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Hoyer named even though Weeden cleared to play...hmmmm

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  • Bammer BammerB
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    BammerB Bammer wrote on last edited by
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    Weeden will be on the street looking for a job by friday !~

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      I don't wish any ill will toward Weeden. They will probably keep him as backup at least until the end of the season.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        It does make sense, the reason they've given, that it's a short week.

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          djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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          2-0 with Hoyer. It has to suck to lose the starting job because of injury, however; you have to go with the hot hand. Hoyer has good command in the huddle, and makes good decisions. Weeden may be strong armed, but has no touch on the ball at all! Before anyone says that Weeden didn't have the benefit of Josh Gordon for the first 2 games, well... he had him all last year, and didn't do shit!

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            2-0 with Hoyer. It has to suck to lose the starting job because of injury, however; you have to go with the hot hand. Hoyer has good command in the huddle, and makes good decisions. Weeden may be strong armed, but has no touch on the ball at all! Before anyone says that Weeden didn't have the benefit of Josh Gordon for the first 2 games, well... he had him all last year, and didn't do shit!

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @djdawg2010 said:

            2-0 with Hoyer. It has to suck to lose the starting job because of injury, however; you have to go with the hot hand. Hoyer has good command in the huddle, and makes good decisions. Weeden may be strong armed, but has no touch on the ball at all! Before anyone says that Weeden didn't have the benefit of Josh Gordon for the first 2 games, well... he had him all last year, and didn't do shit!

            Looks like the players are behind him as well:

            “I call Hoyer the Hometown Hero. I’m going to start that campaign pretty soon here.” - Phil Taylor

            Great story for Hoyer, but you have to wonder what's going through Weeden's head. Clearly a talented athlete, but failed at baseball, and now it looks like he's failing at football. I feel for the guy because he seems genuinely nice.

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              2-0 with Hoyer. It has to suck to lose the starting job because of injury, however; you have to go with the hot hand. Hoyer has good command in the huddle, and makes good decisions. Weeden may be strong armed, but has no touch on the ball at all! Before anyone says that Weeden didn't have the benefit of Josh Gordon for the first 2 games, well... he had him all last year, and didn't do shit!

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              flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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              @djdawg2010 said:

              2-0 with Hoyer. It has to suck to lose the starting job because of injury, however; you have to go with the hot hand. Hoyer has good command in the huddle, and makes good decisions. Weeden may be strong armed, but has no touch on the ball at all! Before anyone says that Weeden didn't have the benefit of Josh Gordon for the first 2 games, well... he had him all last year, and didn't do shit!

              I'm hoping that with a little time that Weeden can progress at his game. Drafted and thrown to the wolves is not the best way to learn...at least in my book. Maybe he can learn and become a much better qb for some bench time.

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                @djdawg2010 said:

                2-0 with Hoyer. It has to suck to lose the starting job because of injury, however; you have to go with the hot hand. Hoyer has good command in the huddle, and makes good decisions. Weeden may be strong armed, but has no touch on the ball at all! Before anyone says that Weeden didn't have the benefit of Josh Gordon for the first 2 games, well... he had him all last year, and didn't do shit!

                Looks like the players are behind him as well:

                “I call Hoyer the Hometown Hero. I’m going to start that campaign pretty soon here.” - Phil Taylor

                Great story for Hoyer, but you have to wonder what's going through Weeden's head. Clearly a talented athlete, but failed at baseball, and now it looks like he's failing at football. I feel for the guy because he seems genuinely nice.

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                djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                @gftchris said:

                Looks like the players are behind him as well:

                Great story for Hoyer, but you have to wonder what's going through Weeden's head. Clearly a talented athlete, but failed at baseball, and now it looks like he's failing at football. I feel for the guy because he seems genuinely nice.

                I can understand that. I don't hate Weeden as a person. I mean, he probably is a nice guy, but from a football perspective drafting him in the 1st round was a reach. It's probably a big reason as to why Jimmy Haslam punched Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert's tickets out of town!

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                  @gftchris said:

                  Looks like the players are behind him as well:

                  Great story for Hoyer, but you have to wonder what's going through Weeden's head. Clearly a talented athlete, but failed at baseball, and now it looks like he's failing at football. I feel for the guy because he seems genuinely nice.

                  I can understand that. I don't hate Weeden as a person. I mean, he probably is a nice guy, but from a football perspective drafting him in the 1st round was a reach. It's probably a big reason as to why Jimmy Haslam punched Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert's tickets out of town!

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @djdawg2010 said:

                  I can understand that. I don't hate Weeden as a person. I mean, he probably is a nice guy, but from a football perspective drafting him in the 1st round was a reach. It's probably a big reason as to why Jimmy Haslam punched Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert's tickets out of town!

                  Yep, I doubt anyone would have taken him between out 22 and 37 last year, would could have waited to take him, no doubt. Then he's not a first rounder, not under instant pressure to rescue the franchise, Colt McCoy gets to play on etc. But then if we're redoing the draft, we take Russell Wilson (or Kirk Cousins) in the third, and then (someone else) with the second first. But hey, hindsight is perfect 🙂

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                    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                    U tellin me Jacksonville wouldn't pony up a 3rd or a 4th for him. My god gabbert may be the biggest bust all time

                    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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                      U tellin me Jacksonville wouldn't pony up a 3rd or a 4th for him. My god gabbert may be the biggest bust all time

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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      @cdl15 said:

                      U tellin me Jacksonville wouldn't pony up a 3rd or a 4th for him. My god gabbert may be the biggest bust all time

                      I think they have their eyes set firmly on the Bridgewater, or whoever they love in that draft. Maybe someone's desperate for Clowney and they actually pull off a huge trade and get a bunch of picks - either way, they're thinking what everyone else is, that this draft is loaded with potentially franchise QBs, they can pick one up wherever they end up, basically.

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                        Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                        Loaded with qb's yes, one maybe NfL ready, then all I see is alot of works in progress after that.

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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          Right, and what's Weeden if not a 30-year-old work in progress? If they want someone to act as the starter for a year or two, maybe they should try a Matt Cassel, or Josh Freeman, or someone who's at least shown an ability to win games in the past.

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                            Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                            Easy answer is front office and coaching ego's.

                            I thought weeds was a wasted pick. I supported him, but didn't like the selection. H&H's ego stood in the way and blew it.

                            The NFL wants its first RD. Selections to be game ready.

                            I don't know about you but I don't see the talent at a high level for this years QB class. Not trying to be pessimistic, just objective.

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                              S Shep wrote on last edited by
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                              It's a really, REALLY strong quarterback draft. Both at the top and in depth. "Works in progress?" You mean more than most guys who haven't played pro football? I'm gonna have to disagree. It's just a really good QB draft, period.

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                                Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                So you are saying after Bridgewater the talent level don't drop off?

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                                  jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                  I like Weeden. I think he still can become a good NFL starter. Having said that I can't make a case to take the ball from Hoyer. He looks great, nice touch, good location on longer passes and we are winning. I hope he keeps it going. The drive home from the game is always much shorter when we win lol.

                                  I would not be surprised if Weeden was a Titan or Jag by next week. He would probably a 3rd or 4th and he is not tied to the current regime.

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                                    I like Weeden. I think he still can become a good NFL starter. Having said that I can't make a case to take the ball from Hoyer. He looks great, nice touch, good location on longer passes and we are winning. I hope he keeps it going. The drive home from the game is always much shorter when we win lol.

                                    I would not be surprised if Weeden was a Titan or Jag by next week. He would probably a 3rd or 4th and he is not tied to the current regime.

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                                    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                                    @jcam222 said:

                                    I like Weeden. I think he still can become a good NFL starter. Having said that I can't make a case to take the ball from Hoyer. He looks great, nice touch, good location on longer passes and we are winning. I hope he keeps it going. The drive home from the game is always much shorter when we win lol.

                                    I would not be surprised if Weeden was a Titan or Jag by next week. He would probably a 3rd or 4th and he is not tied to the current regime.

                                    What about a stealer? I see they are screaming for bens head there.

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                                      @jcam222 said:

                                      I like Weeden. I think he still can become a good NFL starter. Having said that I can't make a case to take the ball from Hoyer. He looks great, nice touch, good location on longer passes and we are winning. I hope he keeps it going. The drive home from the game is always much shorter when we win lol.

                                      I would not be surprised if Weeden was a Titan or Jag by next week. He would probably a 3rd or 4th and he is not tied to the current regime.

                                      What about a stealer? I see they are screaming for bens head there.

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                                      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @flyingfooldoug said:

                                      What about a stealer? I see they are screaming for bens head there.

                                      Can't see it happening. They will dump Haley before they bench BR.

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                                        It does make sense, the reason they've given, that it's a short week.

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                                        flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        It does make sense, the reason they've given, that it's a short week.

                                        Sure but then if Hoyer does well again they keep starting him and name him so. They will have 10 days to get things smoothed over with Weeden and keep everybody happpy

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                                          S Shep wrote on last edited by
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                                          Bridgewater's the best, so technically yeah, there's a dropoff. That's true whenever there's a consensus #1 (which I believe there is this year)... but I also believe by the end of the year there could be 5 first round QBs who could be all be better prospects than E.J. Manuel: Bridgewater, Hundley, and Boyd for sure. If Mariota comes out, I'd say that's four. Manziel is right there. And then there's Fales, Carr, and Stephen Morris, who could all go in round 2. One might even rise to late round 1 (in the traditional trade-up).

                                          So yeah, Bridgewater is #1 (overall)... but it's a really good year to draft a quarterback.

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