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Do We Take QB #1 If Hoyer Goes 8-8?

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  • letsgojacketsL letsgojackets

    Go away.

    Soju SojuS
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    SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
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    @letsgojackets said:

    Go away.

    this is a legitamate question you faggot.

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    • Hunt Daddy H
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      H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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      They'll still draft a QB and use Hoyer as a mentor for the rookie

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      • SojuS Soju

        @letsgojackets said:

        Go away.

        this is a legitamate question you faggot.

        letsgojackets letsgojacketsL
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        letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on last edited by
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        @soju said:

        this is a legitamate question you faggot.

        Nobody likes you. Just leave nobody is backing you up. Browns win and you're being a tard. Go away.

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        • H Hunt Daddy

          They'll still draft a QB and use Hoyer as a mentor for the rookie

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          SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
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          @hunt-daddy said:

          They'll still draft a QB and use Hoyer as a mentor for the rookie

          I don't know about that, it depends what qbs are there when we pick at around 14

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          • letsgojacketsL letsgojackets

            @soju said:

            this is a legitamate question you faggot.

            Nobody likes you. Just leave nobody is backing you up. Browns win and you're being a tard. Go away.

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            SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by Soju
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            @letsgojackets said:

            Nobody likes you. Just leave nobody is backing you up. Browns win and you're being a tard. Go away.

            nobody (a bunch of strangers on the internet) likes me? Should I go grab my pillow and cry now? Like I give a fuck.

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            • flyingfooldoug flyingfooldougF One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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              flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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              One real big difference is the amount of talent we have now compared to the past. Savage and crennel really screwed us talent wise. Heckert did bring in some pretty good players and left this new FO in much better shape than when he took over. With better players any QB has a much better chance to succeed here now. But they have to have some talent and Hoyer seems to have some. Just hope for the best and be happy that we are the only winners in the AFCN today

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              • SojuS Soju

                @letsgojackets said:

                Nobody likes you. Just leave nobody is backing you up. Browns win and you're being a tard. Go away.

                nobody (a bunch of strangers on the internet) likes me? Should I go grab my pillow and cry now? Like I give a fuck.

                letsgojackets letsgojacketsL
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                letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on last edited by
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                @soju said:

                nobody (a bunch of strangers on the internet) likes me? Should I go grab my pillow and cry now? Like I give a fuck.

                Ok?

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                • dab7291993 D
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                  D dab7291993 wrote on last edited by
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                  I say we draft a QB regardless. We may not trade up for one, but we probably draft one.

                  I just hope to whatever God it isn't Manziel.

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                  • miktoxic miktoxicM
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                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                    fuck no. no QB. no trades.

                    how about some OL that can actually play? how about another receiver? another CB?

                    we beat a legit team and you ask a question like that?

                    8 and 8 is a blessing since '99. i don't count the DA fluke.

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                    • miktoxicM miktoxic

                      fuck no. no QB. no trades.

                      how about some OL that can actually play? how about another receiver? another CB?

                      we beat a legit team and you ask a question like that?

                      8 and 8 is a blessing since '99. i don't count the DA fluke.

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                      letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on last edited by
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                      @miktoxic said:

                      fuck no. no QB. no trades.

                      how about some OL that can actually play? how about another receiver? another CB?

                      we beat a legit team and you ask a question like that?

                      8 and 8 is a blessing since '99. i don't count the DA fluke.

                      My man!!!

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                      • USFBrown USFBrownU Conversation Starter Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                        USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                        Agreed. Cb/OL maybe are larger needs in my opinion. This is a deep QB draft and we could get a decent, maybe even a project QB, in later rounds.

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                          D dab7291993 wrote on last edited by
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                          If we're 8-8 we're either in the playoffs or just outside of it, so I say we're picking 20th-22nd, along with the Indy pick being probably 24-26.

                          Really no QB's available.

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                            If we're 8-8 we're either in the playoffs or just outside of it, so I say we're picking 20th-22nd, along with the Indy pick being probably 24-26.

                            Really no QB's available.

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                            letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on last edited by
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                            @dab7291993 said:

                            If we're 8-8 we're either in the playoffs or just outside of it, so I say we're picking 20th-22nd, along with the Indy pick being probably 24-26.

                            Really no QB's available.

                            You missed it. we're going to the Super Bowl.

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                              D dab7291993 wrote on last edited by
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                              No one is saying that.

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                              • letsgojackets letsgojacketsL
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                                letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on last edited by
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                                i just did. We got a win today fellas be happy. We don't need no stinking QB did you see Hoyer today? I'll take that everyday of the week. Call me a homer.

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                                • letsgojacketsL letsgojackets

                                  i just did. We got a win today fellas be happy. We don't need no stinking QB did you see Hoyer today? I'll take that everyday of the week. Call me a homer.

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                                  flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                                  @letsgojackets said:

                                  i just did. We got a win today fellas be happy. We don't need no stinking QB did you see Hoyer today? I'll take that everyday of the week. Call me a homer.

                                  Nothing wrong with being a homer. It is nice to have depth at QB too.

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                                  • Erie Dawg Erie DawgE
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                                    Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                    Its simple I'll tell ya after week 17 or the playoffs.

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                                    • SojuS Soju

                                      What record does Hoyer have to go (because he will be starting for the rest of season) for you to draft a QB with the first pick?

                                      This always happens though, we are destined for a bad season, get a qb in there, usually a back up, that tears it up, think we have soneone special, then sucks ever year after and we lose out on drafting a franchise QB.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      @soju said:

                                      What record does Hoyer have to go (because he will be starting for the rest of season) for you to draft a QB with the first pick?

                                      This always happens though, we are destined for a bad season, get a qb in there, usually a back up, that tears it up, think we have soneone special, then sucks ever year after and we lose out on drafting a franchise QB.

                                      Yes, the question is legitimate, but then you had to add the negative shit... which I'll ignore...

                                      It depends on:

                                      - what role Hoyer plays in getting us to whatever our final record ends up being... I'm still stricking with my 6 - 10 projection for now... and his continued starting is still not a given...

                                      - the final draft order, us and Indy... who is looking better than I thought they would...

                                      - the QBs I love and the ones I like...

                                      The key is if I love/ like a QB that is there when my next pick is up and I do not believe he will be there when my following pick occurs... then I take him.

                                      It matters not when what round the to which you apply the above.. 1st... 5th... 7th...

                                      but in the 1st you better be drafting your eventual starter.

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                                      • SojuS Soju

                                        What record does Hoyer have to go (because he will be starting for the rest of season) for you to draft a QB with the first pick?

                                        This always happens though, we are destined for a bad season, get a qb in there, usually a back up, that tears it up, think we have soneone special, then sucks ever year after and we lose out on drafting a franchise QB.

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                                        OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @soju said:

                                        What record does Hoyer have to go (because he will be starting for the rest of season) for you to draft a QB with the first pick?

                                        This always happens though, we are destined for a bad season, get a qb in there, usually a back up, that tears it up, think we have soneone special, then sucks ever year after and we lose out on drafting a franchise QB.

                                        If Hoyer keeps playing this well, I'd say he's earned the starting QB position for next year. Better to focus on shoring up other parts of the offense: OL, WR, RB first, and any remaining holes on defense second. I'd say it also comes down trying to evaluate the draft class for the year after next.

                                        If Hoyer plays well for the rest of the year, and the 2015 draft class looks like it will be deep at QB, then I'd skip drafting a QB for 2014. If Hoyer doesn't pan out for the rest of the season (but I think he will), or if he does pan out but the 2015 draft class doesn't look like it will be deep at QB, I'd draft a QB in 2014, let him sit and learn behind Hoyer. If you end up with two good QBs, that's a nice problem to have, maybe get you some nice draft picks in a trade for one of them.

                                        "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                                          D dab7291993 wrote on last edited by
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                                          I would definitely draft a QB in 3rd or 4th round next year if we don't go for one in the 1st. Kirk Cousins and Nick Foles-caliber QB's would be nice assets.

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