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  • @slowburn said:

    yea, but peyton hasn't exactly been a bust in the mile high

    Luck has done much better in his first 1.5 seasons with the Colts than Peyton. At the rate he's going, he could equal or surpass Peyton's stats. Most importantly, Irsay saved about 80 million by swapping for the rookie.

    @koalabazooka said:

    Luck has done much better in his first 1.5 seasons with the Colts than Peyton. At the rate he's going, he could equal or surpass Peyton's stats. Most importantly, Irsay saved about 80 million by swapping for the rookie.

    yea, he could but let's wait and judge until seeing how many rings they win. the talent level in indy when peyton started can't be compared to the playmakers luck inherited

  • @koalabazooka said:

    Luck has done much better in his first 1.5 seasons with the Colts than Peyton. At the rate he's going, he could equal or surpass Peyton's stats. Most importantly, Irsay saved about 80 million by swapping for the rookie.

    yea, he could but let's wait and judge until seeing how many rings they win. the talent level in indy when peyton started can't be compared to the playmakers luck inherited

    @slowburn said:

    yea, he could but let's wait and judge until seeing how many rings they win. the talent level in indy when peyton started can't be compared to the playmakers luck inherited

    Both the defenses they started out with sucked, lol.

  • not much to compare to if you are only talking about one ring.

  • Peyton also LOST a Super Bowl, it should be noted.

  • I don't trade up for any of them. Lot's of hype for a lot of question marks.

    There are a lot of decent QBs heading to the NFL, but no studs IMO. I'd rather stick with Hoyer and build around him.

    JMO

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't trade up for any of them. Lot's of hype for a lot of question marks.

    There are a lot of decent QBs heading to the NFL, but no studs IMO. I'd rather stick with Hoyer and build around him.

    JMO

    I'm also on the Hoyer bandwagon with drafting McCarron, who I think has the fewest question marks.

    Question...Would you give up one of our 1st rounders next year (& possibly a current DL or Campbell) for Kirk Cousins? I would, then I would still go after a McCarron or other QB in round 2 to 4. QB is a position we MUST firm up for the future. Anticipating his healthy return, I like Hoyer, but we need capable backup & future. For this year, I am adverse to trading for some castoff, but would love to have Cousins as he would be immediate help, IF the 'skins would let him go & we have solid depth on the DL, so who knows?

    Mike

  • Peyton also LOST a Super Bowl, it should be noted.

    @koalabazooka said:

    Peyton also LOST a Super Bowl, it should be noted.

    Elway lost 3 and brady has lost two. moot point

  • @koalabazooka said:

    Peyton also LOST a Super Bowl, it should be noted.

    Elway lost 3 and brady has lost two. moot point

    @slowburn said:

    Elway lost 3 and brady has lost two. moot point

    Montana never lost a SB (4/4). That's why he's the greatest of all time.

  • @soju said:


    that's "dope"? Yeah if you like penises in your ass.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Jameis Winston

    14/21 242 yards 2 TDs


    In the first half.

    Against the #3 ranked team in the nation.

    And he's a freshman.

    You guys keep watching Tajh, I'll watch the real QB playing tonight.

    too bad he's a frosh and won't be available for 2 more years.

    @ballpeen said:

    It was pretty funny considering that Johnny was a one and only and about as good as it gets.

    The Man in Black stood up for a lot of people when it wasn't popular.

    yep, he stood up (when they lifted him up) for all the other alcoholics and drug addicts and killers and rapists.

    only good music he did play was remakes of other artists such as NIN.

    guess i'd try to 'stand up' for something too when the devil comes knocking at your door with an invoice in his hand.

    @miktoxic said:

    only good music he did play was remakes of other artists such as NIN.

    LOL stick to football talk, dude. You're not good with music.

    johnny-cash-bird.jpg

  • @miktoxic said:

    only good music he did play was remakes of other artists such as NIN.

    LOL stick to football talk, dude. You're not good with music.

    johnny-cash-bird.jpg

    @majorbriggs said:

    LOL stick to football talk, dude. You're not good with music.

    johnny-cash-bird.jpg

    Lol, you should write a Snickers commercial about how mik gets when he talks about music.

  • dude there is no guarantee st. louis is going to draft a QB. we have fans calling for us to have hoyer as our starter next year and HE has proven less than bradford.

    if they do draft a QB it will be a mid round pick to sit behind their already franchise QB.

    if manning or rodgers went out with a torn ACL do you see their franchises drafting a QB number one the next year?

    exactly.

    @miktoxic said:

    dude there is no guarantee st. louis is going to draft a QB. we have fans calling for us to have hoyer as our starter next year and HE has proven less than bradford.

    if they do draft a QB it will be a mid round pick to sit behind their already franchise QB.

    if manning or rodgers went out with a torn ACL do you see their franchises drafting a QB number one the next year?

    exactly.

    I'd be willing to bet they will be drafting a QB high and I'm by no means a betting man. Bradford is in a contract year and the Rams were already skeptical of Bradford. This was his make or break year and he broke. They might be able to get him to a more affordable deal due to the injury however Fisher inherited Bradford and I'm sure he's seen enough to want to bring in his own guy. Throw in the fact that they have the ammo to move up with Washington's picks and it's highly likely they go after a QB high in the draft. When they made the RG3 deal they were looking to restock the cupboard but in the back of their mind they were also looking at the possibility of using it to get a replacement for Bradford. He's yet to prove that he's capable of being elite on a consistent basis despite the lack of weapons around him.

    Bradford might be the type of guy we target in the offseason in lieu of drafting a QB high, assuming they look to the draft for a new QB. Best case him and Hoyer compete and one of them proves their worth or neither steps up and we're looking at Winston. I hate the idea of waiting yet another year for a potential franchise QB and/or picking between two "retreads" coming off serious knee injuries but if we use most of our picks this year completely decking out our roster (WR, OL, RB, CB, maybe another athletic TE if there is one) and trading a few for picks for the following year for the necessary ammo if necessary, we could really be one to something.

  • Jay Cutler will be a free agent in 2014. Imagine if CLE went after him?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Johnny Cash.

    I do not understand the love for the guy.

    WSS

    I do understand. I feel that way about The Grateful Dead. I suppose you can chalk to up to either you do or either you don't.

    @ballpeen said:

    I do understand. I feel that way about The Grateful Dead. I suppose you can chalk to up to either you do or either you don't.

    Yep.

    Reminds me of the old joke.

    What did the Grateful Dead fan say when he ran out of marijuana?

    "Wow....This band sucks!!!"

    WSS

  • @slowburn said:

    Elway lost 3 and brady has lost two. moot point

    Montana never lost a SB (4/4). That's why he's the greatest of all time.

    @koalabazooka said:

    Montana never lost a SB (4/4). That's why he's the greatest of all time.

    okay, bazooka, you win. r u fucking happy now? u got the last word. btw, your avatar and board name really grate my nerves for some reason..

    the-iceman-trailer-2013-mafia-movie-offi

  • @miktoxic said:

    only good music he did play was remakes of other artists such as NIN.

    LOL stick to football talk, dude. You're not good with music.

    johnny-cash-bird.jpg

    @majorbriggs said:

    LOL stick to football talk, dude. You're not good with music.

    johnny-cash-bird.jpg

    @westside-steve said:

    Yep.

    Reminds me of the old joke.

    What did the Grateful Dead fan say when he ran out of marijuana?

    "Wow....This band sucks!!!"

    WSS

    Deads top priority wasn't the music.....it was the marketing of their brand. They were inducted into Cheech and Chong's Dopers Hall of Fame in 1997.

    Johnny Cash was the youngest ever inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame at the age of 48. He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992. He had forgotten more about music than NIN could ever comprehend when he did one of their covers. Johnny lived through the tough times he sang about. He understood the human condition and it's translation into music.

  • Please stop killing threads with shitty opinions about shitty music.

    If you want to talk about that stuff, do it in the barber shop.

  • 19 pages of QB speculation and you still want more? wtf can you possibly prophesize that already hasn't been said over and over again. fuck abunch of barber shop redirect. last time I checked you hadn't been promoted to mod status, junior. maybe you should go hang with your fellow cocksters and figure out why SC got their asses handed to them by UT Saturday.

  • 19 pages of QB speculation and you still want more? wtf can you possibly prophesize that already hasn't been said over and over again. fuck abunch of barber shop redirect. last time I checked you hadn't been promoted to mod status, junior. maybe you should go hang with your fellow cocksters and figure out why SC got their asses handed to them by UT Saturday.

    @slowburn said:

    19 pages of QB speculation and you still want more? wtf can you possibly prophesize that already hasn't been said over and over again. fuck abunch of barber shop redirect. last time I checked you hadn't been promoted to mod status, junior. maybe you should go hang with your fellow cocksters and figure out why SC got their asses handed to them by UT Saturday.

    I'm not a Gamecock fan, dickbreath.

    It doesn't matter how many pages there are, the thread is for QB discussion.

    It's not "I'm an old fuck who knows shit about football so I'll spam the thread with my shitty music opinions".

    It doesn't take a mod to realize you're useless.

    I'm not a mod because I'd ban dumb fucks who contribute absolutely nothing in a heartbeat.

  • @slowburn said:

    Elway lost 3 and brady has lost two. moot point

    Montana never lost a SB (4/4). That's why he's the greatest of all time.

    @koalabazooka said:

    Montana never lost a SB (4/4). That's why he's the greatest of all time.

    Neither did Bradshaw, also 4 of 4.

  • Colts won more games with Manning than any other team. You can't win the Super Bowl without making the playoffs. Once you get into the tourney, anything can happen. But he put them in position and went to the Big Game twice.

    The Browns will NOT be bargain shopping at quarterback. They won't sign Bradford or Foles or Mallett. They'll be drafting one in the top five, something they haven't done in 15 years. They've tried a lot of retreads, they've tried fallers (Quinn), they've tried the third round (twice), and they've gone unconventional (28-year-old rookie from a spread). In that time, most of the league has drafted their long-term, high-end quarterback.

    The Browns are likely to win 5 or 6 games max and draft in the top 10 with a 25th overall to move up, not to mention and extra third. They'll be insanely aggressive.

  • @koalabazooka said:

    Montana never lost a SB (4/4). That's why he's the greatest of all time.

    Neither did Bradshaw, also 4 of 4.

    @the-gipper said:

    Neither did Bradshaw, also 4 of 4.

    Say what you want about Bradshaw, he was a winner. He played in a different era, in which you could win by passing the ball of to Fuqua half the time.