TRICH traded to colts
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and everyone complains about picking OL.
any SMART football fan knows the lines on both sides of the ball are the cornerstone of a winning football franchise. if you dominate on the DL side stuff the run and put pressure on the QB most likely you'll keep the other team from scoring a lot of points.
on the other side of the ball you could have trent fucking dilfer be a super bowl champion QB if he has time to operate and a pro bowl back that you just hired from stop n shop.
The problem is that we have two first rounders, two second rounders, and a third rounder on our line.
Yes, the offensive line is crucial. But you don't have five first rounders. The only positions you need to address in the first round are center and blindside tackle. The talent drop off for the other positions is small enough that you can get a solid guard in the middle rounds. Same for your other tackle.
We don't need to address the guard position early in the draft. We need to have the same linemen start at the same position for more than two weeks in a row. The positions along the offensive line are the positions where you need the most consistency and most repetitions in order to play well.
Sure, you can find a plug and play guard here and there, but you can't find two plug and play guards and then switch them back and forth every couple of weeks.
The problem is that we have two first rounders, two second rounders, and a third rounder on our line.
You got it mixed up, CLE has one 2nd & 2 3rds (1 from PIT).
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The problem is that we have two first rounders, two second rounders, and a third rounder on our line.
You got it mixed up, CLE has one 2nd & 2 3rds (1 from PIT).
You misread what I said, I was referring to the draft positions of the players on our offensive line.You got it mixed up, CLE has one 2nd & 2 3rds (1 from PIT).
Joe Thomas and Alex Mack are first round picks.
Mitchell Schwartz and John Greco are second round picks.
Shawn Lauvao is a third round pick.
EDIT: Actually, Greco was taken with the first pick of the third round. So we have two firsts, a second, and two third rounders on our line.
So essentially, if every one of our first five picks on offensive line this year, they'd have the same average ADP as the line we currently have.
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He's played barely three weeks in a totally different offense with totally different players. Give it time.
He's played barely three weeks in a totally different offense with totally different players. Give it time.
He's played barely 12 weeks in a totally different offense with totally different players. Give it time.
Then...
He's played barely a season and a half in totally different blah blah give it up.
He's not special. He's average.
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Hey he had 4 ypc. Zomg! The second coming of Barry Sanders!
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Remember guys the Chargers was a team a he had a nice run against last year!
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Last nights game was a perfect example of TR's shortcomings. Watch Danny Woodhead (Woodhead, heh heh)
hitting holes for the Chargers. No hesitation, no dancing , just hard, downhill running inside. TR is waiting for
those "Mack truck" holes to open and stay open -- the difference between college and the NFL. In the NFL holes
open for just a moment. If the runner doesn't hit the hole hard and fast then it's too late--he avgs 3 ypc.
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The Colts bought their shiny new Ferrari for less than the owner paid, but still for a hefty price. Now there are noises and smells coming from under the hood and that huge oil spot in the driveway has them wondering why the owner was so quick to sell it................... If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
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The Colts bought their shiny new Ferrari for less than the owner paid, but still for a hefty price. Now there are noises and smells coming from under the hood and that huge oil spot in the driveway has them wondering why the owner was so quick to sell it................... If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
The Colts bought their shiny new Ferrari for less than the owner paid, but still for a hefty price. Now there are noises and smells coming from under the hood and that huge oil spot in the driveway has them wondering why the owner was so quick to sell it................... If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
Yup! They had the car fax on this busted up ferrari and still paid blue book value for him! I don't get the media's fascination with him either. They act like he's elite because he was drafted #3. They make fantasy football commercials about him like he's the next AP. My buddy picked him without asking me first. Told him it was a big mistake.
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Last nights game was a perfect example of TR's shortcomings. Watch Danny Woodhead (Woodhead, heh heh)
hitting holes for the Chargers. No hesitation, no dancing , just hard, downhill running inside. TR is waiting for
those "Mack truck" holes to open and stay open -- the difference between college and the NFL. In the NFL holes
open for just a moment. If the runner doesn't hit the hole hard and fast then it's too late--he avgs 3 ypc.
Last nights game was a perfect example of TR's shortcomings. Watch Danny Woodhead (Woodhead, heh heh)
hitting holes for the Chargers. No hesitation, no dancing , just hard, downhill running inside. TR is waiting for
those "Mack truck" holes to open and stay open -- the difference between college and the NFL. In the NFL holes
open for just a moment. If the runner doesn't hit the hole hard and fast then it's too late--he avgs 3 ypc.
I remember what Tim Couch said way back- difference from college to the NFL, I'd see a hole open up for our RB that I thought it was going to go for a TD, and then bam! it closed so fast 3 yard gain.
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A good OL isn't all about high draft picks, though. It's a unit in the truest sense of the word, more than anywhere else on the field. Five guys playing together. Coaching, continuity, and getting the right guys for the right system are key. Some of the best teams in the NFL field lines full of no-names and UDFAs. Last year when Tampa was running all over the place AND passing pretty well? Two UDFA starters and no high draft picks.
The best thing that can happen to a line besides the above is a quarterback who gets the ball out. Everybody who plays in front of Peyton, Brees, Brady, and Rodgers looks like a great pass blocker. We just saw it again with Brian Hoyer. Remember how all the lines in front of Charlie Frye were dreadful... then magically good when Anderson stepped in? Same guys. Same line.
And the Browns were running the ball quite well in the first half Sunday. Willis, Obie, and Gray had 16 carries for 71 yards. Nice holes, nice gains. Why? McGahee is getting in better condition and Obie got some carries. Our commitment to the line as been well above average with three first rounders or damn near first rounders, plus a pair of 3s in Greco and Lauvao. I'd bet the average draft slot is top 5-7.
If Hoyer's in there and Lauvao's playing, we're back to talking about how good our line is.
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what he get last night? 40 yds on 10 carries? Meh
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A good OL isn't all about high draft picks, though. It's a unit in the truest sense of the word, more than anywhere else on the field. Five guys playing together. Coaching, continuity, and getting the right guys for the right system are key. Some of the best teams in the NFL field lines full of no-names and UDFAs. Last year when Tampa was running all over the place AND passing pretty well? Two UDFA starters and no high draft picks.
The best thing that can happen to a line besides the above is a quarterback who gets the ball out. Everybody who plays in front of Peyton, Brees, Brady, and Rodgers looks like a great pass blocker. We just saw it again with Brian Hoyer. Remember how all the lines in front of Charlie Frye were dreadful... then magically good when Anderson stepped in? Same guys. Same line.
And the Browns were running the ball quite well in the first half Sunday. Willis, Obie, and Gray had 16 carries for 71 yards. Nice holes, nice gains. Why? McGahee is getting in better condition and Obie got some carries. Our commitment to the line as been well above average with three first rounders or damn near first rounders, plus a pair of 3s in Greco and Lauvao. I'd bet the average draft slot is top 5-7.
If Hoyer's in there and Lauvao's playing, we're back to talking about how good our line is.
A good OL isn't all about high draft picks, though. It's a unit in the truest sense of the word, more than anywhere else on the field. Five guys playing together. Coaching, continuity, and getting the right guys for the right system are key. Some of the best teams in the NFL field lines full of no-names and UDFAs. Last year when Tampa was running all over the place AND passing pretty well? Two UDFA starters and no high draft picks.
The best thing that can happen to a line besides the above is a quarterback who gets the ball out. Everybody who plays in front of Peyton, Brees, Brady, and Rodgers looks like a great pass blocker. We just saw it again with Brian Hoyer. Remember how all the lines in front of Charlie Frye were dreadful... then magically good when Anderson stepped in? Same guys. Same line.
And the Browns were running the ball quite well in the first half Sunday. Willis, Obie, and Gray had 16 carries for 71 yards. Nice holes, nice gains. Why? McGahee is getting in better condition and Obie got some carries. Our commitment to the line as been well above average with three first rounders or damn near first rounders, plus a pair of 3s in Greco and Lauvao. I'd bet the average draft slot is top 5-7.
If Hoyer's in there and Lauvao's playing, we're back to talking about how good our line is.
In fairness though, the 49ers have an oline of high rounders (two of them are 1st round), and have one of the best olines in the NFL if not the best.
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Since this horse is still taking a beat'n...the ypc is only part of the equation, he missed a crucial block in the 4th quarter to allow Luck to get sacked, which killed a drive. Then dropped a pass in the last couple minutes to kill another drive...
Well... our "other" first rounder improved some last nite. And SD just may have unveiled the recpie for beating the Colts... we can hope so anyway.
... he missed a crucial block in the 4th quarter to allow Luck to get sacked, which killed a drive.
Yup same as he did for us in Week 2 IIRC. Can't see beyond the first rusher... who in this case was moving outside and was engaged by the RT. So naturally he moves outside and a 2nd defender loops from outside to inside and blasts Luck. Blitz twist 101... and he cannot handle it.
Running-wise he continues to run to where the hole is supposed to be. He got lucky once last nite and I think the result was his longest run this year... 12 yards. Which means he gained 28 yds in his other 9 carries... or 3.1 ypc. When there's an anomally in the data... you throw it out.
I swear he's near-sighted...
The Colts bought their shiny new Ferrari for less than the owner paid, but still for a hefty price. Now there are noises and smells coming from under the hood and that huge oil spot in the driveway has them wondering why the owner was so quick to sell it................... If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
LMAO...Great analogy... very funny shit... along with USF's Carfax...
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what he get last night? 40 yds on 10 carries? Meh
what he get last night? 40 yds on 10 carries? Meh
40 on 18 carries I believe...irregardless...He stinks...
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10 carries 40 yards with a long of 12 so basically your average 3 ypc T Rich and they caught the D off guard or something with one run and he had an Alabama hole to run through to gain the 12 yarder.
Didn't watch the game but heard he had a crucial drop as well.
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