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NRA-ILA refutes lies from anti-gun lobbyists..again and again

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    CDC Data Refutes New Anti-Gun Study's Claims

    Posted on November 1, 2013

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    Firearm-related deaths among children have decreased since the mid-1990s, but new research heralded by gun control supporters claims the opposite. A research abstract entitled United States Childhood Gun-Violence Disturbing Trends, presented during the American Academy of Pediatrics National Conference & Exhibitions by physicians Arin L. Madenci and Christopher B. Weldon, claims that from 1997 to 2009, in-hospital deaths of children resulting from gunshot wounds increased nearly 60 percent, and hospitalizations of children for gunshot wounds increased 80 percent.

    Predictably, gun control advocates and their allies in the media have taken the researchers claims as the gospel. With its usual degree of precision, MSNBC reported that the [n]umber of American children who have died from guns has spiked 60% in a decade.

    The study in question uses data from several editions of the Kids Inpatient Database (KID), which contains information on only pediatric hospitalizations. However, data reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that firearm-related deaths among persons aged 0-14 years actually decreased 39 percent from 1997 to 2009, and decreased 45 percent if the trend is carried through 2010, the most recent year for which data are available.

    One glaring mistake in the studys abstract, is that it fails to stipulate what ages it includes in its definition of children. As longtime readers of the Alert well know, anti-gun advocates have often exaggerated the number of firearm-related deaths among children by counting deaths among juveniles and young adults ages 15-19 along with those among children. However, firearm-related deaths among all persons ages 0-19 decreased 33 percent through 2009 and 37 percent through 2010.

    More importantly, the per capita rate of such deaths has decreased to an even greater extent. Among persons ages 0-14, it dropped 44 percent from 1997 to 2009, and 48 percent from 1997 to 2010, while among all persons ages 0-19 it dropped 42 percent through 2009 and 45 percent through 2010.

    Some of the media coverage of Madenci and Weldons presentation gives the impression that accidental firearm deaths among children are a growing problem. NBCs coverage was typical, highlighting the case of a three-year-old who died tragically after finding an unsecured firearm under his parents bed.

    In reality, from 1997 to 2010, the rate of firearm accident deaths decreased 62 percent among children (ages 0-14), 69 percent among ages 15-17, and 62 percent among ages 18-19.

    The CDCs data show that the country is trending in the right direction and has been for some time. The fact that this trend is occurring alongside an increase in the number of privately owned firearms should help to divorce some from the notion that more guns inherently mean more gun deaths. Further, we hope that in the future, the media will be more critical when reporting research findings that conflict so profoundly with the other available data on the subject. But we wont hold our breath.

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      any lie that helps liberals stick their noses into the rest of America's faces..

      is, to them, a good lie. Any law that helps them do that, is a good law.

      A truth or a law that -doesn't- help them with their asinine, control-other-people

      agenda? A bad truth, and a bad law.

      It's all about the power to control others. And to extract money out of their pockets.

      To buy votes, and more power.

      And that is Obamao in a nutshell.

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        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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        The NRA are vicious liars cal, and they don't give s fuck about your rights. They only ONLY care about the money there is to be made from selling you a product. Nothing more. Don't be so stupid to put lobbyists on a pedestal and glorify them as an organization that looks out for you

        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          bs.

          Without the NRA, every state would be Colorado, or D.C., or Chicago.

          Until the -Americans- say "no more".

          You made a claim, totally unsubstantiated. Not buyin it.

          Meanwhile, all 50 states in the U.S. have ccw laws passed.

          That because AMERICANS want their guns, and the NRA is our defense.

          The vicious liar, Cysko, is the president. Who said he fully supported the 2nd Amendment.

          Hell, he doesn't support our Constitution. At all.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            Yeah, stupid.

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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              Obama is a liar as well. Just like the NRA. I would piss on lapierres face if I had the opportunity. Fuck him, fuck the NRA and fuck anyone stupid enough to believe that they care about you or your rights.

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                After Newtown I will never, never have a good word to say about the NRA again. I'd just as soon see them all hung.

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  After Newtown I will never, never have a good word to say about the NRA again. I'd just as soon see them all hung.

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                  OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  After Newtown I will never, never have a good word to say about the NRA again. I'd just as soon see them all hung.

                  Amen to that.

                  "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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