Hoyer out for season
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Listen, Hoyer didn't win any games for us, same as Weeden hasn't lost any games for us. Sure, Hoyer looked a little better, but he wasn't exactly perfect in his 2 starts. Hoyer did just enough in 2 games for us to win. All Weeden needs to do is just enough for us to NOT lose. Our defense and ST have been a major factor in all 3 wins, and I see that continuing the rest of the season. We don't need "lights out" QB play with this team, just need first downs that lead to good field position and enough points to give our D a chance. This CAN be a playoff team with Weeden, especially if he plays like he did in the 2nd half...
Hoyer led a game winning drive and a game sealing drive in back to back weeks. Weeden holds on to the ball too long and stares at recievers. When you go 3 and out all game the defense gets tired. That's why we lost the first 2 games. Do you have anymore great thoughts you need to share with the rest of us smartass?
Hoyer led a game winning drive and a game sealing drive in back to back weeks. Weeden holds on to the ball too long and stares at recievers. When you go 3 and out all game the defense gets tired. That's why we lost the first 2 games. Do you have anymore great thoughts you need to share with the rest of us smartass?
It amazes me that Weeden did the same thing last night as Hoyer did against the Vikings, yet Weeden has gotten no credit from fans. Down 24-17 in the 2nd half and he takes 2 plays to go 74 yards for a game-tying TD. Then, he converts a huge 3rd & 18 to keep a late 4th quarter drive going, which was back-breaking to the Bills D at the time.
Also, did you really watch Hoyer? He was great, and I still would start him if he was healthy, but he stared down his receivers which cost him 3 INTs in the game against MIN. And, against Cincy?? The D only gave up 6 POINTS. We didn't even need a TD to win that one...
Give credit where it's due. The D and ST (remember the fake FG and fake P). Hoyer was a great game manager, and I mean great, but having to go with Weeden isn't the end of the world given the supporting cast...
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Hoyer led a game winning drive and a game sealing drive in back to back weeks. Weeden holds on to the ball too long and stares at recievers. When you go 3 and out all game the defense gets tired. That's why we lost the first 2 games. Do you have anymore great thoughts you need to share with the rest of us smartass?
It amazes me that Weeden did the same thing last night as Hoyer did against the Vikings, yet Weeden has gotten no credit from fans. Down 24-17 in the 2nd half and he takes 2 plays to go 74 yards for a game-tying TD. Then, he converts a huge 3rd & 18 to keep a late 4th quarter drive going, which was back-breaking to the Bills D at the time.
Also, did you really watch Hoyer? He was great, and I still would start him if he was healthy, but he stared down his receivers which cost him 3 INTs in the game against MIN. And, against Cincy?? The D only gave up 6 POINTS. We didn't even need a TD to win that one...
Give credit where it's due. The D and ST (remember the fake FG and fake P). Hoyer was a great game manager, and I mean great, but having to go with Weeden isn't the end of the world given the supporting cast...
It amazes me that Weeden did the same thing last night as Hoyer did against the Vikings, yet Weeden has gotten no credit from fans. Down 24-17 in the 2nd half and he takes 2 plays to go 74 yards for a game-tying TD. Then, he converts a huge 3rd & 18 to keep a late 4th quarter drive going, which was back-breaking to the Bills D at the time.
Also, did you really watch Hoyer? He was great, and I still would start him if he was healthy, but he stared down his receivers which cost him 3 INTs in the game against MIN. And, against Cincy?? The D only gave up 6 POINTS. We didn't even need a TD to win that one...
Give credit where it's due. The D and ST (remember the fake FG and fake P). Hoyer was a great game manager, and I mean great, but having to go with Weeden isn't the end of the world given the supporting cast...
You just contradicted yourself. First you say Hoyer was only a little bit better and now you say he is great? Special teams and trick plays at Minnesota blah blah blah. We got a punt return and a defensive TD last night. I don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to Quarterbacks.
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Hoyer led a game winning drive and a game sealing drive in back to back weeks. Weeden holds on to the ball too long and stares at recievers. When you go 3 and out all game the defense gets tired. That's why we lost the first 2 games. Do you have anymore great thoughts you need to share with the rest of us smartass?
It amazes me that Weeden did the same thing last night as Hoyer did against the Vikings, yet Weeden has gotten no credit from fans. Down 24-17 in the 2nd half and he takes 2 plays to go 74 yards for a game-tying TD. Then, he converts a huge 3rd & 18 to keep a late 4th quarter drive going, which was back-breaking to the Bills D at the time.
Also, did you really watch Hoyer? He was great, and I still would start him if he was healthy, but he stared down his receivers which cost him 3 INTs in the game against MIN. And, against Cincy?? The D only gave up 6 POINTS. We didn't even need a TD to win that one...
Give credit where it's due. The D and ST (remember the fake FG and fake P). Hoyer was a great game manager, and I mean great, but having to go with Weeden isn't the end of the world given the supporting cast...
It amazes me that Weeden did the same thing last night as Hoyer did against the Vikings, yet Weeden has gotten no credit from fans. Down 24-17 in the 2nd half and he takes 2 plays to go 74 yards for a game-tying TD. Then, he converts a huge 3rd & 18 to keep a late 4th quarter drive going, which was back-breaking to the Bills D at the time. Weeden can't make most of the throws, sorry, he just can't. I like and support the kid, but Hoyer is 3x better. Hoyer can drop passing into a target (like the TD pass Gordon dropped last night), he can throw a great fade (to Cameron), he gets rid of the ball quickly (needed since we have Oline issues), and has scramblin ability worst case (see play he blew his knee out) - ALL of which, Weeden does not have. Weeden has a cannon of an arm, with which he throws frozen rope fastballs.....a econd too late and off target.
Also, did you really watch Hoyer? He was great, and I still would start him if he was healthy, but he stared down his receivers which cost him 3 INTs in the game against MIN. No he didn't, one was a batted arm.
And, against Cincy?? The D only gave up 6 POINTS. We didn't even need a TD to win that one... So you're saying alot of the times we won't need an offense to win, and are comfortable accepting that?
Give credit where it's due. The D and ST (remember the fake FG and fake P). Hoyer was a great game manager, and I mean great, but having to go with Weeden isn't the end of the world given the supporting cast... It's not good, at all.
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Lol. Do Alex Smith and Doug Flutie count?Let see Norv Turner has been around since the early 90's and yet I can't think of one mobile QB that's been in his system but he sure does like them.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Lol. Do Alex Smith and Doug Flutie count?
Alex Smith....really and a 40 year old Flutie .....nope try again
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It amazes me that Weeden did the same thing last night as Hoyer did against the Vikings, yet Weeden has gotten no credit from fans. Down 24-17 in the 2nd half and he takes 2 plays to go 74 yards for a game-tying TD. Then, he converts a huge 3rd & 18 to keep a late 4th quarter drive going, which was back-breaking to the Bills D at the time.
Also, did you really watch Hoyer? He was great, and I still would start him if he was healthy, but he stared down his receivers which cost him 3 INTs in the game against MIN. And, against Cincy?? The D only gave up 6 POINTS. We didn't even need a TD to win that one...
Give credit where it's due. The D and ST (remember the fake FG and fake P). Hoyer was a great game manager, and I mean great, but having to go with Weeden isn't the end of the world given the supporting cast...
You just contradicted yourself. First you say Hoyer was only a little bit better and now you say he is great? Special teams and trick plays at Minnesota blah blah blah. We got a punt return and a defensive TD last night. I don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to Quarterbacks.
You just contradicted yourself. First you say Hoyer was only a little bit better and now you say he is great? Special teams and trick plays at Minnesota blah blah blah. We got a punt return and a defensive TD last night. I don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to Quarterbacks.
I said great "game manager." Which like I said, is all we need. Plus, your quarterback knowledge is amazing... "Weeden sucks" impressive...
Complain all you want... Weeden is our QB. Get on board!!
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Tyler Thigpen
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/04/report-browns-expected-to-meet-with-tyler-thigpen/
Pretty much confirms that Weeden is the guy the rest of the way
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Can you read? I never said he sucks and you said Hoyer is great. Scroll up and read slowly what you wrote because I'm not gonna quote it again because you're a moron.
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laughable. you guys sound like a bunch of bitches.
this is weeden's make or break time. we spent a first round pick on the guy and a lot of people saw enough in him pre-draft for the browns to move up and take him. do i think they made the right choice? no. BUT it wasn't mine to make so this is who we are stuck with. give the guy a chance. yeah we all fell in love with the hoyer story but shit like this happens every sunday (or thursday and sometimes saturday).
i would cut campbell tomorrow and sign freeman in a heart beat. didn't he have one of the best rookie years a QB ever had? schiano is a prick, just ask ray rice. fuck him. talk about a team that is doomed. he'll be lucky to last out the year.
and 2 words to the troy smith lovers:
shut up.
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I'm so sorry guys. Hoyer looked like the next great qb in my opinion. But he will be back next year, I think if weeden can win 6 games you guys will win the division. Hopefully weeden will have a fire under his ass and a chip on his shoulder and play lights out. Good luck guys ill be rooting as long as y'all don't play the skins in the sb!
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We better sign someone quick because the way that dufas Weeden stands like a freakin' statue behind the line he won't last the season getting sacked 6 times a game.
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We better sign someone quick because the way that dufas Weeden stands like a freakin' statue behind the line he won't last the season getting sacked 6 times a game.
We better sign someone quick because the way that dufas Weeden stands like a freakin' statue behind the line he won't last the season getting sacked 6 times a game.
...and he stares down the receiver...and he consistently delivers the ball late...and he throws behind the receiver...and he constantly
gets his passes batted down at the line...and he has to burn at least 3 timeouts every game because he can't get the play off in time.
In the words of the immortal Joe Schultz, "Aw, shitfuck".
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We better sign someone quick because the way that dufas Weeden stands like a freakin' statue behind the line he won't last the season getting sacked 6 times a game.
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I'm so sorry guys. Hoyer looked like the next great qb in my opinion. But he will be back next year, I think if weeden can win 6 games you guys will win the division. Hopefully weeden will have a fire under his ass and a chip on his shoulder and play lights out. Good luck guys ill be rooting as long as y'all don't play the skins in the sb!
I'm so sorry guys. Hoyer looked like the next great qb in my opinion. But he will be back next year, I think if weeden can win 6 games you guys will win the division. Hopefully weeden will have a fire under his ass and a chip on his shoulder and play lights out. Good luck guys ill be rooting as long as y'all don't play the skins in the sb!
thanks for the post. class act. i got a friend who is both a skins and a stooler fan. so i get a lot of knowledge about the franchise through hearing his 'stories'. like your team. next year draft defense all the way.
just am not sold on shanahan. never have been. but good luck. thanks for the nice words.
We better sign someone quick because the way that dufas Weeden stands like a freakin' statue behind the line he won't last the season getting sacked 6 times a game.
yessir.
...and he stares down the receiver...and he consistently delivers the ball late...and he throws behind the receiver...and he constantly
gets his passes batted down at the line...and he has to burn at least 3 timeouts every game because he can't get the play off in time.
In the words of the immortal Joe Schultz, "Aw, shitfuck".
sooooooo true. and by the way fucking hilarious!
he won't survive Suh next Sunday, we better find someone real quick.
FREEMAN!! FREEMAN!! FREEMAN!!
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laughable. you guys sound like a bunch of bitches.
this is weeden's make or break time. we spent a first round pick on the guy and a lot of people saw enough in him pre-draft for the browns to move up and take him. do i think they made the right choice? no. BUT it wasn't mine to make so this is who we are stuck with. give the guy a chance. yeah we all fell in love with the hoyer story but shit like this happens every sunday (or thursday and sometimes saturday).
i would cut campbell tomorrow and sign freeman in a heart beat. didn't he have one of the best rookie years a QB ever had? schiano is a prick, just ask ray rice. fuck him. talk about a team that is doomed. he'll be lucky to last out the year.
and 2 words to the troy smith lovers:
shut up.
laughable. you guys sound like a bunch of bitches.
this is weeden's make or break time. we spent a first round pick on the guy and a lot of people saw enough in him pre-draft for the browns to move up and take him. do i think they made the right choice? no. BUT it wasn't mine to make so this is who we are stuck with. give the guy a chance. yeah we all fell in love with the hoyer story but shit like this happens every sunday (or thursday and sometimes saturday).
i would cut campbell tomorrow and sign freeman in a heart beat. didn't he have one of the best rookie years a QB ever had? schiano is a prick, just ask ray rice. fuck him. talk about a team that is doomed. he'll be lucky to last out the year.
and 2 words to the troy smith lovers:
shut up.
Totally agree. Freeman would be a huge upgrade over Campbell.....If he's a problem, dump him. Probably some others out there I don't even know about, so there's always a replacement to sign until we get our franchise QB next year.
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laughable. you guys sound like a bunch of bitches.
this is weeden's make or break time. we spent a first round pick on the guy and a lot of people saw enough in him pre-draft for the browns to move up and take him. do i think they made the right choice? no. BUT it wasn't mine to make so this is who we are stuck with. give the guy a chance. yeah we all fell in love with the hoyer story but shit like this happens every sunday (or thursday and sometimes saturday).
i would cut campbell tomorrow and sign freeman in a heart beat. didn't he have one of the best rookie years a QB ever had? schiano is a prick, just ask ray rice. fuck him. talk about a team that is doomed. he'll be lucky to last out the year.
and 2 words to the troy smith lovers:
shut up.
Actually Freeman was terrible his rookie year, had a great year 2, a horrible year 3, and rebounded for a mediocre year 4. BRING IN TROY! Fuck Tyler Pigpenlaughable. you guys sound like a bunch of bitches.
this is weeden's make or break time. we spent a first round pick on the guy and a lot of people saw enough in him pre-draft for the browns to move up and take him. do i think they made the right choice? no. BUT it wasn't mine to make so this is who we are stuck with. give the guy a chance. yeah we all fell in love with the hoyer story but shit like this happens every sunday (or thursday and sometimes saturday).
i would cut campbell tomorrow and sign freeman in a heart beat. didn't he have one of the best rookie years a QB ever had? schiano is a prick, just ask ray rice. fuck him. talk about a team that is doomed. he'll be lucky to last out the year.
and 2 words to the troy smith lovers:
shut up.
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Actually Freeman was terrible his rookie year, had a great year 2, a horrible year 3, and rebounded for a mediocre year 4. BRING IN TROY! Fuck Tyler Pigpenlaughable. you guys sound like a bunch of bitches.
this is weeden's make or break time. we spent a first round pick on the guy and a lot of people saw enough in him pre-draft for the browns to move up and take him. do i think they made the right choice? no. BUT it wasn't mine to make so this is who we are stuck with. give the guy a chance. yeah we all fell in love with the hoyer story but shit like this happens every sunday (or thursday and sometimes saturday).
i would cut campbell tomorrow and sign freeman in a heart beat. didn't he have one of the best rookie years a QB ever had? schiano is a prick, just ask ray rice. fuck him. talk about a team that is doomed. he'll be lucky to last out the year.
and 2 words to the troy smith lovers:
shut up.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Actually Freeman was terrible his rookie year, had a great year 2, a horrible year 3, and rebounded for a mediocre year 4. BRING IN TROY! Fuck Tyler Pigpen
c'mon dude. can't you be objective w/o throwing in the buckeye love?
i mean i love me some ohio state too, but troy smith sucked then and sucks now. couldn't even hold freeman's jock.
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We better sign someone quick because the way that dufas Weeden stands like a freakin' statue behind the line he won't last the season getting sacked 6 times a game.
...and he stares down the receiver...and he consistently delivers the ball late...and he throws behind the receiver...and he constantly
gets his passes batted down at the line...and he has to burn at least 3 timeouts every game because he can't get the play off in time.
In the words of the immortal Joe Schultz, "Aw, shitfuck".
...and he stares down the receiver...and he consistently delivers the ball late...and he throws behind the receiver EDIT from me- constantly- threw the ball behind a open Bess, ...and he constantly gets his passes batted down at the line...and he has to burn at least 3 timeouts every game because he can't get the play off in time.
You forgot has zero pocket presence either. (Watched the tape today, the dumbass SAW a defender coming right at him, and stood there like a deer in the headlights- a couple of times) Or has no touch on his passes. (anyone remember him ever tossing a nice touch fade in the endzone that was 1\2 accurate?) Can't see receivers breaking open to save his life. But other than that, he can occasionally throw a nice laser bomb. I iz seeing DA II. Looks great when he has all day to throw, but so can any scrub qb with an NFL arm.
Yeah, I'll support the guy, but the Trent Richardson trade showed the coaches had zero confidence Weeden can correct his shortcomings, a couple weeks ago. The guy is going to be 30 years old shortly on to of it. Hoyer could minimize the offense's weaknesses, Weeden maximizes them.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Actually Freeman was terrible his rookie year, had a great year 2, a horrible year 3, and rebounded for a mediocre year 4. BRING IN TROY! Fuck Tyler Pigpen
c'mon dude. can't you be objective w/o throwing in the buckeye love?
i mean i love me some ohio state too, but troy smith sucked then and sucks now. couldn't even hold freeman's jock.
Hahaha, I wasn't saying Smith is bettet than freeman or Thigpen, or weeden or Campbell. I don't want whoever we sign to even see the field unless its an emergency.c'mon dude. can't you be objective w/o throwing in the buckeye love?
i mean i love me some ohio state too, but troy smith sucked then and sucks now. couldn't even hold freeman's jock.
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