Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!
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Anyone watching UCLA right now to get a viewing of Hundley?
Yep. Not impressed so far.
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Plus he was mediocre at best yesterday. Definitely not a 'rock star'.
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Agree, Hoorta... fantastic is a little exceesive for most of that list... at minimum it is premature...
Johnny Manziel? Hell, he's an original.
Fran Tarkenton comes to mind. Prolly the NFL's ultimate play extender,
Zombo said:
6'1 Case Keenum (or something like that) leapfrogged TJ Yates brian-hoyer-style and gets the start this Sunday for the Texans against the Chiefs.
I know virtually nothing about him other than his height and his yuppyish name. Any thoughts on him.
Case was a "system phenom" in the eyes of most at U of H. Set all kinds of records. Caught him a few times and thought he had a chance to be a good one at the NFL level. We shall see...
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
My questions about Manziel are not about his physical abilities throwing or running the football....it comes down to his dedication to the game and his teammates. Hes gonna need to grow up real fast to make it in the NFL.
Word is that he is a total gym rat and student of a game that he dearly loves.
... Aaron Rodgers fell all the way into the 20s- I'm sure you remember.
Shep told me in another thread that Rogers did not fall to the Packers...
I didn't watch the Louisville- UCF game tonight...
I did... While I was more impressed Teddy last nite than in my prior viewing, I was still not blown away (unlike the color commentator who wanted to have Teddy's love child).
Most throws were to a wide open, primary receiver, which he hit almost without exception.
A couple were unwisely forced to primaries that were not open.
It's when his primary was not available that his performance gets very "iffy".
Shep told me in another thread that Rogers did not fall to the Packers...
To a certain extent that was a fluke- great job again Browns taking Butterfingers Braylon instead. But #24 it is. Some big names did come off the board before- OK I cheated, and had to look it up- like Antrel Rolle, Shawn Merriman, and DeMarcus Ware.
Sort of like Shep's fave Brady Quinn taking a nose dive. Let it be noted- I called that bust.
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Mariota is the saving grace for PAC-12 QBs.
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LOL at the Johnny Cash comment.
LOL at the Johnny Cash comment.
It was pretty funny considering that Johnny was a one and only and about as good as it gets.
The Man in Black stood up for a lot of people when it wasn't popular.
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Shep's love for this QB class is bordering POG level excitement which, honestly, is turning me off of the whole lot.
Take a 3rd rounder now and go for Jameis in two years.
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No doubt that Manziel can make plays. The two things that I have an issue with is maturity (sp?) and his size. He has already been hurt several times this year. He is basically a more accurate Vick. I see him being injured a lot in the NFL.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Yes, his dedication. Will he be the guy spending endless hours in the film room or the guy posing for GQ? My moneys on the latter.
Ahh so he got sent home from the Manning Camp, what a day early, so he doesn't have the dedication to be a legit NFL QB? Look I realize your jealous of the kid, I am too, but there's no reason whatsoever to bad mouth him on circumstantial evidence. Has he killed anyone? Has he roided up? Has he run a dog fighting ring? In case you were wondering no he hasn't. He's cleaner then Haden and Gordon. I realize this is America where everyone gets to bitch about everyone but the kid can play.
Have you seen him play?
It's funny before the season started my Dad absolutely hated the kid. Though he was a punk, blah, blah, blah. Every Saturday and Sunday I go and watch football with my Dad. Needless to say after the Bama game, and forgetting last year entirely evidently, he's hoping he falls down far enough in the draft so the Cowboys can pick him up. (Yes he's a Cowboy's fan, we do live in Oklahoma) Texas A&M is now appointment viewing for us purely because of Johnny Manziel.
Oh and for the dumbass who is calling him Johnny "Cash" Manizel are you really trying to insult him by comparing him to one of the greatest/badass artist of all time? I know you're going for the whole cash sign he's made when he scores a TD but do a little research into pop culture and it has something to do with Drake or some shit. I'm 25 and should probably know more about it then I should but I don't, other then that. (Grantland.com is the place to go) I just think of Johnny Cash, which is a complete compliment. Johnny Cash was a legit badass. Anyone who disagrees is a terrorist.
Feel free to zip his pants back up and wipe the man juice off your chin....Kids a douche off the field. And yes I have seen him play and I think he wilk be a complete failure in the NFL.Ahh so he got sent home from the Manning Camp, what a day early, so he doesn't have the dedication to be a legit NFL QB? Look I realize your jealous of the kid, I am too, but there's no reason whatsoever to bad mouth him on circumstantial evidence. Has he killed anyone? Has he roided up? Has he run a dog fighting ring? In case you were wondering no he hasn't. He's cleaner then Haden and Gordon. I realize this is America where everyone gets to bitch about everyone but the kid can play.
Have you seen him play?
It's funny before the season started my Dad absolutely hated the kid. Though he was a punk, blah, blah, blah. Every Saturday and Sunday I go and watch football with my Dad. Needless to say after the Bama game, and forgetting last year entirely evidently, he's hoping he falls down far enough in the draft so the Cowboys can pick him up. (Yes he's a Cowboy's fan, we do live in Oklahoma) Texas A&M is now appointment viewing for us purely because of Johnny Manziel.
Oh and for the dumbass who is calling him Johnny "Cash" Manizel are you really trying to insult him by comparing him to one of the greatest/badass artist of all time? I know you're going for the whole cash sign he's made when he scores a TD but do a little research into pop culture and it has something to do with Drake or some shit. I'm 25 and should probably know more about it then I should but I don't, other then that. (Grantland.com is the place to go) I just think of Johnny Cash, which is a complete compliment. Johnny Cash was a legit badass. Anyone who disagrees is a terrorist.
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you guys think we could take braxton with that indy pick or would we have to use our 1st? I really like Brax's potential as long as the coaching staff makes it clear to him he's not to take off running unless it's a crucial game winning situation. His mobility in the pocket plus that cannon is what I like. If he can develop into a competent pocket passer first, than let things develop infront of him by using his wheels to buy time...he could be awesome. I would love for him to play under Hoyer next year cause that's who he should emulate
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I'd also love to see us pick up Hyde in the later rounds.
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you guys think we could take braxton with that indy pick or would we have to use our 1st? I really like Brax's potential as long as the coaching staff makes it clear to him he's not to take off running unless it's a crucial game winning situation. His mobility in the pocket plus that cannon is what I like. If he can develop into a competent pocket passer first, than let things develop infront of him by using his wheels to buy time...he could be awesome. I would love for him to play under Hoyer next year cause that's who he should emulate
you guys think we could take braxton with that indy pick or would we have to use our 1st? I really like Brax's potential as long as the coaching staff makes it clear to him he's not to take off running unless it's a crucial game winning situation. His mobility in the pocket plus that cannon is what I like. If he can develop into a competent pocket passer first, than let things develop infront of him by using his wheels to buy time...he could be awesome. I would love for him to play under Hoyer next year cause that's who he should emulate
I'd rather have Guiton
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I've never wanted manziel more than after reading this crazy-town statement.johnny cash was a heroin addict, but i guess if he played football and could run around like a little bitch he'd be alright in you and your dad's eyes, huh? what did johnny cash ever do for anyone in this country except think about himself and destroy other people's lives. wow, he was a badass. every time i hear one of his songs some hick plays on the jukebox a bump into it on purpose just to skip the fucking dreadful song.
yeah he's 'walking the line' down a blazing inferno road for eternity in purgatory.
fuck him and johnny manziel. i could name you 12 DEs that'd love to introduce that kid into the NFL on his first and only sunday come next august.
he's a punk fuckin spoiled bitch. if we picked that douche i would officially quit watching football altogether.
I've never wanted manziel more than after reading this crazy-town statement.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
No doubt that Manziel can make plays. The two things that I have an issue with is maturity (sp?) and his size. He has already been hurt several times this year. He is basically a more accurate Vick. I see him being injured a lot in the NFL.
Size and injury are my biggest concerns with him. He takes way too many unnecessary hits.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Feel free to zip his pants back up and wipe the man juice off your chin....Kids a douche off the field. And yes I have seen him play and I think he wilk be a complete failure in the NFL.
Yup I must be gay for him since I said "the kid can play." Great response man. Since you aren't capable of coming up with a legitimate response I'll do it for you because I'm a nice guy. (And no that doesn't mean I'm gay for you either) He threw 2 picks today and 287 of his 454 yards and all of his passing TD's went to a NFL caliber WR in a losing effort. Sure sounds a lot like Weeden's college career to me.
As far as being a douche off the field, it would probably be easier to name all of the athletes who aren't douches off the field then the one's that are decent human beings.
Of the current athlete's I've had the chance to meet, the most respectful was, without a doubt, Dez Bryant, true story. Oh and everyone I know that met Adrian Peterson in college said he was one of the biggest pricks they've ever met. I've never heard the media say a bad thing about AP but Dez was a loose cannon. Just saying.
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So far today I have watched a little bit of Mettenberg, some Manziel and some Boyd. Currently I am watching Mariota. Obviously the big names that I didn't watch this week are Hundley and Bridgewater. Of everyone I have seen I am most impressed by Mariota. He has nice size to take those hits that the smaller players like Manziel and Bridgewater will have more trouble with. He is quick on his feet and can extend/create plays. Haven't seen the full compliment of throws yet but I have no worries that he can make everything.
Never walk away from home ahead of your axe and sword. You can't feel a battle in your bones or forsee a fight. -The Havamal (Book of Viking Wisdom) -
Jameis Winston
14/21 242 yards 2 TDs
In the first half.
Against the #3 ranked team in the nation.
And he's a freshman.
You guys keep watching Tajh, I'll watch the real QB playing tonight.
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Gardner threw for 500+ and ran for 3 TDs...
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Gardner threw for 500+ and ran for 3 TDs...
Against IU.
This is against real talent.
He's now at 3 TD's through the air and one on the ground, with 340 yards and around 65% completion.
On prime time tv, against a Top 5 ranked team.
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Oregon is rocking the pink helmets.. That's dope haha
that's "dope"? Yeah if you like penises in your ass.
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you guys think we could take braxton with that indy pick or would we have to use our 1st? I really like Brax's potential as long as the coaching staff makes it clear to him he's not to take off running unless it's a crucial game winning situation. His mobility in the pocket plus that cannon is what I like. If he can develop into a competent pocket passer first, than let things develop infront of him by using his wheels to buy time...he could be awesome. I would love for him to play under Hoyer next year cause that's who he should emulate
you guys think we could take braxton with that indy pick or would we have to use our 1st? I really like Brax's potential as long as the coaching staff makes it clear to him he's not to take off running unless it's a crucial game winning situation. His mobility in the pocket plus that cannon is what I like. If he can develop into a competent pocket passer first, than let things develop infront of him by using his wheels to buy time...he could be awesome. I would love for him to play under Hoyer next year cause that's who he should emulate
OSU QBs don't translte too well to the next level. So no.
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Johnny Cash.
I do not understand the love for the guy.
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