Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!
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Tajh was "All American of the Day" by ESPN or somebody. Had a very big day, probably got back up into the top half of round one. Dude certainly has a big arm and a pretty release.
Tajh was "All American of the Day" by ESPN or somebody. Had a very big day, probably got back up into the top half of round one. Dude certainly has a big arm and a pretty release.
You've said the same about Wheezy...
Tajh made some questionable decisions...
I'll keep watching, but I am far from sold...
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Just read one mock draft that had us taking Marcus Mariota and De'Anthony Thomas from Oregon with our two 1st round picks. I doubt we will go after RB in the 1st round again, especially if we get Tate. Adding the two Oregon Duck players would definitely add a ton of speed to our team. I have watched some video on Mariota and am unsure how his skills will translate to the next level.
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Just read one mock draft that had us taking Marcus Mariota and De'Anthony Thomas from Oregon with our two 1st round picks. I doubt we will go after RB in the 1st round again, especially if we get Tate. Adding the two Oregon Duck players would definitely add a ton of speed to our team. I have watched some video on Mariota and am unsure how his skills will translate to the next level.
Just read one mock draft that had us taking Marcus Mariota and De'Anthony Thomas from Oregon with our two 1st round picks. I doubt we will go after RB in the 1st round again, especially if we get Tate. Adding the two Oregon Duck players would definitely add a ton of speed to our team. I have watched some video on Mariota and am unsure how his skills will translate to the next level.
I really don't understand how anyone at the Bleacher Report has a job. First off they have us picking 3rd(they make no mention of a trade to move up) and 15th(Colts Pick) and have us taking a 5'9" 176lb running back with that pick.
I do not know how Mariota skills will translate to the NFL but I can say this .........good luck naming one decent offensive player from Oregon in the NFL now.
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
Man, if Hoyer could become a legitimate starting QB, we would be set to win big next year. Can you imagine, a top QB, with a combination of Lewis and Ben Tate in the backfield, with Gordon, Cameron, and probably 3-4 of our 1st-3rd round picks going on offense? Pick up another WR, play with Gordon, Cameron, Bess, WR2. Benjamin moves to basically exclusively kick returns and specific plays involving him. Then we get a top guard (or two?) for the O-Line - assuming schwartz picks up and plays like he did in the second half of last year. Then we get what is basically a luxury pick to spend on someone that could be really explosive, like a Tavon Austin or Geovanni Bernard from this year. You get a CB2 with on of those defense picks, skrine moves to the nickel, maybe we pick up a safety, if Gipson doesn't work out or Ward gets cut.
It all starts with Hoyer (or someone) proving they can be a quality QB.
gftChris, on 27 Sept 2013 - 5:20 PM, said:
Man, if Hoyer could become a legitimate starting QB, we would be set to win big next year. Can you imagine, a top QB, with a combination of Lewis and Ben Tate in the backfield, with Gordon, Cameron, and probably 3-4 of our 1st-3rd round picks going on offense? Pick up another WR, play with Gordon, Cameron, Bess, WR2. Benjamin moves to basically exclusively kick returns and specific plays involving him. Then we get a top guard (or two?) for the O-Line - assuming schwartz picks up and plays like he did in the second half of last year. Then we get what is basically a luxury pick to spend on someone that could be really explosive, like a Tavon Austin or Geovanni Bernard from this year. You get a CB2 with on of those defense picks, skrine moves to the nickel, maybe we pick up a safety, if Gipson doesn't work out or Ward gets cut.
It all starts with Hoyer (or someone) proving they can be a quality QB.
aren't you missing one of our most glaring weaknesses? a cb to play across from haden?
if hoyer pans out i'd go WR OL then CB.
everything else would be candy. maybe add another S that can hit and tackle.
Nope, not missing it...
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Just read one mock draft that had us taking Marcus Mariota and De'Anthony Thomas from Oregon with our two 1st round picks. I doubt we will go after RB in the 1st round again, especially if we get Tate. Adding the two Oregon Duck players would definitely add a ton of speed to our team. I have watched some video on Mariota and am unsure how his skills will translate to the next level.
I really don't understand how anyone at the Bleacher Report has a job. First off they have us picking 3rd(they make no mention of a trade to move up) and 15th(Colts Pick) and have us taking a 5'9" 176lb running back with that pick.
I do not know how Mariota skills will translate to the NFL but I can say this .........good luck naming one decent offensive player from Oregon in the NFL now.
not sure where your going with this but that school puts out alot of talent.I really don't understand how anyone at the Bleacher Report has a job. First off they have us picking 3rd(they make no mention of a trade to move up) and 15th(Colts Pick) and have us taking a 5'9" 176lb running back with that pick.
I do not know how Mariota skills will translate to the NFL but I can say this .........good luck naming one decent offensive player from Oregon in the NFL now.
tj ward?
Haloti Nagta?
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not sure where your going with this but that school puts out alot of talent.I really don't understand how anyone at the Bleacher Report has a job. First off they have us picking 3rd(they make no mention of a trade to move up) and 15th(Colts Pick) and have us taking a 5'9" 176lb running back with that pick.
I do not know how Mariota skills will translate to the NFL but I can say this .........good luck naming one decent offensive player from Oregon in the NFL now.
tj ward?
Haloti Nagta?
not sure where your going with this but that school puts out alot of talent.
tj ward?
Haloti Nagta?
I know nothing about oregon, but I do know those are D players and Gip was talking about O players. And there endeth my contribution...
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go look at the seattle seahawks backfield and then get back to me. we've got one shut down corner (drafted one that hasn't even touched the field) a couple of decent safeties but in this 'pass happy' league that everyone swears by these days i doubt if skrine could hang with anyone's LEGIT number 2, god forbid atlanta's wideouts.
might want to get your eyes checked.
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Richard Sherman is a 5th round pick. Browner... UDFA?
I'm in. My point was that you don't pick your #2 corner in the first round. Shit value. But we agree we could use some size at corner.
But when you're ranked 9th in opposing PR... you can't win a lot more games by improving your #2 corner. Maybe .25?
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David Fales came up in another thread as a guy you might get in round 3 if Hoyer plays really well this season. Arm talent sure as hell is there, although not a bazooka. Some have him in round 4 right now but I think he'll rise, maybe even to round 2. Good size (6'2", 220), very accurate, above average mobility. Said to be very smart. Kinda reminds me of, uh... Brian Hoyer.
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Time to do a mock draft:
JAC= Bridgewater
OAK= Mariota (following their trend of picking mobile QBs)
STL= Boyd (assuming Bradford outstays his welcome)
PIT= any non-skill position player
AZ= Hundley (depends on whether AZ wants to look past Palmer yet or build upon their O-line)
PHI= Watkins (wouldn't be shocked if Coach No-Huddle & Owner I-Want-Stars drafted Manziel, lol)
MIN= Evans (assuming Cassel doesn't implode like Ponder)
NYJ= Lee (Rodgers would look bad with the Jets' WR corps!)
I think CLE will have the next pick. Given that all the projected 1st-round QBs will be gone by then, they will probably draft an OLB, either Barr or Mosley. With IND's pick, CLE will pick up the best O-linemen available. In the 2nd round, they could either trade up for Manziel (let us hope Lomard doesn't!) or pick up Mettenberger or Carr.
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I'm not high on any QB that isn't Bridgewater in the first round.
I'd rather hope we draft AJ McCarron in the 4th if we can't get Teddy.
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Time to do a mock draft:
JAC= Bridgewater
OAK= Mariota (following their trend of picking mobile QBs)
STL= Boyd (assuming Bradford outstays his welcome)
PIT= any non-skill position player
AZ= Hundley (depends on whether AZ wants to look past Palmer yet or build upon their O-line)
PHI= Watkins (wouldn't be shocked if Coach No-Huddle & Owner I-Want-Stars drafted Manziel, lol)
MIN= Evans (assuming Cassel doesn't implode like Ponder)
NYJ= Lee (Rodgers would look bad with the Jets' WR corps!)
I think CLE will have the next pick. Given that all the projected 1st-round QBs will be gone by then, they will probably draft an OLB, either Barr or Mosley. With IND's pick, CLE will pick up the best O-linemen available. In the 2nd round, they could either trade up for Manziel (let us hope Lomard doesn't!) or pick up Mettenberger or Carr.
Whoa, easy there! And that comes from a noted QB nut.
Oakland loves Terrelle Pryor. They won't draft a QB that high. I kinda doubt Arizona will go that high when Palmer's got several years left in him. But I do think they could draft one at the top of round 2.
I struggle to see St. Louis go QB that high with Bradford only in year... three? But I know where you're coming from. He doesn't look good at all. Just hard to pull the trigger on that one.
OLB is pretty much our deepest position so that guy would become the first top 10 pick to be inactive every week! If we didn't go QB in round 1 after a trade-up (both will happen), I'd look at WR, RG, CB, and RB (with Indy's pick) before another OLB.
Time to do a mock draft:
JAC= Bridgewater
OAK= Mariota (following their trend of picking mobile QBs)
STL= Boyd (assuming Bradford outstays his welcome)
PIT= any non-skill position player
AZ= Hundley (depends on whether AZ wants to look past Palmer yet or build upon their O-line)
PHI= Watkins (wouldn't be shocked if Coach No-Huddle & Owner I-Want-Stars drafted Manziel, lol)
MIN= Evans (assuming Cassel doesn't implode like Ponder)
NYJ= Lee (Rodgers would look bad with the Jets' WR corps!)
I think CLE will have the next pick. Given that all the projected 1st-round QBs will be gone by then, they will probably draft an OLB, either Barr or Mosley. With IND's pick, CLE will pick up the best O-linemen available. In the 2nd round, they could either trade up for Manziel (let us hope Lomard doesn't!) or pick up Mettenberger or Carr.
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Updated yesterday. Some risers (Murray, Carr, Mettenberger), Mariota hops Hundley. Boyd at #10 now (rising again). I still like Tajh an awful lot. I could see us taking him.
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Richard Sherman is a 5th round pick. Browner... UDFA?
I'm in. My point was that you don't pick your #2 corner in the first round. Shit value. But we agree we could use some size at corner.
But when you're ranked 9th in opposing PR... you can't win a lot more games by improving your #2 corner. Maybe .25?
Richard Sherman is a 5th round pick. Browner... UDFA?
I'm in. My point was that you don't pick your #2 corner in the first round. Shit value. But we agree we could use some size at corner.
But when you're ranked 9th in opposing PR... you can't win a lot more games by improving your #2 corner. Maybe .25?
What does that matter, those guys are an exception not the rule. Just because Seattle picked up a couple no-names that ended up being great doesn't mean corners are a dime a dozen.
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Richard Sherman is a 5th round pick. Browner... UDFA?
I'm in. My point was that you don't pick your #2 corner in the first round. Shit value. But we agree we could use some size at corner.
But when you're ranked 9th in opposing PR... you can't win a lot more games by improving your #2 corner. Maybe .25?
What does that matter, those guys are an exception not the rule. Just because Seattle picked up a couple no-names that ended up being great doesn't mean corners are a dime a dozen.
Skrine looks pretty good and he was what a 5th rounder? We don't need a world beater #2 so those guys are much easier (and cheaper) to find later in the draft.What does that matter, those guys are an exception not the rule. Just because Seattle picked up a couple no-names that ended up being great doesn't mean corners are a dime a dozen.
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No one would want Buster Skrine as their long term #2 corner. He's a scrappy nickel corner and everyone knows it, we drafted Joe in the 1st round and he very well may be the best corner in the league so idk what you're getting at.
1st rounder - great
5th rounder - passable
I don't even want to spend a 1st on a corner, but we should address it either in FA or the 1st 3 rounds.
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No one would want Buster Skrine as their long term #2 corner. He's a scrappy nickel corner and everyone knows it, we drafted Joe in the 1st round and he very well may be the best corner in the league so idk what you're getting at.
1st rounder - great
5th rounder - passable
I don't even want to spend a 1st on a corner, but we should address it either in FA or the 1st 3 rounds.
No one would want Buster Skrine as their long term #2 corner. He's a scrappy nickel corner and everyone knows it, we drafted Joe in the 1st round and he very well may be the best corner in the league so idk what you're getting at.
1st rounder - great
5th rounder - passable
I don't even want to spend a 1st on a corner, but we should address it either in FA or the 1st 3 rounds.
yes. doesn't have to be our first pick nor the second. i really hope we don't get into this QB shit storm that everyone believes is so fucking great.
please fix the right side of the OL. pleez. get another true corner. another big boy WR/TE hybrid. i don't care in what order these guys get drafted. i don't care if they get addressed in FA.
what i do care about and would drive me right through a plaster wall is having all these great options with the number of picks we have and to piss away a bunch of those for some QB who is the next best thing since RG3.
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