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  • C Clevfan4life

    @lbc-mike said:

    we need a servicable QB now. hoyer next year with a number one pick is fine with me. I think our season is totally lost with Weeden. 10 more games of this shit?

    what also needs to happen is that people for a moment forget about that numbnut fucking flip and evaluate Weeden for the last two games he's been back. Yeah he did enough to come in and win in Buffalo and yeah he was doing enough to have us up 10 pts going into the half....but in both the Buffalo game and today, he misses some outrageously standard throws that would have been for big gains. There was a near touchdown today that wouldn't have counted anyway cause there was a penalty called....but he missed someone in the endzone who came off his route so blatantly open it was infuriating. And on another pass he overfuckingthrew Travis Benjamin streaking down the sideline. Now we all know Travis is "gone" if that sideline route hits him stride. There's no way that safety that was closing had a shot at him "IF" it hits him stride. So I get that Weeden was trying to do exactly that but how fucking bad do you have to be to overthrow one of the fastest mo'f'ers in all of football by like 3 or 4 yards? It wasn't "just off his fingertips". Travis was in full gallop so even Bolt wouldn't have got infront of a ball thrown that far infront. There's just a serious disconnect between Weeden and the offense. That disconnect was "instantly" gone with Hoyer under center....for the life of me i can't figure out why.

    @clevfan4life said:

    That disconnect was "instantly" gone with Hoyer under center....for the life of me i can't figure out why.

    Because Hoyer is 10 times the QB than Brandy will ever be. 😉

  • C Clevfan4life

    @miktoxic said:

    i'm not disputing that hoyer played better and the team looked better under him but as someone else has pointed out it's either we are making no adjustments or too many of them.

    i have no problem starting campbell but to bring in any of those bums you listed is just dumb. let weeden crash and burn. at least we will have known that he was never going to be the guy. also it's amazing how everyone was cheering for him saying he looked great in the first half of the game and now he's the worse QB ever to play the position.

    man some of you fans flip on and off like light switches. if we lose every game the rest of e season would you be surprised?

    not me. the air went out of the tire when hoyer went down. to make roster moves now for matt flynn or david FUCKIN carr? c'mon mark.

    I agree there's absolutely no point in giving up "any" mobility in the FA mkt or the draft next season for a band aid. Only for a guys who's sitting on the couch or bagging groceries.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I agree there's absolutely no point in giving up "any" mobility in the FA mkt or the draft next season for a band aid. Only for a guys who's sitting on the couch or bagging groceries.

    +1

    Miks hitting on all cylinders tonight, must be a new blend of whiskey...

  • I just don't want to go on the weeden train wreck this year. I know we need a QB, center, WR, Guard, CB, kicker. QB we need to fix now. all the others will be upgraded next year including QB. Mack is gone after this year.

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  • Lol, if Eli were dominating no one would be thinking about trading for him.

    The Giants suck, not Eli.

    I'd give whatever the Giants asked for him draft pick-wise.

  • What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

  • Erie DawgE Erie Dawg

    What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

    @erie-dawg said:

    What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

    Because Mack does not want to be here...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @erie-dawg said:

    What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

    Because Mack does not want to be here...

    @nickers said:

    Because Mack does not want to be here...

    Is that a guess? I listened to an interview a week or so ago and he didn't lead into nothing like that, he was positive about the whole offense, Chud, Horton, the FO...

  • This is his last year of his contract. FA next year

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    This is his last year of his contract. FA next year

    @lbc-mike said:

    This is his last year of his contract. FA next year

    just spit it out will ya...

  • Well when you provide a good reason go ahead and post it.

    But because his contract is up don't mean he is gone.

  • supposidly he is not happy.

    Erie DawgE 1 Reply

  • If only we hadn't cut Thad Lewis at the end of last year....

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • he does not want to negotiate right now for a new contract till season end

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    supposidly he is not happy.

    @lbc-mike said:

    supposidly he is not happy.

    Hmmm news to me. I'll say this good luck Alex.

    Banner won't overspend and with 2 firsts we can get another.

  • Mark OM Mark O

    Which part is laughable....You don't think the Giants would at least consider it? Why wouldn't we consider it?

    Everyone on that list is better right now today than Brandon Weetarded..

    @mark-o said:

    Which part is laughable....You don't think the Giants would at least consider it? Why wouldn't we consider it?

    Everyone on that list is better right now today than Brandon Weetarded..

    The entire concept is laughable.

    Offer two first rounders for a 32 year old QB who, for most of his career, has been considered a middle to lower tier franchise QB at best?

    I understand you were being facetious, but come on. Eli is past his prime, and his prime wasn't necessarily that good.

    I understand that essentially anything is better than what the Browns have had but shooting for mediocrity isn't the way to get them out of the cellar.

    Package the first rounders to move up and take a true franchise QB for once, or wait until the middle rounds and take a developmental to plug in behind Hoyer. Don't take a guy in the mid to late first round just to say you got a "first round QB".

    Either take the guy you believe to be the best or get a later round guy and see what we have with Hoyer.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @mark-o said:

    Which part is laughable....You don't think the Giants would at least consider it? Why wouldn't we consider it?

    Everyone on that list is better right now today than Brandon Weetarded..

    The entire concept is laughable.

    Offer two first rounders for a 32 year old QB who, for most of his career, has been considered a middle to lower tier franchise QB at best?

    I understand you were being facetious, but come on. Eli is past his prime, and his prime wasn't necessarily that good.

    I understand that essentially anything is better than what the Browns have had but shooting for mediocrity isn't the way to get them out of the cellar.

    Package the first rounders to move up and take a true franchise QB for once, or wait until the middle rounds and take a developmental to plug in behind Hoyer. Don't take a guy in the mid to late first round just to say you got a "first round QB".

    Either take the guy you believe to be the best or get a later round guy and see what we have with Hoyer.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Package the first rounders to move up and take a true franchise QB for once, or wait until the middle rounds and take a developmental to plug in behind Hoyer. Don't take a guy in the mid to late first round just to say you got a "first round QB".

    I agree 100%. It's going to be interesting to see which way the FO goes.

  • I can't wait to see what some of you say when you sober up tomorrow and read this shit.

    Trade our first rounders for Eli Manning? Are you fucking Retarded?

    Weeden is as good as gone, but we'll be riding his arm until Week 17.

    The guy is anti-clutch. He had solid games against Baltimore and Buffalo, when Chud ripped out one page of the playbook, handed it to him and said "run only these plays and nothing else, you goddamned idiot".

    The only reason we won the Buffalo game is because of a defensive TD and a special teams TD. Our offense was atrocious, predictable, coma inducing, pick your adjective.

    Weeden will never be the guy to win the game, he doesn't have the capabilities. On the other hand, he is very capable of losing the game.

    With the amount of talent we have on every side of the ball, all we need is a quick thinking game manager. We don't need a cannon armed fuckwit slinging 20 yard shovel passes. We need a guy to walk in, say "hey, this looks like a blitz", hit the check down and move on or say "hey, this looks like cover 2", hit the intermediate route and move on. That's it.

    I swear, football is not a tough sport if you just think.

    Brandon Weeden, if you're reading this, please retire. You will be doing everyone a favor, including yourself.

    Sincerely,

    Cleveland

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
    The Italian DawgPoundT 1 Reply
  • C Clevfan4life

    There's way too many good young qb's coming out this draft to give even a late 1st rounder for Eli. We have him study under Hoyer next season, that's got to be the plan. We'll likely need that 2nd 1st rounder and possibly even a 3rd 1st round pick if we get over on someone with Gordon.....on a tall Seattle style DB or if there's a megatron type WR out there.

    @clevfan4life said:

    There's way too many good young qb's coming out this draft to give even a late 1st rounder for Eli. We have him study under Hoyer next season, that's got to be the plan. We'll likely need that 2nd 1st rounder and possibly even a 3rd 1st round pick if we get over on someone with Gordon.....on a tall Seattle style DB or if there's a megatron type WR out there.

    If Gordon goes it will be because someone got over on us not the other way around. Gordon is high risk yes but high reward. We better not trade him.

    C 1 Reply

  • Everyone knows if there is a good enough team around Eli, you have a really high ceiling.

    Eli is as good as what's around him, and honestly we have a great core to put that level of QB in and build around him and be contenders in a snap.

    I understand it is a trade that would never happen, but I don't think we'd be that against it.

    Nobody in the draft is a sure thing, this is a deal I wouldn't pass on.

  • Sign Tebow for all I care, just dont let Weeden start another game. Also, I'd rather Campbell not start either.

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