Maualuga
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oldcow1945 said:
I read something the other day that scared me....It was an old article about Mangini trading up to grab Derrel Revis...It talked about Mangini's love of bigger, more physical corners......Can anyone say '"Malcom Jenkins"?I hope not but it wouldn't surprise me.
Me too. Then again, questions about Jenkins' long speed may put him out of consideration. IIRC, only a poorly-thrown Colt McCoy pass prevented Jenkins from getting beat deep in the bowl game.
Also, it'll be important to see how Jenkins times in the short shuttle. Mangini seems to value that drill when evaluating DB's & receivers. For instance, Darrell Revis had a very good 4.08 time, and safety Eric Smith's 3.97 at his pro day was freakish/elite.
I'm planning on doing a longer writeup on this (and how it could affect the guys we pick) sometime closer to the Combine.
Aloysius said:
Me too. Then again, questions about Jenkins' long speed may put him out of consideration. IIRC, only a poorly-thrown Colt McCoy pass prevented Jenkins from getting beat deep in the bowl game.Also, it'll be important to see how Jenkins times in the short shuttle. Mangini seems to value that drill when evaluating DB's & receivers. For instance, Darrell Revis had a very good 4.08 time, and safety Eric Smith's 3.97 at his pro day was freakish/elite.
I'm planning on doing a longer writeup on this (and how it could affect the guys we pick) sometime closer to the Combine.
Yep, And Revis had a great straight 40 time as well. 4.32 or something like that I think. I don't think Jenkins runs that well.
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Could be. But I worry about him ending up like Michael Huff: a guy who's athletic enough to play any spot in the secondary, but isn't really good at any of them.
If he runs a slow 40 at the Combine, I'd stay away from him (at least at the 5 spot).
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"This morning, in front of a ballroom packed with NFL executives, coaches and scouts, prospects stood on stage in their underwear to be measured and weighed.
When finished, they had to walk down the center aisle so everyone could get a closer look."
Man, think of how crazy that scene is. Imagine how nervous 95% of those kids are. Walking down the center aisle so everyone could get a closer look.......weird. I understand why it's necessary (millions of dollars), but it still doesn't take away from the weirdness factor.
"This morning, in front of a ballroom packed with NFL executives, coaches and scouts, prospects stood on stage in their underwear to be measured and weighed.
When finished, they had to walk down the center aisle so everyone could get a closer look."
Man, think of how crazy that scene is. Imagine how nervous 95% of those kids are. Walking down the center aisle so everyone could get a closer look.......weird. I understand why it's necessary (millions of dollars), but it still doesn't take away from the weirdness factor.
Hopefully they don't put high heels on them, that would just be too weird
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Could be. But I worry about him ending up like Michael Huff: a guy who's athletic enough to play any spot in the secondary, but isn't really good at any of them.
If he runs a slow 40 at the Combine, I'd stay away from him (at least at the 5 spot).
Aloysius said:
Could be. But I worry about him ending up like Michael Huff: a guy who's athletic enough to play any spot in the secondary, but isn't really good at any of them.If he runs a slow 40 at the Combine, I'd stay away from him (at least at the 5 spot).
I think Jenkins will be good. However, I agree that he is not the best player for us at #5. I'm on the Curry bandwagon with you on this.
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Happy to hear that, JC.
If Curry's gone at 5, Jenkins would be one of the guys I'd consider. But I need to see what he does at the Combine first.
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No, I'm not. Just don't think he's worth anything near a top 5 pick. And as Shep said, he doesn't fit "the Patriot way."
Aaron Curry does, which is part of the problem - Scott Pioli may pick him at 3.
Aloysius said:
No, I'm not. Just don't think he's worth anything near a top 5 pick. And as Shep said, he doesn't fit "the Patriot way."Aaron Curry does, which is part of the problem - Scott Pioli may pick him at 3.
I wonder how sold Pioli and whoever is coaching there next year will be sold on Tyler Thigpen. He had good numbers this year, but if the braintrust isn't sold on him--and how could you have any faith in Croyle and whichever Huard they have on the roster?--I wouldn't be shocked to see them go for one of the pretty boy QBs to be the face of the franchise.
Dennis
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Aloysius said:
No, I'm not. Just don't think he's worth anything near a top 5 pick. And as Shep said, he doesn't fit "the Patriot way."Aaron Curry does, which is part of the problem - Scott Pioli may pick him at 3.
I wonder how sold Pioli and whoever is coaching there next year will be sold on Tyler Thigpen. He had good numbers this year, but if the braintrust isn't sold on him--and how could you have any faith in Croyle and whichever Huard they have on the roster?--I wouldn't be shocked to see them go for one of the pretty boy QBs to be the face of the franchise.
Dennis
I wonder how sold Pioli and whoever is coaching there next year will be sold on Tyler Thigpen. He had good numbers this year, but if the braintrust isn't sold on him--and how could you have any faith in Croyle and whichever Huard they have on the roster?--I wouldn't be shocked to see them go for one of the pretty boy QBs to be the face of the franchise.
That's what I'm thinking. Thigpen only started having success once they switched to a spread offense, which the new head coach likely won't want to continue using (I'm assuming Herm gets the ax).
On the other hand, there's a rumor circulating that Pioli will hire his father-in-law to be his head coach. And for whatever reason, Mark Sanchez doesn't strike me as a Parcells-type player.
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This is a little unfair, but he may be too much of a celebrity type for Parcells. But you're right - it's very hard to know what Tuna wants.
In other news, Rey Maualuga was better today:
Tuesday Practice Notes: Very strong at the point of attack. He is able to move guys, and shed blocks, easily when he gets leverage. He looked stiff and flatfootted at times, but overall had a solid practice.
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@shepwrite said:
My daughter went ga-ga over Sanchez. It got weird.LOL....I know how that goes. At least in your case your Missy was gaga over somebody you could watch and enjoy.
When mine was about 13 I had to take her and a couple of her girlfriends down to Atlanta for a overnight to see a Michael Bolton concert.
Not so bad now, but at the time...yikes.
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Whether RM slides down or not, I still want to package DA & our 5th pick for additional picks...the LB I want is Clay M Jr. I do not want RM.
Mike
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Whether RM slides down or not, I still want to package DA & our 5th pick for additional picks...the LB I want is Clay M Jr. I do not want RM.
Mike
Whether RM slides down or not, I still want to package DA & our 5th pick for additional picks...the LB I want is Clay M Jr. I do not want RM.
Mike
I think a huge mistake to pass on Rey M. We should try and trade down and take him at 12 or so but We haven't had a Quality ILB in FOREVER!
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I know alot of you aren't Fans of Rey maualuga....fine and dandy....What I know is that in my lifetime the Browns have never had a great MLB....we have also never been to the superbowl.....the last time we had a good MLB was when we made it to the AFC championship game...ie Mike Johnson/ Eddie Johnson. Off the top of my head...how many superbowls Rings do Jack Lambert, Ken Norton, Teddy Bruschi....have? 11 more than the Browns have ever even come close to......3 guys, 11 rings out of 43 superbowls. Just a thought and just to name 3 guys! forget about the one ~hit Wonders, lewis, singletary and Brooks. The Identity of a defense starts and ends with the inside lineBackers...It is the reason the Cleveland Browns do not have and Identity on D!
WE have always needed a stud ILB and we have never been to the SUPERBOWl....coincidence maybe but I don't think so!
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Wednesday Practice Notes: Dominated his opponents in 1-on-1 pass rush drills. On one occasion, he tossed James Davis aside like a rag doll. Showed good recognition today in scrimmage work and had a good practice overall.
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I know alot of you aren't Fans of Rey maualuga....fine and dandy....What I know is that in my lifetime the Browns have never had a great MLB....we have also never been to the superbowl.....the last time we had a good MLB was when we made it to the AFC championship game...ie Mike Johnson/ Eddie Johnson. Off the top of my head...how many superbowls Rings do Jack Lambert, Ken Norton, Teddy Bruschi....have? 11 more than the Browns have ever even come close to......3 guys, 11 rings out of 43 superbowls. Just a thought and just to name 3 guys! forget about the one ~hit Wonders, lewis, singletary and Brooks. The Identity of a defense starts and ends with the inside lineBackers...It is the reason the Cleveland Browns do not have and Identity on D!
WE have always needed a stud ILB and we have never been to the SUPERBOWl....coincidence maybe but I don't think so!
Off the top of my head...how many superbowls Rings do Jack Lambert, Ken Norton, Teddy Bruschi....have? 11 more than the Browns have ever even come close to......3 guys, 11 rings out of 43 superbowls. Just a thought and just to name 3 guys! forget about the one ~hit Wonders, lewis, singletary and Brooks. The Identity of a defense starts and ends with the inside lineBackers...It is the reason the Cleveland Browns do not have and Identity on D!
singletary's already in the hall of fame, and ray lewis and derrick brooks likely will be once they're eligible. though they each only won one super bowl, they all lead their teams for multiple years and changed the games they played in. they were hardly one hit wonders.
also, derrick brooks is an outside backer, and i think he plays the weak side.
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I was being fascitious....but you nailed me POINT spot on! Brooks plays inside! ^ MLB's....14 superbowl rings....Browns, no MLB's of note....ZERO appearences in the superbowl....Let's go through all 43 Bowl games both winners and losers and I guarantee there will be a super list of MIDDLE linebackers! Sicks of having pussi es inside our D!
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Brooks plays outside. And of course if you look at the look at the superbowl champion teams you will see lots of good linebackers, good teams usually have good players. It doesn't mean that the MLB was THE reason the teams won. And for many of the superbowls there was no salary cap, which led to lots of teams being really stacked.
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For the reading challenged: "The Identity of a defense starts and ends with the inside lineBackers...It is the reason the Cleveland Browns do not have and Identity on D!
WE have always needed a stud ILB and we have never been to the SUPERBOWl....coincidence maybe but I don't think so! '
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For the reading challenged: "The Identity of a defense starts and ends with the inside lineBackers...It is the reason the Cleveland Browns do not have and Identity on D!
WE have always needed a stud ILB and we have never been to the SUPERBOWl....coincidence maybe but I don't think so! '
For the reading challenged: "The Identity of a defense starts and ends with the inside lineBackers...It is the reason the Cleveland Browns do not have and Identity on D!
WE have always needed a stud ILB and we have never been to the SUPERBOWl....coincidence maybe but I don't think so! '
Solon: you are operating under then (by all accounts so far, false) assumption that Maualuga is the next Singletary or Lewis.
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Brooks was the MLB when they won the superbowl in 2002, moved outside when barrett rudd was drafted. mz the pussy I'm going by the assumption that the only time the Browns have been good in my lifetime is when they had Mike and Eddie Johnson as MLB's. And to pass on Rey is a mistake because he is a difference maker. Said the same thing about Mayo, Patrick Willis and Demeco ryans!
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