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  • Just putting it out there: he is not going to be the #1 pick. JAC desperately needs a QB.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @koalabazooka said:

    Just putting it out there: he is not going to be the #1 pick. JAC desperately needs a QB.

    we may have to move up there just so that Pgh doesn't get him. I know we need a qb but what good will that do if we have to see that guy twice a year? Our nice shiny new qb will not make it through those games. God he'd be an epic hybrid in our 3-4

  • @d-bone said:

    Being a west coast UCLA fan I don't know a whole lot about him, other than what I read. To me it shows a real character issue, one every bit as bad as drugs or crime would be a character issue. Give me a guy with a motor that never turns off, before a guy with just "god given talent" any day.

    Um, this is all you need to see about Clowney- at least as good as Suh, and probably better. Not an isolated play, either. Yeah, I'm concerned about the "taking the year off" just so he doesn't get hurt- lousy attitude, but smart. He'll go no lower than #2 overall and may be a #1 if Jacksonville decides they'd rather go D instead of taking Bridgewater.

    PS don't know why the link won't work- if someone can fix it, I'd be appreciative.

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
    #24

    @hoorta said:

    Um, this is all you need to see about Clowney- at least as good as Suh, and probably better. Not an isolated play, either. Yeah, I'm concerned about the "taking the year off" just so he doesn't get hurt- lousy attitude, but smart. He'll go no lower than #2 overall and may be a #1 if Jacksonville decides they'd rather go D instead of taking Bridgewater.

    PS don't know why the link won't work- if someone can fix it, I'd be appreciative.

    I didn't see Suh take a year off before he was drafted. Guess that makes Clowney a pussy? Give me a break. This guy should be playing.

  • @koalabazooka said:

    Just putting it out there: he is not going to be the #1 pick. JAC desperately needs a QB.

    we may have to move up there just so that Pgh doesn't get him. I know we need a qb but what good will that do if we have to see that guy twice a year? Our nice shiny new qb will not make it through those games. God he'd be an epic hybrid in our 3-4

    koalabazookaK koalabazooka wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @clevfan4life said:

    we may have to move up there just so that Pgh doesn't get him. I know we need a qb but what good will that do if we have to see that guy twice a year? Our nice shiny new qb will not make it through those games. God he'd be an epic hybrid in our 3-4

    Don't be crazy, CLE's D is loaded. They need to focus on the offense this upcoming draft, with a QB 1st and foremost.

  • @hoorta said:

    Um, this is all you need to see about Clowney- at least as good as Suh, and probably better. Not an isolated play, either. Yeah, I'm concerned about the "taking the year off" just so he doesn't get hurt- lousy attitude, but smart. He'll go no lower than #2 overall and may be a #1 if Jacksonville decides they'd rather go D instead of taking Bridgewater.

    PS don't know why the link won't work- if someone can fix it, I'd be appreciative.

    I didn't see Suh take a year off before he was drafted. Guess that makes Clowney a pussy? Give me a break. This guy should be playing.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I didn't see Suh take a year off before he was drafted. Guess that makes Clowney a pussy? Give me a break. This guy should be playing.

    Good point....I remember watching him tearing up the OL of whoever they played in the Holiday Bowl that year.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I didn't see Suh take a year off before he was drafted. Guess that makes Clowney a pussy? Give me a break. This guy should be playing.

    Good point....I remember watching him tearing up the OL of whoever they played in the Holiday Bowl that year.

    koalabazookaK koalabazooka wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    Good point....I remember watching him tearing up the OL of whoever they played in the Holiday Bowl that year.

    At least Clowney doesn't kick people in the balls...

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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    The Browns will use all their picks in this draft and some from next to secure the QB they desire AND Clowny. Then JC will officially change his name to Browny. This was the secret message behind bringing back Brownie.... feel me?

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
    #29

    If he's afraid to be injured, he's playing the wrong game. I would have to question his pride.

    When will he take time off in the NFL?

    Players PLAY!

    Mike

  • SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by
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    Putting on my Clowney hat, why doesn't Teddy Twatwater sit out the rest of the year? As the projected #1 pick he's risking more scratch than Clowney.

    Canton Mike said it best - Players PLAY! Apparently there's a reason Jadevon sports the word "clown" in his last name...

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
    #31

    Who gives a shit? I don't blame him. The NCAA is full of shit because a bunch of people are making money at the risk of injury to the players. What do the players get in return? College tuition? Fucking laughable. He'd have been a top 3 pick last year, so no matter what he does this year, he has nowhere to go but down. If he quits his team, I still see him as a top 5 pick.

  • @koalabazooka said:

    Just putting it out there: he is not going to be the #1 pick. JAC desperately needs a QB.

    we may have to move up there just so that Pgh doesn't get him. I know we need a qb but what good will that do if we have to see that guy twice a year? Our nice shiny new qb will not make it through those games. God he'd be an epic hybrid in our 3-4

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #32

    @clevfan4life said:

    we may have to move up there just so that Pgh doesn't get him. I know we need a qb but what good will that do if we have to see that guy twice a year? Our nice shiny new qb will not make it through those games. God he'd be an epic hybrid in our 3-4

    I can see the Steelers "Play like Clowns for Clowney". IMHO this guy is the second coming of Mean Joe Greene- and then some. I happen to agree with some of the Pro Level Draftnicks who put Clowney #1 on their draft boards. Bridgewater isn't on the level of John Elway or Peyton Manning- but Clowney is on the level of any DL HOFer you care to name- Like Bruce Smith, Reggie White good. Mario Williams went #1, and IMHO Clowney is better.

    @koalabazooka said:

    Don't be crazy, CLE's D is loaded. They need to focus on the offense this upcoming draft, with a QB 1st and foremost.

    Unless Weeden totally plays like s**t, I don't see the Browns having enough ammunition to move up to #2 to take Clowney. But we could package a player like Sheard in the trade. Really - put Clowney on the Browns D, add a decent #2 CB, and you'd have the equivalent of any SB winning D you'd care to name.

    @canton-mike said:

    If he's afraid to be injured, he's playing the wrong game. I would have to question his pride.

    When will he take time off in the NFL?

    Players PLAY!

    Mike

    Well it hasn't been unheard of for guys who are worried about such stuff to call up Lloyds of London and take out insurance policies for the injury risk. Incidentally, the latest on ESPN has Clowney in full damage control- "I'm a team guy, I was misunderstood".

  • @clevfan4life said:

    we may have to move up there just so that Pgh doesn't get him. I know we need a qb but what good will that do if we have to see that guy twice a year? Our nice shiny new qb will not make it through those games. God he'd be an epic hybrid in our 3-4

    I can see the Steelers "Play like Clowns for Clowney". IMHO this guy is the second coming of Mean Joe Greene- and then some. I happen to agree with some of the Pro Level Draftnicks who put Clowney #1 on their draft boards. Bridgewater isn't on the level of John Elway or Peyton Manning- but Clowney is on the level of any DL HOFer you care to name- Like Bruce Smith, Reggie White good. Mario Williams went #1, and IMHO Clowney is better.

    @koalabazooka said:

    Don't be crazy, CLE's D is loaded. They need to focus on the offense this upcoming draft, with a QB 1st and foremost.

    Unless Weeden totally plays like s**t, I don't see the Browns having enough ammunition to move up to #2 to take Clowney. But we could package a player like Sheard in the trade. Really - put Clowney on the Browns D, add a decent #2 CB, and you'd have the equivalent of any SB winning D you'd care to name.

    @canton-mike said:

    If he's afraid to be injured, he's playing the wrong game. I would have to question his pride.

    When will he take time off in the NFL?

    Players PLAY!

    Mike

    Well it hasn't been unheard of for guys who are worried about such stuff to call up Lloyds of London and take out insurance policies for the injury risk. Incidentally, the latest on ESPN has Clowney in full damage control- "I'm a team guy, I was misunderstood".

    koalabazookaK koalabazooka wrote on last edited by
    #33

    @hoorta said:

    Unless Weeden totally plays like s**t, I don't see the Browns having enough ammunition to move up to #2 to take Clowney. But we could package a player like Sheard in the trade. Really - put Clowney on the Browns D, add a decent #2 CB, and you'd have the equivalent of any SB winning D you'd care to name.

    CLE doesn't need defensive help, they need offensive help! The 2000 Ravens wouldn't work in the offensive juggernaut the NFL has become.

  • Who gives a shit? I don't blame him. The NCAA is full of shit because a bunch of people are making money at the risk of injury to the players. What do the players get in return? College tuition? Fucking laughable. He'd have been a top 3 pick last year, so no matter what he does this year, he has nowhere to go but down. If he quits his team, I still see him as a top 5 pick.

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    @vaportrail said:

    Who gives a shit? I don't blame him. The NCAA is full of shit because a bunch of people are making money at the risk of injury to the players. What do the players get in return? College tuition? Fucking laughable. He'd have been a top 3 pick last year, so no matter what he does this year, he has nowhere to go but down. If he quits his team, I still see him as a top 5 pick.

    the school made a commitment to him and he to the school. the school has held up their end by providing this kid with an education for free and by showcasing him on national tv so instead of selling cars with his edumacation he'll be buying a range rover with cash even before he's drafted.

    the dude is a clown. fuck him and anyone that agrees with what he is doing is alright.

    like someone else said above: bridgewater or boyd? top 2 QB picks next year? hey fuck it. "coach i tweaked my bung hole muscle and i can't play.....for the rest of the year." how do you think the fans in louisville and clemson would feel about that when their team goes from a BCS contender to a no bid?

    there will be a rule set very soon because of this. they should cut this punk from the team and ask for his scholarship money back.

  • @vaportrail said:

    Who gives a shit? I don't blame him. The NCAA is full of shit because a bunch of people are making money at the risk of injury to the players. What do the players get in return? College tuition? Fucking laughable. He'd have been a top 3 pick last year, so no matter what he does this year, he has nowhere to go but down. If he quits his team, I still see him as a top 5 pick.

    the school made a commitment to him and he to the school. the school has held up their end by providing this kid with an education for free and by showcasing him on national tv so instead of selling cars with his edumacation he'll be buying a range rover with cash even before he's drafted.

    the dude is a clown. fuck him and anyone that agrees with what he is doing is alright.

    like someone else said above: bridgewater or boyd? top 2 QB picks next year? hey fuck it. "coach i tweaked my bung hole muscle and i can't play.....for the rest of the year." how do you think the fans in louisville and clemson would feel about that when their team goes from a BCS contender to a no bid?

    there will be a rule set very soon because of this. they should cut this punk from the team and ask for his scholarship money back.

    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
    #35

    @miktoxic said:

    the school made a commitment to him and he to the school. the school has held up their end by providing this kid with an education for free and by showcasing him on national tv so instead of selling cars with his edumacation he'll be buying a range rover with cash even before he's drafted.

    the dude is a clown. fuck him and anyone that agrees with what he is doing is alright.

    like someone else said above: bridgewater or boyd? top 2 QB picks next year? hey fuck it. "coach i tweaked my bung hole muscle and i can't play.....for the rest of the year." how do you think the fans in louisville and clemson would feel about that when their team goes from a BCS contender to a no bid?

    there will be a rule set very soon because of this. they should cut this punk from the team and ask for his scholarship money back.

    Who gives a shit? The NCAA is a joke and they're getting away with slavery. Coaches oversee some fuck up and ditch their team for the NFL all the time and there's never any repercussions for them, in fact they get rewarded with fat contracts, why should the players be held to a different standard? The NCAA needs to start giving the players real compensation if they're going to put their livelihood on the line for the school.

  • @miktoxic said:

    the school made a commitment to him and he to the school. the school has held up their end by providing this kid with an education for free and by showcasing him on national tv so instead of selling cars with his edumacation he'll be buying a range rover with cash even before he's drafted.

    the dude is a clown. fuck him and anyone that agrees with what he is doing is alright.

    like someone else said above: bridgewater or boyd? top 2 QB picks next year? hey fuck it. "coach i tweaked my bung hole muscle and i can't play.....for the rest of the year." how do you think the fans in louisville and clemson would feel about that when their team goes from a BCS contender to a no bid?

    there will be a rule set very soon because of this. they should cut this punk from the team and ask for his scholarship money back.

    Who gives a shit? The NCAA is a joke and they're getting away with slavery. Coaches oversee some fuck up and ditch their team for the NFL all the time and there's never any repercussions for them, in fact they get rewarded with fat contracts, why should the players be held to a different standard? The NCAA needs to start giving the players real compensation if they're going to put their livelihood on the line for the school.

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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    @vaportrail said:

    Who gives a shit? The NCAA is a joke and they're getting away with slavery. Coaches oversee some fuck up and ditch their team for the NFL all the time and there's never any repercussions for them, in fact they get rewarded with fat contracts, why should the players be held to a different standard? The NCAA needs to start giving the players real compensation if they're going to put their livelihood on the line for the school.

    This is wrong. Slavery??? Playing college football is privilege. Nobodys got these guys hooked to chains. They're all free to leave whenever they want. How much is a 4 year degree from Ohio State worth nowadays? These guys choose to play college football. I do think they should get a little more money and should take it easy on some of the stupid infractions. The fact is that after paying for all the other sport and after paying the coaches 99% of college football teams are losing money. As for Clowney, how can share a locker room with 70 other Gamecocks who put their "livelihood" on the line to try and win an SEC championship who will never sniff the NFL.
  • @vaportrail said:

    Who gives a shit? The NCAA is a joke and they're getting away with slavery. Coaches oversee some fuck up and ditch their team for the NFL all the time and there's never any repercussions for them, in fact they get rewarded with fat contracts, why should the players be held to a different standard? The NCAA needs to start giving the players real compensation if they're going to put their livelihood on the line for the school.

    This is wrong. Slavery??? Playing college football is privilege. Nobodys got these guys hooked to chains. They're all free to leave whenever they want. How much is a 4 year degree from Ohio State worth nowadays? These guys choose to play college football. I do think they should get a little more money and should take it easy on some of the stupid infractions. The fact is that after paying for all the other sport and after paying the coaches 99% of college football teams are losing money. As for Clowney, how can share a locker room with 70 other Gamecocks who put their "livelihood" on the line to try and win an SEC championship who will never sniff the NFL.
    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    This is wrong. Slavery??? Playing college football is privilege. Nobodys got these guys hooked to chains. They're all free to leave whenever they want. How much is a 4 year degree from Ohio State worth nowadays? These guys choose to play college football. I do think they should get a little more money and should take it easy on some of the stupid infractions. The fact is that after paying for all the other sport and after paying the coaches 99% of college football teams are losing money. As for Clowney, how can share a locker room with 70 other Gamecocks who put their "livelihood" on the line to try and win an SEC championship who will never sniff the NFL.

    Playing college football for three years is an arbitrary necessity for those with enough skill to go pro. As for the other student-athletes who won't go pro, all I can say is too bad for them. Elite-tier athletes, such as Clowney, can only hurt his draft stock, and probably more importantly, his financial security by playing this year. You're nuts if you think $90,000 for 3 years of tuition is fair compensation for the revenue that top football athletes generate.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #38

    The entitled generation believes they should be compensated for getting up in the morning.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #39

    99.9% of college athletes go pro in something other than sports.

  • XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    This is wrong. Slavery??? Playing college football is privilege. Nobodys got these guys hooked to chains. They're all free to leave whenever they want. How much is a 4 year degree from Ohio State worth nowadays? These guys choose to play college football. I do think they should get a little more money and should take it easy on some of the stupid infractions. The fact is that after paying for all the other sport and after paying the coaches 99% of college football teams are losing money. As for Clowney, how can share a locker room with 70 other Gamecocks who put their "livelihood" on the line to try and win an SEC championship who will never sniff the NFL.

    Playing college football for three years is an arbitrary necessity for those with enough skill to go pro. As for the other student-athletes who won't go pro, all I can say is too bad for them. Elite-tier athletes, such as Clowney, can only hurt his draft stock, and probably more importantly, his financial security by playing this year. You're nuts if you think $90,000 for 3 years of tuition is fair compensation for the revenue that top football athletes generate.

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #40

    @vaportrail said:

    Playing college football for three years is an arbitrary necessity for those with enough skill to go pro. As for the other student-athletes who won't go pro, all I can say is too bad for them. Elite-tier athletes, such as Clowney, can only hurt his draft stock, and probably more importantly, his financial security by playing this year. You're nuts if you think $90,000 for 3 years of tuition is fair compensation for the revenue that top football athletes generate.

    Then he should have went to Canada or took the year off. And too bad for them? I'm sure they feel lucky.
  • The entitled generation believes they should be compensated for getting up in the morning.

    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The entitled generation believes they should be compensated for getting up in the morning.

    How dare I think that NCAA football athletes should get fair compensation for bringing in millions of dollars of jersey and ad revenue, EA Sports (not anymore) and TV contracts to a school.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    99.9% of college athletes go pro in something other than sports.

    If you have talent to play at the pro level for a sustained time, chances are you don't give a shit about what classes you're taking.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Then he should have went to Canada or took the year off.

    He should be eligible for the NFL

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The entitled generation believes they should be compensated for getting up in the morning.

    How dare I think that NCAA football athletes should get fair compensation for bringing in millions of dollars of jersey and ad revenue, EA Sports (not anymore) and TV contracts to a school.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    99.9% of college athletes go pro in something other than sports.

    If you have talent to play at the pro level for a sustained time, chances are you don't give a shit about what classes you're taking.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Then he should have went to Canada or took the year off.

    He should be eligible for the NFL

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #42

    @vaportrail said:

    How dare I think that NCAA football athletes should get fair compensation for bringing in millions of dollars of jersey and ad revenue, EA Sports (not anymore) and TV contracts to a school.

    If you have talent to play at the pro level for a sustained time, chances are you don't give a shit about what classes you're taking.

    He should be eligible for the NFL

    There are only a couple cases I can think of (him being one) that wouldn't get destroyed in the NFL if they were eligible. Go ask David Pollack if he's glad he got a free education. Because football makes a few guys stars we should change the whole system? Oh and the game is for the fans.