Force the debt limit, NO INCREASES
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it's not about me it's not about you, it's about ending a nations habbit on living beyond it's means.
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Say we raise the limit "again" when the next limit approaches do we do it again? What happens when the world says you know what we're tired of lending you money America, because that's where this leads.
The time to gain control is before the lenders stop offering you loans.........
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But will you lose your job or any benefits you receive? Will what your proposing affect you?
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But will you lose your job or any benefits you receive? Will what your proposing affect you?
But will you lose your job or any benefits you receive? Will what your proposing affect you?
Per usual, completely missing the point.
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No one going to answer?
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We refuse to help you avoid the point. You know, the freakin
SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. Stop trying to invent your own subject, so
you can avoid having to be expected to comment intelligently on the actual subject at hand..
Obamao called Bush's debt "unpatriotic".
So, this Obamao debt must make Obamao a traitor, since he's going for broke
to spin the far huger debt completely ...more out of control.
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We refuse to help you avoid the point. You know, the freakin
SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. Stop trying to invent your own subject, so
you can avoid having to be expected to comment intelligently on the actual subject at hand..
Obamao called Bush's debt "unpatriotic".
So, this Obamao debt must make Obamao a traitor, since he's going for broke
to spin the far huger debt completely ...more out of control.
We refuse to help you avoid the point. You know, the freakin
SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. Stop trying to invent your own subject, so
you can avoid having to be expected to comment intelligently on the actual subject at hand..
Obamao called Bush's debt "unpatriotic".
So, this Obamao debt must make Obamao a traitor, since he's going for broke
to spin the far huger debt completely ...more out of control.
Really? Because I am asking about EXACTLY what he mentioned in the OP.
You fucking ignorant, gullible, blind, Retarded, shit stain of a person
Also, can you show me the quote where Obama calls Bush's debt unpatriotic? I'm not saying you are right or wrong, (though you probably use it way out of context), but I'm just wondering what the quote it
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Woodypeckerhead, you are the butt of this board again.
The subject of the thread, is about the GOP getting hardnosed
about this battle over raising our national debt. And people losing benefits and jobs
with the shutdown, etc etc.
It isn't about jag personally. You made it a personal thing, an off-subject challenge
so you might have some dumbass chance of making some point.
So, NO, he never inferred it was about himself. Face it, you don't have any ability
to keep up with any subject on this board. That's really weird, and sad.
You make it stupid, too.
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And, stupid woodypeckerhead - stop being a dumbass long enough to learn
how to do a simple google search on the internet. Challenge me on Obamao calling the
debt unpatriotic eh? Moron.
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Search Results- Obama four years ago: 'driving up our national debt' is 'unpatriotic ...dailycaller.com/.../republicans-resurface-obama-of-four-years-ago-raisin...‎Jul 3, 2012 - GOP critique: Obama has raised the debt by $5 trillion; more than any ...to raise the debt ceiling, without cutting spending, as “breathtaking.”.
- Obama on raising the Debt Ceiling during his 2008 Campaign ...► 0:37► 0:37‎
- Debt ceiling skyrockets, Obama no longer calls Bush 'unpatriotic' for ...www.foxnews.com/.../as-debt-ceiling-skyrockets-obama-no-longer-callin...‎Jan 30, 2012 - As President Obama prepares to raise the debt ceiling -- after the ... is no longer unpatriotic, as it was when he was on the campaign trail in ...
- Obama in '08: Bush's debt “unpatriotic” « Commentary Magazinewww.commentarymagazine.com/.../obama-2008-bush-debt-unpatriotic/‎Aug 24, 2011 - We recently learned that during the Obama presidency — which hasn't even .... How could Obama in 2006 vote against raising the debt ceiling, ...
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- Obama Called Smaller Bush Debt Rise “Unpatriotic” | The Blog on ...www.whitehousedossier.com/.../obama-called-smaller-bush-debt-rise-un...‎Jan 13, 2012 - The GOP needs to play this tape non-stop of Obama saying howunpatriotic Bush was to raise the debt ceiling. What a hypocrit. This Saul ...
- Flashback: Obama calls adding $4 trillion to national debt “unpatriotic”hotair.com/archives/...obama...4...debt-unpatriotic/comment-page-1/‎Aug 24, 2011 - NBC/WSJ poll shows 2:1 opposition to raising the debt ceiling ...Campaign Obama: Adding 4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic | The Right Scoop ...
- When Bush raised the debt cieling Obama said in 2006 "Raising the ...www.sodahead.com/...raised...debt...obama...raising...debt-ceiling.../ques...‎Jan 17, 2013 - As President Obama prepares to raise the debt ceiling -- after the Senate waived its opposition last week -- $5 trillion hikes evidently are no ...
- Is obama unpatriotic wanting the debt ceiling raised? Or is he a ...answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131004135517AArjiQY‎1 day ago - Obama himself stated that raising the debt ceiling for bush when he was potus was unpatriotic!
- Then and now: Barack Obama calls President Bush “unpatriotic” for ...americaswatchtower.com/.../then-and-now-barack-obama-calls-president...‎Aug 24, 2011 - While defending the recent raising of the debt ceiling while the debate... Then and now: Barack Obama calls President Bush “unpatriotic” for ...
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No one going to answer?
sorry, didn't think the question was all that insightful. Yeah I'd guess somebody is going to put up with some inconvenience. That's what happens when you run out of money. You either borrow more which you can't pay back or you have to reorganize, give up a few things.
WSS
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No one going to answer?
sorry, didn't think the question was all that insightful. Yeah I'd guess somebody is going to put up with some inconvenience. That's what happens when you run out of money. You either borrow more which you can't pay back or you have to reorganize, give up a few things.
WSS
sorry, didn't think the question was all that insightful. Yeah I'd guess somebody is going to put up with some inconvenience. That's what happens when you run out of money. You either borrow more which you can't pay back or you have to reorganize, give up a few things.
WSS
No its a fine question steve, and one that I for would like to hear an answer to. Who here will lose their job, have their hours cut, or lose benefits? Because I know for a fact that you guys have no theoretical regard for nameless faceless people you don't know.
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No, it's a dumb question. How the heck do the few of us know what will be happening to us?
But one indication, is a simple google search:
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is lots of .... But what is the proof that this is due to Obamacare? Benefits ...
- Paper lists employers who blame Obamacare for cuts in hours, jobs ...blogs.marketwatch.com/.../the-surprising-list-of-employers-who-blame-o...‎Sep 11, 2013 - One media outlet's chart shows more than 250 employers thus far have cut back on hours and employees in order to avoid Obamacare ...
- With Eye on ObamaCare, Companies Move to Cut Workers' Hours ...www.foxbusiness.com/.../with-eye-on-obamacare-companies-move-to-c...‎Sep 11, 2013 - The list of companies moving to cut hours for part-time workers continues to ... ObamaCare requires that companies with 50 or more employees provide .... Related Stories: The Private Exchange Alternative: How it Compares ...
- Obamacare Is Causing Some Restaurant Owners to Cut Employees ...www.businessweek.com/.../obamacares-fast-food-menu-cutting-workers-...‎Sep 20, 2013 - By 2015, any company with more than 50 such employees ... Obamacare's Fast-Food Menu: Cutting Workers' Hours for Some, Slower Growth for Others ... Fox is sure that pressure from Obamacare-related costs will slow the ...
- Claims Obamacare is causing employers to cut back workers' hours ...www.cleveland.com/business/.../charges_obamacare_is_causing_e.html‎Sep 5, 2013 - ... take effect until 2015. So claims that employers are cutting back hours to avoid penalties are only anecdotal , employers and experts say. ... Is the Affordable Care Act, also know as Obamacare, to blame? ... Related Stories.
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Read that final paragraph again, closely, cal.
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So ok fast food workers and blockbusters are going to cut back the hours of dome part time workers. Big deal. Cal you really need to read the stuff you post, brother.
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There's more:
Unions:
Search ResultsCBN TV - Labor Unions Suffer Buyer's Remorse on Obamacare►►www.cbn.com/tv/2549965568001‎SimilarJul 17, 2013
obamacare health care buyer's remorse labor unions teamsters james hoffa unions unintended ...Chairman's View: Unions Have Buyer's Remorse for Obamacare ...www.rpc.senate.gov › Chairman's View‎Cached
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.‎CachedJul 22, 2013 - Here is Avik Roy of the Manhattan Institute talking about how major Labor Union leaders are “changing their tune” on ObamaCare – which they ...Buyer's Remorse: Another Union Comes Out Against Obamacare ...weaselzippers.us/.../buyers-remorse-another-union-comes-out-against-ob...‎Cached
Jul 11, 2013 - Another union is crying foul over what it says is Obamacare's negative impact on its members' current healthcare coverage under ...Buyers' Remorse: Union Leaders Demand Changes to Obamacare ...www.uschamber.com/.../buyers’-remorse-union-leaders-demand-change...‎Cached
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Labor Unions Suffer Buyer's Remorse on Obamacare.Labor Unions Suffer Buyer's Remorse on Obamacare | Christian ...cc.org/news/labor_unions_suffer_buyer039s_remorse_obamacare‎CachedA key ally in the Obama administration's successful fight to pass health care reform is now suffering buyer's remorse. Labor unions helped elect Democrats to ...Unions Have Buyer's Remorse on Obamacare | Via Meadiablogs.the-american-interest.com/.../unions-have-buyers-remorse-on-oba...‎Cached
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sorry, didn't think the question was all that insightful. Yeah I'd guess somebody is going to put up with some inconvenience. That's what happens when you run out of money. You either borrow more which you can't pay back or you have to reorganize, give up a few things.
WSS
No its a fine question steve, and one that I for would like to hear an answer to. Who here will lose their job, have their hours cut, or lose benefits? Because I know for a fact that you guys have no theoretical regard for nameless faceless people you don't know.
well then it looks like your answer is probably nobody here. And even that faceless bunch that you are worried about seems like they will get their back pay soon after this debacle is over which should be in about 2 weeks. Right before the deadline. Just as soon as this little piece of Kabuki theater is over they will come to some sort of bullshit compromise and send everybody a check.No its a fine question steve, and one that I for would like to hear an answer to. Who here will lose their job, have their hours cut, or lose benefits? Because I know for a fact that you guys have no theoretical regard for nameless faceless people you don't know.
WSS
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Cal has the greatest source of all though, search results!
You can't argue with that Cysko...
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Will you lose your job or benefits?
Woody I am not personally attacking you because I don't know you, but the point of my comment is that you don't have to be a person who is losing his/her job in order to make the OP's statement. This country NEEDS to stop raising the debt ceiling or else it could be the end of this great republic.
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It is easier to call for this and that and cutbacks here and there when they do not affect you directly.
Look at the one republican gov., he didn't want anything to do with gay rights. Then boom, it is his son that's gay and all of a sudden it matters.
This govt. shutdown (or is it slimdown?) is just non essentially things here and there, it doesn't matter. But are you missing anything? Are you part of the nutrition program for poor women and children?
The U.S. Department of Agriculture announced Saturday that if Congress can't cut a deal to fund government operations past Monday, "No additional federal funds would be available to support the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC)’s clinical services, food benefits and administrative costs."
I'm just saying that asking these questions matters in this situation, it isn't off topic. Sure, we may have to make some hard decisions and some people may suffer (and it won't be the people making the decision) but to act like this has nothing at all to do with the conversation is idiotic.
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It doesn't have anything to do with the subject at hand.
It isn't about changing a stance if it involves somebody in "you" family.
It isn't about (let's raise the debt limit so children won't starve.).
It's about the debt ceiling cannot continue to be raised. It shouldn't have been
raised this many times.
Stop increasing the spending. And if Obamao won't stop, stand with the rest of the majority
of America and don't give this arrogant marxist pig president everything he wants, in
more and more billions.
Stop the spending increases. And Obamaocare is part of that in a huge way. It can't be afforded.
Utopia is nice and all that, but this gigantic bill will soar our debt to certain economic destruction,
and all the civil strife that goes with it.
We've had it so good for so long, that all sorts of woodys don't understand that it is very, very possible
it could all come tumbling down.
Cloward-Piven. Read up on it. Weimar Republic. Read up on it.
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