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  • Ill be the hometown huckleberry. Add Luavo and Pinkston back and we are the best football team in the division IF Hoyer keeps playing at this level. If stats on paper translated into wins and losses I'd be a millionaire thanks to Vegas. This team is all of a sudden showing the intangible "IT' factor.

  • Ill be the hometown huckleberry. Add Luavo and Pinkston back and we are the best football team in the division IF Hoyer keeps playing at this level. If stats on paper translated into wins and losses I'd be a millionaire thanks to Vegas. This team is all of a sudden showing the intangible "IT' factor.

    @jcam222 said:

    Ill be the hometown huckleberry. Add Luavo and Pinkston back and we are the best football team in the division IF Hoyer keeps playing at this level. If stats on paper translated into wins and losses I'd be a millionaire thanks to Vegas. This team is all of a sudden showing the intangible "IT' factor.

    Gawd but I hope you are right!

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    We have the talent to hang with anybody and, where we don't have the talent, the play calling can make up for it.

    NE went into Atl last night with a pair of third stringers at WR (Thomkins, Edelman). Not a big deal when you factor in a bellichik and a Brady. Bellichik continues to to get the best out of his players and Brady has a knack of getting his receivers to believe in themselves. this is another good example of coaching(Playcalling) and (QB's) being one of the major gaps between average teams and perennial winners. I am not sold on Turner by a long shot. His history with Rivers was not all that great and Rivers has actually improved since Turners departure from San Diego. The play calling in the 4th qtr yesterday was masterful. I have a hunch Chud had a lot of input. Hoyer showed poise. I see a lot of potential if this relationship continues to develop.

    @slowburn said:

    NE went into Atl last night with a pair of third stringers at WR (Thomkins, Edelman). Not a big deal when you factor in a bellichik and a Brady. Bellichik continues to to get the best out of his players and Brady has a knack of getting his receivers to believe in themselves. this is another good example of coaching(Playcalling) and (QB's) being one of the major gaps between average teams and perennial winners. I am not sold on Turner by a long shot. His history with Rivers was not all that great and Rivers has actually improved since Turners departure from San Diego. The play calling in the 4th qtr yesterday was masterful. I have a hunch Chud had a lot of input. Hoyer showed poise. I see a lot of potential if this relationship continues to develop.

    Turner is a very successful coordinator. When he's spread thin as HC, he's awful.

    I think he's great where he is, in the booth. He has a great football mind; scheming, spotting weaknesses, playcalling- he's great at all of it.

    When he's in charge of everything...not so much.

    I think the duo of Chud and Turner is as great as any in the league. Chud is the ballsy prodigal son returned who's brought back his NFL mentor to be his right hand man.

    I've never believed Rivers to be an upper echelon QB. He's a cocky, gunslinging risk taker like Favre but without the horseshoe lodged up his ass.

  • Sorry, but I think we sneaked up on them.

    Our D is faster they they were expecting...

    They were not prepared for Hoyer's poise...

    ... and, yes, we had a great game plan.

    Their fans came into our Forum over confidant... I think their team showed up over confident as well. The look on Dalton's face at game's end screamed befudlement... as pretty much did his play. Maybe it's a redhead thang..

  • Should have won by more. If our kicker is healthy, it's 23-6, which is more what the stats suggest. Browns seemed in control from the beginning. I never believed they would lose. Just looked like the better team.

    On the flip side, when all the Bengals love started, I immediately thought it was way over baked. They don't have a top 10 quarterback to that right there puts you in the second tier and out of Super Bowl talk. At least for me.

    I don't see them as some kind of juggernaut at all.

  • It sure would be sweet to give blowitmore a real run at the AFCN title. They are defending AFCN and SB champs and I want it to be the Browns that dethrones that flock. Gotta beat the champ to be the champ.

  • @shep said:

    By the way, Skrine leads the team with 7 PDs and is second with 19 solo tackles (DQJ, of course, has 22). Also has a pick. He's a keeper. I'd love to get a bigger #2 and move him into the slot but he might make it impossible to bench him pretty soon.

    Also the pass interference on him didn't look like a problem. The ball was under thrown and Skrine just happened to bump into the receiver as he stopped. Skrine has looked a lot better.

    @hunt-daddy said:

    Also the pass interference on him didn't look like a problem. The ball was under thrown and Skrine just happened to bump into the receiver as he stopped. Skrine has looked a lot better.

    meh.. Skrine has ball tracking problems (he's the DB version of MoMass) The PI could have been avoided had he just made a play on the ball instead of tripping over the WR.

    He's night & day better than last season though.

  • First... I think Skrine is vastly improved and still improving. I think he's a player.

    Second, on NFLN about an hour ago, Mike Silver was saying Andy Dalton just isn't good enough to take the Bengals all the way. Said even more troubling are the whispers that he isn't practicing well, either.

    I've said that from day one: He's okay. And that ain't okay.

  • @slowburn said:

    NE went into Atl last night with a pair of third stringers at WR (Thomkins, Edelman). Not a big deal when you factor in a bellichik and a Brady. Bellichik continues to to get the best out of his players and Brady has a knack of getting his receivers to believe in themselves. this is another good example of coaching(Playcalling) and (QB's) being one of the major gaps between average teams and perennial winners. I am not sold on Turner by a long shot. His history with Rivers was not all that great and Rivers has actually improved since Turners departure from San Diego. The play calling in the 4th qtr yesterday was masterful. I have a hunch Chud had a lot of input. Hoyer showed poise. I see a lot of potential if this relationship continues to develop.

    Turner is a very successful coordinator. When he's spread thin as HC, he's awful.

    I think he's great where he is, in the booth. He has a great football mind; scheming, spotting weaknesses, playcalling- he's great at all of it.

    When he's in charge of everything...not so much.

    I think the duo of Chud and Turner is as great as any in the league. Chud is the ballsy prodigal son returned who's brought back his NFL mentor to be his right hand man.

    I've never believed Rivers to be an upper echelon QB. He's a cocky, gunslinging risk taker like Favre but without the horseshoe lodged up his ass.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Turner is a very successful coordinator. When he's spread thin as HC, he's awful.

    I think he's great where he is, in the booth. He has a great football mind; scheming, spotting weaknesses, playcalling- he's great at all of it.

    When he's in charge of everything...not so much.

    I think the duo of Chud and Turner is as great as any in the league. Chud is the ballsy prodigal son returned who's brought back his NFL mentor to be his right hand man.

    I've never believed Rivers to be an upper echelon QB. He's a cocky, gunslinging risk taker like Favre but without the horseshoe lodged up his ass.

    Rivers has a ton of talent and is a smart kid...All he needs is to have his emotions kept in check and you can win with him..yet..I have reservations about his mental toughness at times...otherwise...he's a gifted QB...And Ive seen a whole slew of them in My 40+ years of watching the game.

  • @slowburn said:

    NE went into Atl last night with a pair of third stringers at WR (Thomkins, Edelman). Not a big deal when you factor in a bellichik and a Brady. Bellichik continues to to get the best out of his players and Brady has a knack of getting his receivers to believe in themselves. this is another good example of coaching(Playcalling) and (QB's) being one of the major gaps between average teams and perennial winners. I am not sold on Turner by a long shot. His history with Rivers was not all that great and Rivers has actually improved since Turners departure from San Diego. The play calling in the 4th qtr yesterday was masterful. I have a hunch Chud had a lot of input. Hoyer showed poise. I see a lot of potential if this relationship continues to develop.

    Turner is a very successful coordinator. When he's spread thin as HC, he's awful.

    I think he's great where he is, in the booth. He has a great football mind; scheming, spotting weaknesses, playcalling- he's great at all of it.

    When he's in charge of everything...not so much.

    I think the duo of Chud and Turner is as great as any in the league. Chud is the ballsy prodigal son returned who's brought back his NFL mentor to be his right hand man.

    I've never believed Rivers to be an upper echelon QB. He's a cocky, gunslinging risk taker like Favre but without the horseshoe lodged up his ass.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Turner is a very successful coordinator. When he's spread thin as HC, he's awful.

    I think he's great where he is, in the booth. He has a great football mind; scheming, spotting weaknesses, playcalling- he's great at all of it.

    When he's in charge of everything...not so much.

    I think the duo of Chud and Turner is as great as any in the league. Chud is the ballsy prodigal son returned who's brought back his NFL mentor to be his right hand man.

    I've never believed Rivers to be an upper echelon QB. He's a cocky, gunslinging risk taker like Favre but without the horseshoe lodged up his ass.

    Well, it is a bit too early to be singing those praises. We have coaches in this division that have won Super Bowls, so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

    And this year Phillip Rivers is playing like gangbusters. He and Peyton and Brees are the top 3 QBs, statistically, in the league so far this year.

    I hope you are right....I just hate that you suffer from premature ejaculation.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Turner is a very successful coordinator. When he's spread thin as HC, he's awful.

    I think he's great where he is, in the booth. He has a great football mind; scheming, spotting weaknesses, playcalling- he's great at all of it.

    When he's in charge of everything...not so much.

    I think the duo of Chud and Turner is as great as any in the league. Chud is the ballsy prodigal son returned who's brought back his NFL mentor to be his right hand man.

    I've never believed Rivers to be an upper echelon QB. He's a cocky, gunslinging risk taker like Favre but without the horseshoe lodged up his ass.

    Well, it is a bit too early to be singing those praises. We have coaches in this division that have won Super Bowls, so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

    And this year Phillip Rivers is playing like gangbusters. He and Peyton and Brees are the top 3 QBs, statistically, in the league so far this year.

    I hope you are right....I just hate that you suffer from premature ejaculation.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, it is a bit too early to be singing those praises. We have coaches in this division that have won Super Bowls, so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

    And this year Phillip Rivers is playing like gangbusters. He and Peyton and Brees are the top 3 QBs, statistically, in the league so far this year.

    I hope you are right....I just hate that you suffer from premature ejaculation.

    Or premature speculation?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, it is a bit too early to be singing those praises. We have coaches in this division that have won Super Bowls, so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

    And this year Phillip Rivers is playing like gangbusters. He and Peyton and Brees are the top 3 QBs, statistically, in the league so far this year.

    I hope you are right....I just hate that you suffer from premature ejaculation.

    Or premature speculation?

    @gftchris said:

    Or premature speculation?

    With TCPO it is often the same thing! 😄