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  • @lbc-mike said:

    we need a servicable QB now. hoyer next year with a number one pick is fine with me. I think our season is totally lost with Weeden. 10 more games of this shit?

    what also needs to happen is that people for a moment forget about that numbnut fucking flip and evaluate Weeden for the last two games he's been back. Yeah he did enough to come in and win in Buffalo and yeah he was doing enough to have us up 10 pts going into the half....but in both the Buffalo game and today, he misses some outrageously standard throws that would have been for big gains. There was a near touchdown today that wouldn't have counted anyway cause there was a penalty called....but he missed someone in the endzone who came off his route so blatantly open it was infuriating. And on another pass he overfuckingthrew Travis Benjamin streaking down the sideline. Now we all know Travis is "gone" if that sideline route hits him stride. There's no way that safety that was closing had a shot at him "IF" it hits him stride. So I get that Weeden was trying to do exactly that but how fucking bad do you have to be to overthrow one of the fastest mo'f'ers in all of football by like 3 or 4 yards? It wasn't "just off his fingertips". Travis was in full gallop so even Bolt wouldn't have got infront of a ball thrown that far infront. There's just a serious disconnect between Weeden and the offense. That disconnect was "instantly" gone with Hoyer under center....for the life of me i can't figure out why.

    @clevfan4life said:

    what also needs to happen is that people for a moment forget about that numbnut fucking flip and evaluate Weeden for the last two games he's been back. Yeah he did enough to come in and win in Buffalo and yeah he was doing enough to have us up 10 pts going into the half....but in both the Buffalo game and today, he misses some outrageously standard throws that would have been for big gains. There was a near touchdown today that wouldn't have counted anyway cause there was a penalty called....but he missed someone in the endzone who came off his route so blatantly open it was infuriating. And on another pass he overfuckingthrew Travis Benjamin streaking down the sideline. Now we all know Travis is "gone" if that sideline route hits him stride. There's no way that safety that was closing had a shot at him "IF" it hits him stride. So I get that Weeden was trying to do exactly that but how fucking bad do you have to be to overthrow one of the fastest mo'f'ers in all of football by like 3 or 4 yards? It wasn't "just off his fingertips". Travis was in full gallop so even Bolt wouldn't have got in front of a ball thrown that far in front. There's just a serious disconnect between Weeden and the offense. That disconnect was "instantly" gone with Hoyer under center....for the life of me i can't figure out why.

    Yes, glad you brought that up, I saw the same thing- and you can damn well bet the coaches didn't miss it either.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I can't wait to see what some of you say when you sober up tomorrow and read this shit.

    Trade our first rounders for Eli Manning? Are you fucking Retarded?

    Weeden is as good as gone, but we'll be riding his arm until Week 17.

    The guy is anti-clutch. He had solid games against Baltimore and Buffalo, when Chud ripped out one page of the playbook, handed it to him and said "run only these plays and nothing else, you goddamned idiot".

    The only reason we won the Buffalo game is because of a defensive TD and a special teams TD. Our offense was atrocious, predictable, coma inducing, pick your adjective.

    Weeden will never be the guy to win the game, he doesn't have the capabilities. On the other hand, he is very capable of losing the game.

    With the amount of talent we have on every side of the ball, all we need is a quick thinking game manager. We don't need a cannon armed fuckwit slinging 20 yard shovel passes. We need a guy to walk in, say "hey, this looks like a blitz", hit the check down and move on or say "hey, this looks like cover 2", hit the intermediate route and move on. That's it.

    I swear, football is not a tough sport if you just think.

    Brandon Weeden, if you're reading this, please retire. You will be doing everyone a favor, including yourself.

    Sincerely,

    Cleveland

    Weedend won't last out the season. Good observation about the Buffalo game, the defense and Benjamin won that game not Weeden.

  • Sorryto tell u guys but I don't believe anything is gonna change. Like I've said up untill the holy floater he was playing good enough to win. The offensive play calling was college double A at best. We did not run enough bottom line. For Christ sakes that play was on 1st down and the lions knew we were throwing. Don't like weeden fine I understand that but maybe they should be looking to run the rock a little more. The lions had there ears pinned back half way thru the 3rd and not once expected a run.

    Like i said weeden will be the starter next week. Heard it here first boys!!!

    @cdl15 said:

    Sorryto tell u guys but I don't believe anything is gonna change. Like I've said up untill the holy floater he was playing good enough to win. The offensive play calling was college double A at best. We did not run enough bottom line. For Christ sakes that play was on 1st down and the lions knew we were throwing. Don't like weeden fine I understand that but maybe they should be looking to run the rock a little more. The lions had there ears pinned back half way thru the 3rd and not once expected a run.

    Like i said weeden will be the starter next week. Heard it here first boys!!!

    I may be high ripped out of my head dude, but I've got your back on this one...

  • Sign Tebow for all I care, just dont let Weeden start another game. Also, I'd rather Campbell not start either.

    @clevelandbigdawg said:

    Sign Tebow for all I care, just dont let Weeden start another game. Also, I'd rather Campbell not start either.

    wow. i know i don't know shit about football, but you just proved with this post that you know less than me.

  • Sign Tebow for all I care, just dont let Weeden start another game. Also, I'd rather Campbell not start either.

    @clevelandbigdawg said:

    Also, I'd rather Campbell not start either.

    Why not? We haven't seen him start with a full week to prepare. He's got a chip on his shoulder about being skipped over for hoyer. A chip translates to a QB with a fire in his belly. We need that.

  • Perhaps given that he is now a 2 sport failure, Weeden can try basketball??? Why not go for 3? 😡 This guy SUCKS!!!!!!

  • I just don't want to go on the weeden train wreck this year. I know we need a QB, center, WR, Guard, CB, kicker. QB we need to fix now. all the others will be upgraded next year including QB. Mack is gone after this year.

    @lbc-mike said:

    I know we need a QB, center, WR, Guard, CB, kicker. QB we need to fix now. all the others will be upgraded next year including QB.

    Why? Why do we "have to fix now"?

    We are not just a QB away from SB Valhala... you seem to say so yourself. So why a QB now?

    We will overpay for any QB on an active roster.

    We will just pay for bringing in the wrong available QB.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Weeden is as good as gone, but we'll be riding his arm until Week 17.

    The only reason we won the Buffalo game is because of a defensive TD and a special teams TD. Our offense was atrocious, predictable, coma inducing, pick your adjective.

    With the amount of talent we have on every side of the ball, all we need is a quick thinking game manager. We don't need a cannon armed fuckwit slinging 20 yard shovel passes. We need a guy to walk in, say "hey, this looks like a blitz", hit the check down and move on or say "hey, this looks like cover 2", hit the intermediate route and move on. That's it.

    1. Yes...

    2. Knocking EJ out of the game did not hurt either.

    3. Yes... We know Hoyer is a thinker. I think McCarron is a thinker.

  • @lbc-mike said:

    I know we need a QB, center, WR, Guard, CB, kicker. QB we need to fix now. all the others will be upgraded next year including QB.

    Why? Why do we "have to fix now"?

    We are not just a QB away from SB Valhala... you seem to say so yourself. So why a QB now?

    We will overpay for any QB on an active roster.

    We will just pay for bringing in the wrong available QB.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Weeden is as good as gone, but we'll be riding his arm until Week 17.

    The only reason we won the Buffalo game is because of a defensive TD and a special teams TD. Our offense was atrocious, predictable, coma inducing, pick your adjective.

    With the amount of talent we have on every side of the ball, all we need is a quick thinking game manager. We don't need a cannon armed fuckwit slinging 20 yard shovel passes. We need a guy to walk in, say "hey, this looks like a blitz", hit the check down and move on or say "hey, this looks like cover 2", hit the intermediate route and move on. That's it.

    1. Yes...

    2. Knocking EJ out of the game did not hurt either.

    3. Yes... We know Hoyer is a thinker. I think McCarron is a thinker.

    @tour2ma said:

    Why? Why do we "have to fix now"?

    We are not just a QB away from SB Valhala... you seem to say so yourself. So why a QB now?

    We will overpay for any QB on an active roster.

    We will just pay for bringing in the wrong available QB.

    1. Yes...

    2. Knocking EJ out of the game did not hurt either.

    3. Yes... We know Hoyer is a thinker. I think McCarron is a thinker.

    I am just saying we should address the QB situation (failure) now, The rest will be addressed next season.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Why? Why do we "have to fix now"?

    We are not just a QB away from SB Valhala... you seem to say so yourself. So why a QB now?

    We will overpay for any QB on an active roster.

    We will just pay for bringing in the wrong available QB.

    1. Yes...

    2. Knocking EJ out of the game did not hurt either.

    3. Yes... We know Hoyer is a thinker. I think McCarron is a thinker.

    I am just saying we should address the QB situation (failure) now, The rest will be addressed next season.

    @lbc-mike said:

    I am just saying we should address the QB situation (failure) now, The rest will be addressed next season.

    I understand what you are saying.

    I do not understand why...

  • There are 10 games left this season, I would not say this if it was week 10 or 11 with 3 wins banked. Let the Weeden train crash and burn at that point. if we can win 6 of the next 10 I will be okay with that, actually would be pleased with that result. We cannot win with Weeden.

  • I can't wait to see what some of you say when you sober up tomorrow and read this shit.

    Trade our first rounders for Eli Manning? Are you fucking Retarded?

    Weeden is as good as gone, but we'll be riding his arm until Week 17.

    The guy is anti-clutch. He had solid games against Baltimore and Buffalo, when Chud ripped out one page of the playbook, handed it to him and said "run only these plays and nothing else, you goddamned idiot".

    The only reason we won the Buffalo game is because of a defensive TD and a special teams TD. Our offense was atrocious, predictable, coma inducing, pick your adjective.

    Weeden will never be the guy to win the game, he doesn't have the capabilities. On the other hand, he is very capable of losing the game.

    With the amount of talent we have on every side of the ball, all we need is a quick thinking game manager. We don't need a cannon armed fuckwit slinging 20 yard shovel passes. We need a guy to walk in, say "hey, this looks like a blitz", hit the check down and move on or say "hey, this looks like cover 2", hit the intermediate route and move on. That's it.

    I swear, football is not a tough sport if you just think.

    Brandon Weeden, if you're reading this, please retire. You will be doing everyone a favor, including yourself.

    Sincerely,

    Cleveland

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Brandon Weeden, if you're reading this, please retire. You will be doing everyone a favor, including yourself.

    Sincerely,

    Cleveland

    😛

  • it's been pretty much ascertained, ad nauseam, that weeds isn't the guy. yesterday he did what "he isn't the guy"' s do..........make big mistakes. he is going to have some decent

    games, some games that he will help the browns win, and some more when he will be a big factor in a Browns loss. "he isn't the guy" will be around till seasons end so to me it is

    just a matter of enjoying those games where he is halfway decent and preparing for the worst of weeds in those games he trips up in.

  • it's been pretty much ascertained, ad nauseam, that weeds isn't the guy. yesterday he did what "he isn't the guy"' s do..........make big mistakes. he is going to have some decent

    games, some games that he will help the browns win, and some more when he will be a big factor in a Browns loss. "he isn't the guy" will be around till seasons end so to me it is

    just a matter of enjoying those games where he is halfway decent and preparing for the worst of weeds in those games he trips up in.

    @slowburn said:

    it's been pretty much ascertained, ad nauseam, that weeds isn't the guy. yesterday he did what "he isn't the guy"' s do..........make big mistakes. he is going to have some decent

    games, some games that he will help the browns win, and some more when he will be a big factor in a Browns loss. "he isn't the guy" will be around till seasons end so to me it is

    just a matter of enjoying those games where he is halfway decant and preparing for the worst of weeds in those games he trips up in.

    Come join us at the tavern. We play the 'Wedden Drinking Game®' and it makes the game much more tolerable. Just make sure you have plenty of booze on hand because you have to drink whenever Brandy does something Weeden-like, so you can probably imagine just how often your drinking.........Yesterday's 30yd shovel pass on first down was the holy grail of the WDG®, and I don't remember much after that point due to the whole bottle being consumed.

  • Speaking to the play calling... Could it be that they don't have the confidence in Weeden to call certain plays.

    I heard Saban from Alabama answer a question about the play calling after a tough first half a few weeks ago. And he looked at the chick and said, it's not about play calling, it's about execution. And he was right. Coaches are calling plays that they feel is the right move. If your personnel on the field don't execute, doesn't matter what play you call.

    Weeds seems to me to be lost. If he doesn't have a guy wide open, he won't throw the ball. The TOP QB's in the league have a way of throwing people open, and hit the timing routes. Then you have the QB's in the league that have so much trust in their receivers that they have no problem tossing the 50/50 ball to a guy and let him make the play.

  • @lbc-mike said:

    I know we need a QB, center, WR, Guard, CB, kicker. QB we need to fix now. all the others will be upgraded next year including QB.

    Why? Why do we "have to fix now"?

    We are not just a QB away from SB Valhala... you seem to say so yourself. So why a QB now?

    We will overpay for any QB on an active roster.

    We will just pay for bringing in the wrong available QB.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Weeden is as good as gone, but we'll be riding his arm until Week 17.

    The only reason we won the Buffalo game is because of a defensive TD and a special teams TD. Our offense was atrocious, predictable, coma inducing, pick your adjective.

    With the amount of talent we have on every side of the ball, all we need is a quick thinking game manager. We don't need a cannon armed fuckwit slinging 20 yard shovel passes. We need a guy to walk in, say "hey, this looks like a blitz", hit the check down and move on or say "hey, this looks like cover 2", hit the intermediate route and move on. That's it.

    1. Yes...

    2. Knocking EJ out of the game did not hurt either.

    3. Yes... We know Hoyer is a thinker. I think McCarron is a thinker.

    @tour2ma said:

    Why? Why do we "have to fix now"?

    We are not just a QB away from SB Valhala... you seem to say so yourself. So why a QB now?

    We will overpay for any QB on an active roster.

    We will just pay for bringing in the wrong available QB.

    1. Yes...

    2. Knocking EJ out of the game did not hurt either.

    3. Yes... We know Hoyer is a thinker. I think McCarron is a thinker.

    I think we should try and win. Here's why. You want momentum. You want this offense to click and start to click, which was what was happening. This offense was clicking with Hoyer, weeds is like the gum on the bottom of the shoe making you stop in your tracks. You want this team to know what it's like to win and win in Cleveland. If we lose, just for the sake of losing, what does that say to players here and those that might want to come to cleveland?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Why? Why do we "have to fix now"?

    We are not just a QB away from SB Valhala... you seem to say so yourself. So why a QB now?

    We will overpay for any QB on an active roster.

    We will just pay for bringing in the wrong available QB.

    1. Yes...

    2. Knocking EJ out of the game did not hurt either.

    3. Yes... We know Hoyer is a thinker. I think McCarron is a thinker.

    I think we should try and win. Here's why. You want momentum. You want this offense to click and start to click, which was what was happening. This offense was clicking with Hoyer, weeds is like the gum on the bottom of the shoe making you stop in your tracks. You want this team to know what it's like to win and win in Cleveland. If we lose, just for the sake of losing, what does that say to players here and those that might want to come to cleveland?

    @brownskidd said:

    I think we should try and win. Here's why. You want momentum. You want this offense to click and start to click, which was what was happening. This offense was clicking with Hoyer, weeds is like the gum on the bottom of the shoe making you stop in your tracks. You want this team to know what it's like to win and win in Cleveland. If we lose, just for the sake of losing, what does that say to players here and those that might want to come to cleveland?

    I agree. Fuck that playing for drafts bullshit! You play to win the game!

  • @brownskidd said:

    I think we should try and win. Here's why. You want momentum. You want this offense to click and start to click, which was what was happening. This offense was clicking with Hoyer, weeds is like the gum on the bottom of the shoe making you stop in your tracks. You want this team to know what it's like to win and win in Cleveland. If we lose, just for the sake of losing, what does that say to players here and those that might want to come to cleveland?

    I agree. Fuck that playing for drafts bullshit! You play to win the game!

    @djdawg2010 said:

    I agree. Fuck that playing for drafts bullshit! You play to win the game!

    Exactly. The Browns have had very little success in the draft anyway. What makes this regime think they can draft well?

  • @djdawg2010 said:

    I agree. Fuck that playing for drafts bullshit! You play to win the game!

    Exactly. The Browns have had very little success in the draft anyway. What makes this regime think they can draft well?

    @browns149 said:

    Exactly. The Browns have had very little success in the draft anyway. What makes this regime think they can draft well?

    Well.... Randy Lerner no longer owns the team, so it can't be any worse. I don't care that Randy had billions. His heart wasn't in it, and that was evident by just throwing money at trying to fix the problem, and letting these other front offices run the organization like some sort of country club.

  • There are 10 games left this season, I would not say this if it was week 10 or 11 with 3 wins banked. Let the Weeden train crash and burn at that point. if we can win 6 of the next 10 I will be okay with that, actually would be pleased with that result. We cannot win with Weeden.

    @lbc-mike said:

    There are 10 games left this season, I would not say this if it was week 10 or 11 with 3 wins banked. Let the Weeden train crash and burn at that point. if we can win 6 of the next 10 I will be okay with that, actually would be pleased with that result. We cannot win with Weeden.

    Do you really think we can win 6\10 with Weeden @ qb? His record is 5-13 as a starter. HIs qbr is abysmal, as is his TD|INT ratio. Take a look at the remaining schedule, and show me where we get six wins. If we sweep the Steelers, & beat the Jets & Jags that's 4. Lotsa luck getting 2 more with Mr. Train Wreck quarterbacking this team.

  • 6 wins with Weeden is hard to imagine. 6 wins with someone else at the helm and good special teams/ defense play. yes

  • @slowburn said:

    it's been pretty much ascertained, ad nauseam, that weeds isn't the guy. yesterday he did what "he isn't the guy"' s do..........make big mistakes. he is going to have some decent

    games, some games that he will help the browns win, and some more when he will be a big factor in a Browns loss. "he isn't the guy" will be around till seasons end so to me it is

    just a matter of enjoying those games where he is halfway decant and preparing for the worst of weeds in those games he trips up in.

    Come join us at the tavern. We play the 'Wedden Drinking Game®' and it makes the game much more tolerable. Just make sure you have plenty of booze on hand because you have to drink whenever Brandy does something Weeden-like, so you can probably imagine just how often your drinking.........Yesterday's 30yd shovel pass on first down was the holy grail of the WDG®, and I don't remember much after that point due to the whole bottle being consumed.

    @d-bone said:

    😁

    Come join us at the tavern. We play the 'Wedden Drinking Game®' and it makes the game much more tolerable. Just make sure you have plenty of booze on hand because you have to drink whenever Brandy does something Weeden-like, so you can probably imagine just how often your drinking.........Yesterday's 30yd shovel pass on first down was the holy grail of the WDG®, and I don't remember much after that point due to the whole bottle being consumed.

    sounds like a plan. I'll buy the first round. 😁