TRICH traded to colts
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Whatever, the tape speaks for itself.
PG, I was in the middle of a long reply (that blew up when I deleted the wrong tab) but the tape does speak for itself. I don't have time to re do the specifics, but head over to Pro-Football-Reference, look up how Richardson stacks up against the rest of NFL running backs- and it isn't pretty. The only thing he was in top 10 last year is scoring. His YPC and total yards were AVERAGE. We'll wait until the end of the year to see how this turns out- but right now, the Colts just goat a very expensive goal line\ third down back.
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Whatever, the tape speaks for itself.
PG, I was in the middle of a long reply (that blew up when I deleted the wrong tab) but the tape does speak for itself. I don't have time to re do the specifics, but head over to Pro-Football-Reference, look up how Richardson stacks up against the rest of NFL running backs- and it isn't pretty. The only thing he was in top 10 last year is scoring. His YPC and total yards were AVERAGE. We'll wait until the end of the year to see how this turns out- but right now, the Colts just goat a very expensive goal line\ third down back.
PG, I was in the middle of a long reply (that blew up when I deleted the wrong tab) but the tape does speak for itself. I don't have time to re do the specifics, but head over to Pro-Football-Reference, look up how Richardson stacks up against the rest of NFL running backs- and it isn't pretty. The only thing he was in top 10 last year is scoring. His YPC and total yards were AVERAGE. We'll wait until the end of the year to see how this turns out- but right now, the Colts just goat a very expensive goal line\ third down back.
Freudian slip?
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PG, I was in the middle of a long reply (that blew up when I deleted the wrong tab) but the tape does speak for itself. I don't have time to re do the specifics, but head over to Pro-Football-Reference, look up how Richardson stacks up against the rest of NFL running backs- and it isn't pretty. The only thing he was in top 10 last year is scoring. His YPC and total yards were AVERAGE. We'll wait until the end of the year to see how this turns out- but right now, the Colts just goat a very expensive goal line\ third down back.
Freudian slip?
Freudian slip?
Well, spell check misses when you type a real word. Is a goat that goes baaaahhh, baaaah, or is it a sheep? If we got the Colt's goat on that one, we can be pleased.
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August 12, 2012...
When the Cleveland Browns drafted Trent Richardson, they did so with an eye toward the past and the future.
Since Cleveland returned to the NFL from its hiatus in 1999, the absence of a franchise quarterback has doomed the Browns. The persistent inability to pound the ball against opponents hasn't helped.
The Browns have chewed up 16 starting quarterbacks in 13 seasons. Most were a disaster, but even the best among them were doomed by a weak-sister running game. The Browns have finished an average of 26th in the NFL in rushing since 1999. That's led to averaging 27th both in total yards and points scored during this dark stretch.
Assuming Richardson's knee heals up, Brandon Weeden has something everyone from Tim Couch to Colt McCoy lacked: A potentially elite back who can keep defenses honest and take the heat off a developing signal-caller.
The roots of Cleveland's West Coast offense conjure images of a precision passing game, but Browns president Mike Holmgren knows that's not the entire story.
In Holmgren's first two trips to the Super Bowl with the Green Bay Packers in 1996 and 1997, he relied on running backs Edgar Bennett and Dorsey Levens to balance out Brett Favre and the pass. Holmgren returned to the Super Bowl in 2005 with the Seattle Seahawks, but they wouldn't have come close without Shaun Alexander's outrageous 1,880 yards and 27 touchdowns on the ground.
These are the roots behind Cleveland trading up to secure Richardson with the third-overall pick in April's draft.
The Browns are counting on the former Alabama star to give the team some long-lost identity. No player has led the team in rushing more than two seasons in a row since bulldozer Kevin Mack did it between 1990 and 1992. The in-between has been a horror show.
The hope in Cleveland is that Richardson -- who will be featured in our upcoming video series, "Everything to Prove," which debuts Aug. 15 -- will return with a steel-strong knee and a fire in the belly to help alter the balance of the AFC North.
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August 12, 2012...
When the Cleveland Browns drafted Trent Richardson, they did so with an eye toward the past and the future.
Since Cleveland returned to the NFL from its hiatus in 1999, the absence of a franchise quarterback has doomed the Browns. The persistent inability to pound the ball against opponents hasn't helped.
The Browns have chewed up 16 starting quarterbacks in 13 seasons. Most were a disaster, but even the best among them were doomed by a weak-sister running game. The Browns have finished an average of 26th in the NFL in rushing since 1999. That's led to averaging 27th both in total yards and points scored during this dark stretch.
Assuming Richardson's knee heals up, Brandon Weeden has something everyone from Tim Couch to Colt McCoy lacked: A potentially elite back who can keep defenses honest and take the heat off a developing signal-caller.
The roots of Cleveland's West Coast offense conjure images of a precision passing game, but Browns president Mike Holmgren knows that's not the entire story.
In Holmgren's first two trips to the Super Bowl with the Green Bay Packers in 1996 and 1997, he relied on running backs Edgar Bennett and Dorsey Levens to balance out Brett Favre and the pass. Holmgren returned to the Super Bowl in 2005 with the Seattle Seahawks, but they wouldn't have come close without Shaun Alexander's outrageous 1,880 yards and 27 touchdowns on the ground.
These are the roots behind Cleveland trading up to secure Richardson with the third-overall pick in April's draft.
The Browns are counting on the former Alabama star to give the team some long-lost identity. No player has led the team in rushing more than two seasons in a row since bulldozer Kevin Mack did it between 1990 and 1992. The in-between has been a horror show.
The hope in Cleveland is that Richardson -- who will be featured in our upcoming video series, "Everything to Prove," which debuts Aug. 15 -- will return with a steel-strong knee and a fire in the belly to help alter the balance of the AFC North.
August 12, 2012...
The hope in Cleveland is that Richardson -- who will be featured in our upcoming video series, "Everything to Prove," which debuts Aug. 15 -- will return with a steel-strong knee and a fire in the belly to help alter the balance of the AFC North.
Richardson's steel strong knee is averaging a whopping 3.1 ypc this year. Wow. Lesean McCoy is almost averaging as much yardage PER GAME than Richardson has totaled the entire 2013 season.
There's a reason Haslam fired Holmgren and Heckert- Trent Richardson would be exhibit 1A. Remains to be seen if Weeden is 1B. Obviously Banner, Lombo, and Chudd thought Richardson was expendable- and his career stats back that up.
When you going to get it- you DON'T need to draft a running back high in the first round anymore. Alfred Morris (sixth round) and Arian Foster (UFA) have outperformed the mighty Trent.
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Arian Foster... 3.7 YPC
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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When all is said and done, these teams with great RBs are not winning championships. Most of them are terrible.
RB is a dime a dozen, don't spend big picks position.
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When all is said and done, these teams with great RBs are not winning championships. Most of them are terrible.
RB is a dime a dozen, don't spend big picks position.
When all is said and done, these teams with great RBs are not winning championships. Most of them are terrible.
RB is a dime a dozen, don't spend big picks position.
PG needs a trip down Memory Lane. Shall we look at the top 5 Running backs of ALL Time +1? That would be Emmit Smith, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Curtis Martin, Ladanian Tomlinson, and Jim Brown. Smith was blessed to have Troy Aikman and Michael Irving along for the ride. The other five? Two rings among them. Soooooo.... the odds are stacked against Richardson, or the far, far superior Adrian Peterson ever winning multiple rings- unless Luck turns into the next Joe Montana, and Reggie Wayne can play at a high level until he's 45.
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When all is said and done, these teams with great RBs are not winning championships. Most of them are terrible.
RB is a dime a dozen, don't spend big picks position.
When all is said and done, these teams with great RBs are not winning championships. Most of them are terrible.
RB is a dime a dozen, don't spend big picks position.
wrongo.
strong up and down the middle on both sides of the ball wins championships. fucking assholes that still believe that you can have an average defense and still win cuz you got kurt warner and some doncoryell offense.
GTFO chump.
guess you didn't see the niner game tonight when frank FUCKING gore led them to victory.
go back to playing madden and you pretending to be peyton manning.
douchebag.
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When all is said and done, these teams with great RBs are not winning championships. Most of them are terrible.
RB is a dime a dozen, don't spend big picks position.
wrongo.
strong up and down the middle on both sides of the ball wins championships. fucking assholes that still believe that you can have an average defense and still win cuz you got kurt warner and some doncoryell offense.
GTFO chump.
guess you didn't see the niner game tonight when frank FUCKING gore led them to victory.
go back to playing madden and you pretending to be peyton manning.
douchebag.
wrongo.
strong up and down the middle on both sides of the ball wins championships. fucking assholes that still believe that you can have an average defense and still win cuz you got kurt warner and some doncoryell offense.
GTFO chump.
guess you didn't see the niner game tonight when frank FUCKING gore led them to victory.
go back to playing madden and you pretending to be peyton manning.
douchebag.
No one is saying you can have a crap running game and win championships, though it's been done in recent years. Frank Gore, third round 65th overall- doh.
THAT'S what I'm trying to get through PG's thick skull, unless you see the reincarnation of Jim Brown (and I'm on record I didn't see that in Richardson) .there is no reason, nada, none, zilch to ever draft a running back in the Top 10 anymore. Freaking history proves it in spades- unless you have the super stud qb to go along with the super stud RB, you're doomed to come up a notch or two short of a Lombardi Trophy.
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wrongo.
strong up and down the middle on both sides of the ball wins championships. fucking assholes that still believe that you can have an average defense and still win cuz you got kurt warner and some doncoryell offense.
GTFO chump.
guess you didn't see the niner game tonight when frank FUCKING gore led them to victory.
go back to playing madden and you pretending to be peyton manning.
douchebag.
No one is saying you can have a crap running game and win championships, though it's been done in recent years. Frank Gore, third round 65th overall- doh.
THAT'S what I'm trying to get through PG's thick skull, unless you see the reincarnation of Jim Brown (and I'm on record I didn't see that in Richardson) .there is no reason, nada, none, zilch to ever draft a running back in the Top 10 anymore. Freaking history proves it in spades- unless you have the super stud qb to go along with the super stud RB, you're doomed to come up a notch or two short of a Lombardi Trophy.
No one is saying you can have a crap running game and win championships, though it's been done in recent years. Frank Gore, third round 65th overall- doh.
THAT'S what I'm trying to get through PG's thick skull, unless you see the reincarnation of Jim Brown (and I'm on record I didn't see that in Richardson) .there is no reason, nada, none, zilch to ever draft a running back in the Top 10 anymore. Freaking history proves it in spades- unless you have the super stud qb to go along with the super stud RB, you're doomed to come up a notch or two short of a Lombardi Trophy.
i know, but you as well as i know that that is a lost cause.
AP is prob the best running back in the game but with a shit team around him (OLine, no QB, no defense) it means absolutely nothing.
so before we go throwing TR on the fire let's think about what else was there for him to succeed.
all i'm saying.
a lot will be proven this week.
it might be shocking to some, even me, given the outcome.
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When all is said and done, these teams with great RBs are not winning championships. Most of them are terrible.
RB is a dime a dozen, don't spend big picks position.
wrongo.
strong up and down the middle on both sides of the ball wins championships. fucking assholes that still believe that you can have an average defense and still win cuz you got kurt warner and some doncoryell offense.
GTFO chump.
guess you didn't see the niner game tonight when frank FUCKING gore led them to victory.
go back to playing madden and you pretending to be peyton manning.
douchebag.
first off your a hypocritical immature bitch. You talk about people being bullies on here and you're an asshole yourself.wrongo.
strong up and down the middle on both sides of the ball wins championships. fucking assholes that still believe that you can have an average defense and still win cuz you got kurt warner and some doncoryell offense.
GTFO chump.
guess you didn't see the niner game tonight when frank FUCKING gore led them to victory.
go back to playing madden and you pretending to be peyton manning.
douchebag.
second you're an idiot. You take one example to make your point. Where was AP when he played the Browns? The best RB in the league. Hows the eagles doing with the leading rusher? Fuck you.
no shit you need balance. The point is RB is a dime a dozen position that isn't as important as it was back in the day.
you old douchebag.
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Nobody WANTS to have a shit running game. But in the five years prior to the last, 4 of the 10 Super Bowl teams finished 30th or lower in rushing. Two actually finished dead last. Might be three, actually.
Adrian Peterson, Steven Jackson, Taylor/MJD for the Jags, Chris Johnson... not one Super Bowl. For five years, the Super Bowl didn't even feature a 1,000 yard back, amazingly. To argue that having a top running back correlates with winning is nonsense.
And there's no point in discussing the league prior to the Ty Law Rules and those that followed, so you're looking at 2002, or something like the last 11 seasons. And over those 11 years, the RB position has become more and more diminished as it became quite undeniably a passing league. This year has taken it to another level.
SF is gonna try to run (and defend) to win, but at some point Kaep is gonna have to carry them through the playoffs and to a championship because that's how it works every year (even if the guy was so-so during the season, like Eli or Flacco but more likely Rodgers or Brees, who were already great).
Nobody WANTS to suck at running because it makes it imperative that you're pretty amazing at passing and pass protection, likely possessing one of those top 5-7 passers. But it's been done (a lot). The reverse, winning without great quarterback play? Nope. It's not a reality in this post 2002 era. Old news.
And Toxic, while defense gets more important in the playoffs, some pretty lame defenses have been playing in Super Bowls over the past decade. Last year stopped that trend, but this regular season has been about really gaudy offensive numbers for the most part... and record settingly bad defense.
If you really think winning and losing is about what's "up the middle," you need to get a TV or something. The league is now about passing to take a lead and rushing the other team's passer. Has been for several years now.
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Nobody WANTS to have a shit running game. But in the five years prior to the last, 4 of the 10 Super Bowl teams finished 30th or lower in rushing. Two actually finished dead last. Might be three, actually.
Adrian Peterson, Steven Jackson, Taylor/MJD for the Jags, Chris Johnson... not one Super Bowl. For five years, the Super Bowl didn't even feature a 1,000 yard back, amazingly. To argue that having a top running back correlates with winning is nonsense.
And there's no point in discussing the league prior to the Ty Law Rules and those that followed, so you're looking at 2002, or something like the last 11 seasons. And over those 11 years, the RB position has become more and more diminished as it became quite undeniably a passing league. This year has taken it to another level.
SF is gonna try to run (and defend) to win, but at some point Kaep is gonna have to carry them through the playoffs and to a championship because that's how it works every year (even if the guy was so-so during the season, like Eli or Flacco but more likely Rodgers or Brees, who were already great).
Nobody WANTS to suck at running because it makes it imperative that you're pretty amazing at passing and pass protection, likely possessing one of those top 5-7 passers. But it's been done (a lot). The reverse, winning without great quarterback play? Nope. It's not a reality in this post 2002 era. Old news.
And Toxic, while defense gets more important in the playoffs, some pretty lame defenses have been playing in Super Bowls over the past decade. Last year stopped that trend, but this regular season has been about really gaudy offensive numbers for the most part... and record settingly bad defense.
If you really think winning and losing is about what's "up the middle," you need to get a TV or something. The league is now about passing to take a lead and rushing the other team's passer. Has been for several years now.
Nobody WANTS to have a shit running game. But in the five years prior to the last, 4 of the 10 Super Bowl teams finished 30th or lower in rushing. Two actually finished dead last. Might be three, actually.
Adrian Peterson, Steven Jackson, Taylor/MJD for the Jags, Chris Johnson... not one Super Bowl. For five years, the Super Bowl didn't even feature a 1,000 yard back, amazingly. To argue that having a top running back correlates with winning is nonsense.
And there's no point in discussing the league prior to the Ty Law Rules and those that followed, so you're looking at 2002, or something like the last 11 seasons. And over those 11 years, the RB position has become more and more diminished as it became quite undeniably a passing league. This year has taken it to another level.
SF is gonna try to run (and defend) to win, but at some point Kaep is gonna have to carry them through the playoffs and to a championship because that's how it works every year (even if the guy was so-so during the season, like Eli or Flacco but more likely Rodgers or Brees, who were already great).
Nobody WANTS to suck at running because it makes it imperative that you're pretty amazing at passing and pass protection, likely possessing one of those top 5-7 passers. But it's been done (a lot). The reverse, winning without great quarterback play? Nope. It's not a reality in this post 2002 era. Old news.
And Toxic, while defense gets more important in the playoffs, some pretty lame defenses have been playing in Super Bowls over the past decade. Last year stopped that trend, but this regular season has been about really gaudy offensive numbers for the most part... and record settingly bad defense.
If you really think winning and losing is about what's "up the middle," you need to get a TV or something. The league is now about passing to take a lead and rushing the other team's passer. Has been for several years now.
yep, you're so right.
that's why OC's call 2 running plays per every one pass.
why is that, i wonder? maybe to soften up the D and make them stack the box to make THE ALL MIGHTY GOD PASSING game easier? duh.
between you and usfbrownsfag you know about smash mouth football like your granny knows about wearing panties.
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Nobody WANTS to have a shit running game. But in the five years prior to the last, 4 of the 10 Super Bowl teams finished 30th or lower in rushing. Two actually finished dead last. Might be three, actually.
Adrian Peterson, Steven Jackson, Taylor/MJD for the Jags, Chris Johnson... not one Super Bowl. For five years, the Super Bowl didn't even feature a 1,000 yard back, amazingly. To argue that having a top running back correlates with winning is nonsense.
And there's no point in discussing the league prior to the Ty Law Rules and those that followed, so you're looking at 2002, or something like the last 11 seasons. And over those 11 years, the RB position has become more and more diminished as it became quite undeniably a passing league. This year has taken it to another level.
SF is gonna try to run (and defend) to win, but at some point Kaep is gonna have to carry them through the playoffs and to a championship because that's how it works every year (even if the guy was so-so during the season, like Eli or Flacco but more likely Rodgers or Brees, who were already great).
Nobody WANTS to suck at running because it makes it imperative that you're pretty amazing at passing and pass protection, likely possessing one of those top 5-7 passers. But it's been done (a lot). The reverse, winning without great quarterback play? Nope. It's not a reality in this post 2002 era. Old news.
And Toxic, while defense gets more important in the playoffs, some pretty lame defenses have been playing in Super Bowls over the past decade. Last year stopped that trend, but this regular season has been about really gaudy offensive numbers for the most part... and record settingly bad defense.
If you really think winning and losing is about what's "up the middle," you need to get a TV or something. The league is now about passing to take a lead and rushing the other team's passer. Has been for several years now.
yep, you're so right.
that's why OC's call 2 running plays per every one pass.
why is that, i wonder? maybe to soften up the D and make them stack the box to make THE ALL MIGHTY GOD PASSING game easier? duh.
between you and usfbrownsfag you know about smash mouth football like your granny knows about wearing panties.
Once again, don't let facts get in the way of your stupid opinion.yep, you're so right.
that's why OC's call 2 running plays per every one pass.
why is that, i wonder? maybe to soften up the D and make them stack the box to make THE ALL MIGHTY GOD PASSING game easier? duh.
between you and usfbrownsfag you know about smash mouth football like your granny knows about wearing panties.
The game has passed you by old fart. Smash mouth football doesn't win championships now.
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Once again, don't let facts get in the way of your stupid opinion.yep, you're so right.
that's why OC's call 2 running plays per every one pass.
why is that, i wonder? maybe to soften up the D and make them stack the box to make THE ALL MIGHTY GOD PASSING game easier? duh.
between you and usfbrownsfag you know about smash mouth football like your granny knows about wearing panties.
The game has passed you by old fart. Smash mouth football doesn't win championships now.
Once again, don't let facts get in the way of your stupid opinion.
The game has passed you by old fart. Smash mouth football doesn't win championships now.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
guess you didn't see the post game interview with kaepernik or gore after the game last night, or have a TV (shep) that every ex football great talks about how the games are won by one team's dominance over the other's on the lines.
faggot.
BTW this old fart would knock you out. smash mouth football? let me hit you in the ribs 6 times and see how long it takes for your arms to drop.
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Once again, don't let facts get in the way of your stupid opinion.yep, you're so right.
that's why OC's call 2 running plays per every one pass.
why is that, i wonder? maybe to soften up the D and make them stack the box to make THE ALL MIGHTY GOD PASSING game easier? duh.
between you and usfbrownsfag you know about smash mouth football like your granny knows about wearing panties.
The game has passed you by old fart. Smash mouth football doesn't win championships now.
Oh, thank God. Because only 3 of the 32 teams run as much as they pass. A handful are passing more than 70% of the time. And as far as first halves, I'm thinking all 32 pass more than they run but I'd have to ask PFF.
Again, Tox: The average ranking of the 10 Super Bowl teams before last year... was 23rd. And those 4 teams ranked under 30? Two won and the other two, ranked dead last, damn near won (Colts and Cards).
There is reality. Don't let politics make you think it's all a matter of opinion. These are just the facts.
Once again, don't let facts get in the way of your stupid opinion.
The game has passed you by old fart. Smash mouth football doesn't win championships now.
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