON of "insider" fans who like to claim him. Phil Simms loves the hell out of him and he's one of many, obviously including Lombardi.
Here's what I've seen: Spot accuracy, compact release, gets the ball out out fast, nice but not overwhelming mobility, can make every throw but won't "wow" you (about like the 50% of NFL starters between "cannon" and "noodle"). I also saw a few glaring mistakes. Seems to be fiery and takes charge of the huddle, seems to be smart and/or football smart.
Again... I'm intrigued. He's been intriguing me for the three years the Browns have been talking about him!
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We'll find out. I just know he has a TON of "insider" fans who like to claim him. Phil Simms loves the hell out of him and he's one of many, obviously including Lombardi.
Here's what I've seen: Spot accuracy, compact release, gets the ball out out fast, nice but not overwhelming mobility, can make every throw but won't "wow" you (about like the 50% of NFL starters between "cannon" and "noodle"). I also saw a few glaring mistakes. Seems to be fiery and takes charge of the huddle, seems to be smart and/or football smart.
Again... I'm intrigued. He's been intriguing me for the three years the Browns have been talking about him!
We'll find out. I just know he has a TON of "insider" fans who like to claim him. Phil Simms loves the hell out of him and he's one of many, obviously including Lombardi.
Here's what I've seen: Spot accuracy, compact release, gets the ball out out fast, nice but not overwhelming mobility, can make every throw but won't "wow" you (about like the 50% of NFL starters between "cannon" and "noodle"). I also saw a few glaring mistakes. Seems to be fiery and takes charge of the huddle, seems to be smart and/or football smart.
Again... I'm intrigued. He's been intriguing me for the three years the Browns have been talking about him!
His overall game management is much better than we've seen in some time as well. If he keeps up the good and limits the turn overs.........we may have something!
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No guarantees what may happen, but Hoyer is smart & decisive with TOUCH on his passes. Those are things we've seen little (if any) of from any other Browns' QBs since the return. Don't give me the "physical shortages" either, or I will throw out a 5'9" 185 lb undrafted WR who ran a 4.65 40.....ever hear of Wes Welker? I want to see a lot more of Hoyer. Yes, he threw some picks, but he came back & led us to a W. Besides, were the picks all his or maybe, just MAYBE due to a misrun route by a WR? In addition, the players around him played better. That says a lot about our QB.
I'm not ready to ordain Hoyer after one game, but I DO like what he brings to the position. Time will tell whether or not it's enough. We'll see.
Mike
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sometimes the best grooming for any QB starts with watching and waiting... (Aaron Rogers)
Steve Young started off in the USFL (remember?) then in Tampa Bay and did not have a great start to his career ...
til he got to SF and I think he even waited abit behind Montana...
this trial with Hoyer could be huge or be a bust, but is no different if it were any other high expectation QB coming from the draft.
but in the meantime, it is making Sundays more fun to watch and anticipate?
I do agree that, unless you find some sort of ridiculous All-Star, sitting and waiting is the best way to groom a QB. I also believe that, more often than not, a player lives and dies by the system he's in and the coaching staff around him.
But Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers have had many backups and none of them have gone on to be All-Stars themselves. There's only so much that someone can learn.
Hopefully, Hoyer is more of a Brady or Rodgers clone than a Flynn clone.
I do agree that, unless you find some sort of ridiculous All-Star, sitting and waiting is the best way to groom a QB. I also believe that, more often than not, a player lives and dies by the system he's in and the coaching staff around him.
But Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers have had many backups and none of them have gone on to be All-Stars themselves. There's only so much that someone can learn.
Hopefully, Hoyer is more of a Brady or Rodgers clone than a Flynn clone.
for sure
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Actually...there's a lot you don't know about. Part of that information is anything about football.
And this post has nothing to do with hoyer. Its about you....a clueless fantasy football fag.
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I could give you 18 reasons.
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Rodgers backed up Favre, Brady backed up Bledsoe, and Phillip Rivers backed up Brees.
But Curtis Painter might skew the numbers more in your direction when it is all tallied.
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this said (zombo) would be a hollywood grammy winning movie if the home-town kid made good and won us 8 games this year.
of course it wouldn't be on the scale of 'rudy' or any other fantastical sports movie
BUT
it sure is hell would make me feel better knowing the fans can see this kid can play and take the #1 trump card (franchise QB) out of lombardi's hands.
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Wow, some of us can't stand success, no matter how small.
No. It's that most of us get all worked up over one performance, one call, one play, one whatever and then extrapolate times a million.
Yes, Hoyer played decent. Yes, he looked poised and made mostly good decisions. Yes, he seems to have a certain je ne sais quoi, or at least, he did against Minnesota's abysmal defense.
But he certainly made mistakes. Against the aforementioned abysmal defense. One performance does not a QB make.
This is just going to turn into another big armed idiot from an OSU vs. a small armed, scrappy local product debate all over again. The only problem is the draft places are reversed, now the big armed Retard fuck is a first rounder and the other guy is a late rounder (or UDFA, the latest rounder possible).
People seem ready to crown him after one performance. And yes, other people seemed ready to dismiss him after zero performances, I understand that.
Im saying I don't expect a hell of a lot from him but I sure as hell enjoyed watching him and I will be rooting for him until the end, whether it's next week or 10 years from now.
Just stop it with the Brady, Brees, Rodgers comparisons. It's way too early to tell.
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Wow, some of us can't stand success, no matter how small.
No. It's that most of us get all worked up over one performance, one call, one play, one whatever and then extrapolate times a million.
Yes, Hoyer played decent. Yes, he looked poised and made mostly good decisions. Yes, he seems to have a certain je ne sais quoi, or at least, he did against Minnesota's abysmal defense.
But he certainly made mistakes. Against the aforementioned abysmal defense. One performance does not a QB make.
This is just going to turn into another big armed idiot from an OSU vs. a small armed, scrappy local product debate all over again. The only problem is the draft places are reversed, now the big armed Retard fuck is a first rounder and the other guy is a late rounder (or UDFA, the latest rounder possible).
People seem ready to crown him after one performance. And yes, other people seemed ready to dismiss him after zero performances, I understand that.
Im saying I don't expect a hell of a lot from him but I sure as hell enjoyed watching him and I will be rooting for him until the end, whether it's next week or 10 years from now.
Just stop it with the Brady, Brees, Rodgers comparisons. It's way too early to tell.
No. It's that most of us get all worked up over one performance, one call, one play, one whatever and then extrapolate times a million.
Yes, Hoyer played decent. Yes, he looked poised and made mostly good decisions. Yes, he seems to have a certain je ne sais quoi, or at least, he did against Minnesota's abysmal defense.
But he certainly made mistakes. Against the aforementioned abysmal defense. One performance does not a QB make.
This is just going to turn into another big armed idiot from an OSU vs. a small armed, scrappy local product debate all over again. The only problem is the draft places are reversed, now the big armed Retard fuck is a first rounder and the other guy is a late rounder (or UDFA, the latest rounder possible).
People seem ready to crown him after one performance. And yes, other people seemed ready to dismiss him after zero performances, I understand that.
Im saying I don't expect a hell of a lot from him but I sure as hell enjoyed watching him and I will be rooting for him until the end, whether it's next week or 10 years from now.
Just stop it with the Brady, Brees, Rodgers comparisons. It's way too early to tell.
I think people get understandably excited when guys like Phil Simms among many others say he's the best QB they've seen in practice that hasn't had a chance yet, and then all the anecdotes talking about how he had more accuracy than Tom Brady in camp and all this other stuff (like him beating out weeden and campbell on some drill I don't remember what it was).
We'll see, I hope he's the one.
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