start Campbell
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Agree that we do not have an emotional leader now.
It was clear that for a 2 week period we did, but no longer the case.
I mean package (Wheezy) with one or 2 draft picks..anything to get him out of Cleveland..he blows...
I think he's cost us enough draft pick-wise...
How bad is Campbell that the coaches start Weeden? I don't see how he could do worse
Wonder exactly the same thing...
What is Wheezy showing on weekdays to keep his starting job?
Seriously. It's like this team / coaching staff can't adjust to the second half. It kills me, new regime, same problems with adjustments
Actually I thought we made some great first half adjustments to the tune of 17 unanswered points.
No reason for us to adjust at the half... everything was working.
2nd half we got more conservative and then Wheezy kicked his ineptitude into overdrive...
Game Over...
Zombo said:
Yeah ... I had this thread after Week 1 and everybody called me an idiot.
True... but had nothing to do with your flip-flop on Wheezy.
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Smh, and people were actually excited about Weeden...
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Agree that we do not have an emotional leader now.
It was clear that for a 2 week period we did, but no longer the case.
I mean package (Wheezy) with one or 2 draft picks..anything to get him out of Cleveland..he blows...
I think he's cost us enough draft pick-wise...
How bad is Campbell that the coaches start Weeden? I don't see how he could do worse
Wonder exactly the same thing...
What is Wheezy showing on weekdays to keep his starting job?
Seriously. It's like this team / coaching staff can't adjust to the second half. It kills me, new regime, same problems with adjustments
Actually I thought we made some great first half adjustments to the tune of 17 unanswered points.
No reason for us to adjust at the half... everything was working.
2nd half we got more conservative and then Wheezy kicked his ineptitude into overdrive...
Game Over...
Zombo said:
Yeah ... I had this thread after Week 1 and everybody called me an idiot.
True... but had nothing to do with your flip-flop on Wheezy.
Agree that we do not have an emotional leader now.
It was clear that for a 2 week period we did, but no longer the case.
I think he's cost us enough draft pick-wise...
Wonder exactly the same thing...
What is Wheezy showing on weekdays to keep his starting job?
Actually I thought we made some great first half adjustments to the tune of 17 unanswered points.
No reason for us to adjust at the half... everything was working.
2nd half we got more conservative and then Wheezy kicked his ineptitude into overdrive...
Game Over...
True... but had nothing to do with your flip-flop on Wheezy.
Flip flop?
I buried him after the Miami game.
At some point you see enough. That was my point.
Should I apologize for rooting for him in 2012?
The look on his stupid face was enough for me today.
He's dumb.
Let's not painfully examine it.
Holmgren fucked up and Banner will fix it this week.
No time for dumb QBs in the NFl.
Z
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you think banner will fix it? benching him or trading/cutting him?
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ah look at his face right there.... did he shard himself
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I'll take Tim Tebow over Weeden right now.
I'll take Tim Tebow over Weeden right now.
Id take Tebow throwing right handed over Weeden right now.
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Sir Derpalot needs to be cut or traded if you can get anything for him. I think he brings the whole team down when he is in the game. He's like having Soju(Debbie Downer) as your QB. You notice how he was left out of that td celebration until the end? His team doesn't like him even when he throws a TD.
Campbell at least has shown in the past that he can win. Give him a shot.
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Yeah ... I had this thread after Week 1 and everybody called me an idiot.
HE DOESNT HAVE IT, HE'S NEVER GOING TO HAVE IT.
We are 9-7 with a Jason Campbell this year. Just make the move and move on.
Holmgren is the fucking idiot that went Richardson/Weeden. He can own it. Move on.
Z
Zombo said:
Yeah ... I had this thread after Week 1 and everybody called me an idiot.
HE DOESNT HAVE IT, HE'S NEVER GOING TO HAVE IT.
We are 9-7 with a Jason Campbell this year. Just make the move and move on.
Holmgren is the fucking idiot that went Richardson/Weeden. He can own it. Move on.
Z
Despite Holmgren and his collecting a huge payday while doing nothing to improve this team, this front office will move quickly to undo the mistakes of the previous regime. This ain't Randy Lerner's team anymore! Thank God for that too! At any rate, it was a waste to draft Richardson, and even more of a waste to draft Weeden in the first round! Holmgren sucked as GM in Seattle! Good coach? Yes! Horrible in the front office.
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Zombo said:
Yeah ... I had this thread after Week 1 and everybody called me an idiot.
HE DOESNT HAVE IT, HE'S NEVER GOING TO HAVE IT.
We are 9-7 with a Jason Campbell this year. Just make the move and move on.
Holmgren is the fucking idiot that went Richardson/Weeden. He can own it. Move on.
Z
You're right. I was one of the guys saying Weeden doesn't have enough time and making excuses for him. Don't know how much of an upgrade Captain Underhand throw is over Sargent Shovel Pass is but i'd be willing to go with Campbell the rest of the way out.
Good call Z.
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Zombo said:
Yeah ... I had this thread after Week 1 and everybody called me an idiot.
HE DOESNT HAVE IT, HE'S NEVER GOING TO HAVE IT.
We are 9-7 with a Jason Campbell this year. Just make the move and move on.
Holmgren is the fucking idiot that went Richardson/Weeden. He can own it. Move on.
Z
Despite Holmgren and his collecting a huge payday while doing nothing to improve this team, this front office will move quickly to undo the mistakes of the previous regime. This ain't Randy Lerner's team anymore! Thank God for that too! At any rate, it was a waste to draft Richardson, and even more of a waste to draft Weeden in the first round! Holmgren sucked as GM in Seattle! Good coach? Yes! Horrible in the front office.
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Despite Holmgren and his collecting a huge payday while doing nothing to improve this team, this front office will move quickly to undo the mistakes of the previous regime. This ain't Randy Lerner's team anymore! Thank God for that too! At any rate, it was a waste to draft Richardson, and even more of a waste to draft Weeden in the first round! Holmgren sucked as GM in Seattle! Good coach? Yes! Horrible in the front office.
If they want to move quickly, then benching Weeden is their only option. They brought in Hoyer and Campbell. Hoyer's gone so it's got to be Campbell
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Good point. I really hated it when Weeden committed pass interference in the red zone...
WSS
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Despite Holmgren and his collecting a huge payday while doing nothing to improve this team, this front office will move quickly to undo the mistakes of the previous regime. This ain't Randy Lerner's team anymore! Thank God for that too! At any rate, it was a waste to draft Richardson, and even more of a waste to draft Weeden in the first round! Holmgren sucked as GM in Seattle! Good coach? Yes! Horrible in the front office.
If they want to move quickly, then benching Weeden is their only option. They brought in Hoyer and Campbell. Hoyer's gone so it's got to be Campbell
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If they want to move quickly, then benching Weeden is their only option. They brought in Hoyer and Campbell. Hoyer's gone so it's got to be Campbell
I agree. Campbell is not a long term solution, but he is a 9 year veteran and we have a good offensive coordinator. Even he can't be as dumb as Weeden!
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Good point. I really hated it when Weeden committed pass interference in the red zone...
WSS
Good point. I really hated it when Weeden committed pass interference in the red zone...
WSS
How bout when Joe Haden threw a shovel pass to a linebacker on first down?
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that was painfull to watch.
its probably impossible to regain any support from your team, media and fans after that display of sheer dumbness..
even as as a back up it'll be tough to even be around this guy. Weeden had an opportunity to step up and all he did was step in a pile of crap.
he displayed that he not only does not have what it takes for the NFL but that he never will.
there may be a way to salvage the season but I doubt campell is gonna last for 10 games. be interesting to see who they pick up.
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Agree that we do not have an emotional leader now.
It was clear that for a 2 week period we did, but no longer the case.
I think he's cost us enough draft pick-wise...
Wonder exactly the same thing...
What is Wheezy showing on weekdays to keep his starting job?
Actually I thought we made some great first half adjustments to the tune of 17 unanswered points.
No reason for us to adjust at the half... everything was working.
2nd half we got more conservative and then Wheezy kicked his ineptitude into overdrive...
Game Over...
True... but had nothing to do with your flip-flop on Wheezy.
Flip flop?
I buried him after the Miami game.
At some point you see enough. That was my point.
Should I apologize for rooting for him in 2012?
The look on his stupid face was enough for me today.
He's dumb.
Let's not painfully examine it.
Holmgren fucked up and Banner will fix it this week.
No time for dumb QBs in the NFl.
Z
Zombo said:
Flip flop?
So I was 5 weeks too late...
Hate to think what my face would look at under similar circumstance...
Say what you like about Wheezy, but he stands in there. At least two of his better passes in the game were delivered just before getting rocked by one of the Lions' D-linemen.
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Yeah ... I had this thread after Week 1 and everybody called me an idiot.
HE DOESNT HAVE IT, HE'S NEVER GOING TO HAVE IT.
We are 9-7 with a Jason Campbell this year. Just make the move and move on.
Holmgren is the fucking idiot that went Richardson/Weeden. He can own it. Move on.
Z
Zombo said:
Holmgren is the fucking idiot that went Richardson/Weeden. He can own it. Move on.
Z
Exactly. We're a much better team this year. We just need to get rid of the last dumb moves made by the former regime.
Future is bright after we've done that.
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Zombo said:
Flip flop?
So I was 5 weeks too late...
Hate to think what my face would look at under similar circumstance...
Say what you like about Wheezy, but he stands in there. At least two of his better passes in the game were delivered just before getting rocked by one of the Lions' D-linemen.
So I was 5 weeks too late...
Hate to think what my face would look at under similar circumstance...
Say what you like about Wheezy, but he stands in there. At least two of his better passes in the game were delivered just before getting rocked by one of the Lions' D-linemen.
Technically, I think a "flip-flop" is when you support a guy, give up on him, and then go back to him. Brandon and I are through.
I will root for him as long as he is a Brown, but I don't ever see him being "the guy" in Cleveland. My mind was made up after his 16th start, I'd seen enough. Nice that you figured it out earlier, I guess this season would be easier to swallow had I.
It would have been a lot of fun to see what Hoyer could do this year. Now we have two slow thinkers with big arms. I'm in favor of starting the one that didn't throw what the internet has now proclaimed to be "The Worst Interception in the History of the NFL."
Z
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