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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    We should get Matt Flynn - and a random rookie to beat him for the starting job and actually turn in to a solid starter.

    @gftchris said:

    We should get Matt Flynn - and a random rookie to beat him for the starting job and actually turn in to a solid starter.

    @d-bone said:

    First, I'd puke, then I'd cry........I know that's what I did.

    funny shit guys!! LMAO!! (gftchris...that was a joke.....right?).

  • BrownB499B BrownB499

    Bringing in a backup expected to compete for the starting job at this point is really unrealistic...

    Weeden is the guy.... I don't like it(and no I didn't boo and shame on you if you did) you don't like it...hell I'll bet Chud

    doesn't like ...but for right now they just got a get behind Brandon and see if they can find a guy who can grasp the offense when Weeden goes down...

    and he will go down before seasons end he makes himself such a target back there I just don't see him making it through the season unscathed

    @brownb499 said:

    Bringing in a backup expected to compete for the starting job at this point is really unrealistic...

    Weeden is the guy.... I don't like it(and no I didn't boo and shame on you if you did) you don't like it...hell I'll bet Chud

    doesn't like ...but for right now they just got a get behind Brandon and see if they can find a guy who can grasp the offense when Weeden goes down...

    and he will go down before seasons end he makes himself such a target back there I just don't see him making it through the season unscathed

    While the Browns will almost certainly need to bring in a third QB....assuming Hoyer is out, it will not likely be someone that would compete for the starting position at this point....but a young guy or older veteran off the streets who will know that is role is 3rd string QB. I doubt that this front office will bring in Freeman....who is about the only guy out there who seems remotely capable of being an NFL starting QB if their plan is to go after a QB in the draft.

    I mean, we went over this in another thread. These are the other names out there:

    Jamarcus Russell

    Charlie Batch

    Byron Leftwich

    Tyler Thigpen

    Seneca Wallace

    Matt Leinert

    Vince Young

    Matt Blanchard

    Matt Brown

    Alex Carder

    David Carr

    Jimmy Clausen

    BJ Coleman

    Dayn Crist

    Austin Davis

    Dennis Dixon

    Seth Doege

    Trent Edwards

    Nathan Enderle

    Adam Weber

    John Parker Wilson

    Caleb Hanie

    Chandler Harnish

    Grahm Harrell

    Mike Herman

    Mike Kafka

    GJ Kinne

    Jordan Palmer

    Nathan Stanley

    Jordan Rodgers

    Tim Tebow

    Caleb TerBush

    James Vandenberg

    Pat White

    Dalton Williams

    Vince Young

    and of course now Josh Freeman

    Any of those names get you excited? One of them may be joining your Cleveland Browns.

  • Would Chud bring in Clausen at 3rd string? At least he knows him, having worked with him for 2 years at Carolina.

    Mike Herman and Nathan Enderle were both in San Diego with Norv.

    So, I say, keep an eye on those names primarily. (unless familiarity bred contempt and these guys now want no part of their former players).

  • Can we trade for kirk cousins?

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • There is good reason this kid has been passed on by 31 teams in the league. Why anyone would want this head case in Cleveland is beyond me.

  • slowburnS slowburn

    There is good reason this kid has been passed on by 31 teams in the league. Why anyone would want this head case in Cleveland is beyond me.

    @slowburn said:

    There is good reason this kid has been passed on by 31 teams in the league. Why anyone would want this head case in Cleveland is beyond me.

    Who are you talking about?

    slowburnS 1 Reply

  • Freeman, of course.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid

    Freeman, of course.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Freeman, of course.

    I don't think he got "passed up" by 31 teams. I think his contract got passed up by 31 teams.

    I believe if a team had claimed him on waivers they would have to pay him his current contract amount (which I suspect is a good bit of money).

    However, if he passes waivers and becomes a free agent teams are free to deal with him and pay him at whatever compensation level they can agree to.

    So, I think that is why he was "passed up".

    He is there to be had...and someone will probably have him. But who?

  • I think we should pick him up. Freeman hasa really big arm. I dont see why signing him would be bad. I think hes better than Weeden.

  • Truth be told when looking at Freeman numbers from last year they are a lot better than they initially appear.

    After a week 14 last second loss to the Eagles that dropped the Bucs to 6-7 Freeman numbers stood at 25-TD's and 8-INT's. That was the 3rd time the Bucs lost that year with less than a minute left in the game and there fourth loss when leading late in the 4th quarter.

    I find it would be quite difficult to think some team is going to pick him up and think hes just going to come in and learn and run their offense after a few weeks. I do believe that whoever does pick him up is doing so for the long haul.

    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978

  • This is the easiest decision the browns could make. The browns need a QB and they obviously have no faith in Campbell (he was a healthy scratch yesterday). Freeman is EASILY the best QB available right now and there'd be no need to sign him to a long term deal. Weeden stays the starter but this puts a fire under his ass to preform. Sign the guy to a two year deal that can we get out of if he ends up being worthless. Honestly, why would we not sign the guy?

  • its been confirmed that "browns have eliminated former Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman as an option"

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • 1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.

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  • koalabazookaK koalabazooka

    1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.

    @koalabazooka said:

    1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.

    Tank job huh? This team is too good RIGHT NOW to even consider that. If we spot a QB in the early part of the 1st, we have plenty of picks to move up and take them no matter where we are. Also, there may be enough good QBs coming out this year to just wait until the end of the 1st to get a good one. There is no way 7 to 9 wins can hurt this team. We are young enough that we need the guys who are on the roster now to continue to build confidence and get better. With all the youth and excitement around this team now, we don't need to slip back into a culture of losing, no matter how it affects our next draft. We are on the upswing, not re-building anymore...

    #Justsayin'
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  • thenew23T thenew23

    @koalabazooka said:

    1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.

    Tank job huh? This team is too good RIGHT NOW to even consider that. If we spot a QB in the early part of the 1st, we have plenty of picks to move up and take them no matter where we are. Also, there may be enough good QBs coming out this year to just wait until the end of the 1st to get a good one. There is no way 7 to 9 wins can hurt this team. We are young enough that we need the guys who are on the roster now to continue to build confidence and get better. With all the youth and excitement around this team now, we don't need to slip back into a culture of losing, no matter how it affects our next draft. We are on the upswing, not re-building anymore...

    @thenew23 said:

    Tank job huh? This team is too good RIGHT NOW to even consider that. If we spot a QB in the early part of the 1st, we have plenty of picks to move up and take them no matter where we are. Also, there may be enough good QBs coming out this year to just wait until the end of the 1st to get a good one. There is no way 7 to 9 wins can hurt this team. We are young enough that we need the guys who are on the roster now to continue to build confidence and get better. With all the youth and excitement around this team now, we don't need to slip back into a culture of losing, no matter how it affects our next draft. We are on the upswing, not re-building anymore...

    I don't think CLE should throw games, but if Weeden brings the team crashing down to Earth again, there would be a nice silver lining to it. The ironic part of next year's QB-rich draft is that there are a lot of teams that will be drafting QBs early on.

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  • You can't tank in football. Too many players would get hurt.

  • Booty LoafB Booty Loaf

    its been confirmed that "browns have eliminated former Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman as an option"

    @booty-loaf said:

    its been confirmed that "browns have eliminated former Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman as an option"

    ??? Yeah I heard on KNR they're thinking of TYLER THIGPEN??? Good point by the talking heads though- they better sign someone pronto. Weeden's lack of pocket awareness says it's odds on he's gonna take a kill shot and wind up on IR himself.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT 1 Reply

  • I'm not proposing we do this, but what would the price of Ryan Foles or Kirk Cousins be?

    I really don't want to give up any picks, but I feel we have a real shot at making noise with how shaky our division is this year.

    koalabazookaK 1 Reply
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @booty-loaf said:

    its been confirmed that "browns have eliminated former Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman as an option"

    ??? Yeah I heard on KNR they're thinking of TYLER THIGPEN??? Good point by the talking heads though- they better sign someone pronto. Weeden's lack of pocket awareness says it's odds on he's gonna take a kill shot and wind up on IR himself.

    @hoorta said:

    ??? Yeah I heard on KNR they're thinking of TYLER THIGPEN??? Good point by the talking heads though- they better sign someone pronto. Weeden's lack of pocket awareness says it's odds on he's gonna take a kill shot and wind up on IR himself.

    I played college ball with him. He's a dick.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @slowburn said:

    There is good reason this kid has been passed on by 31 teams in the league. Why anyone would want this head case in Cleveland is beyond me.

    Who are you talking about?

    @the-gipper said:

    Who are you talking about?

    I am talking about the Bucs wanting to trade Freeman but coming up with no takers. The Bucs dropped him from the roster rather than keep him around. They essentially are paying him to go away. I agree, his contract may be partially the reason he has not been picked up. But, it seems to me that if an employer pays an employee a substantial salary to stay away there are some significant issues that could not be surmounted.......and reading between the lines, I think Frees issues are attitude related. One possible scenario is a team picking up Frees under the condition that the Bucs pay half his salary.

    As well, the Browns FO seems to have an aversion to head cases which was partially the reason they sent Trich packing. I can't see them extending an offer to a player with potentially the same reluctance to buy into a teams philosophy and a player who puts himself before the team. I would be very surprised to see Frees in a Browns uni.

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