Mid Year Bye Week Awards
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Lmao at Geno Smith! Keenum's outplaying him!
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As far as the browns go: buster skrine, Jordan Cameron, Brian hoyer, Jason Campbell, bark. mingo, des. Bryant.
I disagree with Pryor also, playing average and making bad throws. No surprise, IMO. I'd happily take Campbell over pryor.
Do you have an alternate for "Biggest Surprise player" besides Pryor. Like I said, I don't buy Cameron and Gordon...I expected them with their talent to play the way they are.
Hoyer would have been a very good candidate had he remained available...and continued to play the way he was playing.
Who came out of nowhere to have a good season?
Do you have an alternate for "Biggest Surprise player" besides Pryor. Like I said, I don't buy Cameron and Gordon...I expected them with their talent to play the way they are.
Hoyer would have been a very good candidate had he remained available...and continued to play the way he was playing.
Who came out of nowhere to have a good season?
Cameron is not a surprise to you or me, but to the league on a whole I think he is.
I like the choice of Skrine too, but I doubt anybody outside of Cleveland and NFL film rooms is noticing him.
Still not on board with Pryor ... If you told me before the season that the Raiders were going to start him and they would be 3-5, he would have a 72 rating and run for a lot of yards I would have said ... OK, sounds about right.
Zombo
--Jason Campbell keeps playing like this, he is up for "Best Surprise" and "Comeback Player of the Year"
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Do you have an alternate for "Biggest Surprise player" besides Pryor. Like I said, I don't buy Cameron and Gordon...I expected them with their talent to play the way they are.
Hoyer would have been a very good candidate had he remained available...and continued to play the way he was playing.
Who came out of nowhere to have a good season?
Cameron is not a surprise to you or me, but to the league on a whole I think he is.
I like the choice of Skrine too, but I doubt anybody outside of Cleveland and NFL film rooms is noticing him.
Still not on board with Pryor ... If you told me before the season that the Raiders were going to start him and they would be 3-5, he would have a 72 rating and run for a lot of yards I would have said ... OK, sounds about right.
Zombo
--Jason Campbell keeps playing like this, he is up for "Best Surprise" and "Comeback Player of the Year"
Zombo said:
Cameron is not a surprise to you or me, but to the league on a whole I think he is.
I like the choice of Skrine too, but I doubt anybody outside of Cleveland and NFL film rooms is noticing him.
Still not on board with Pryor ... If you told me before the season that the Raiders were going to start him and they would be 3-5, he would have a 72 rating and run for a lot of yards I would have said ... OK, sounds about right.
Zombo
--Jason Campbell keeps playing like this, he is up for "Best Surprise" and "Comeback Player of the Year"
What is the criteria for "Comeback Player of the Year"? I thought one had to be out like a whole year or most of a year due to injury etc., not just because you were not playing. Like Adrian Peterson, Peyton Manning who both lost a year to a major injury.
If the Comeback player can be given to someone who just was not playing, but then who is called on to do well, then yes, maybe Campbell can qualify. (but first....he must continue his solid performances, mustn't he)
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Here is data on "Comeback Player":
The National Football League Comeback Player of the Year Award refers to a number of awards that are given to an NFL player who has shown perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance.[1] The awards have been presented by several organizations, including the Associated Press, Pro Football Weekly/Pro Football Writers Association (PFW/PFWA), Sporting News, and United Press International.So, apparently "simply poor performance" can be a criteria.
Contents
[hide] 1 AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)
2 PFW/PFWA Comeback Player of the Year award (1972–present)
3 UPI Comeback Player of the Year award (1962–1969)
4 Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year award
5 References
AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)[edit]
1963 Jim Martin, K, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[2] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [3]
1964 Lenny Moore, RB, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[4] Abner Haynes, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (AFL) [5]
1965 John Brodie, QB, San Francisco 49ers (NFL);[6] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [7]
1966 Dick Bass, RB, Los Angeles Rams (NFL);[8] Babe Parilli, QB, Boston Patriots (AFL) [9]
1967-1997 No award given
1998 Doug Flutie, QB, Buffalo [10]
1999 Bryant Young, DT, San Francisco [11]
2000 Joe Johnson, DE, New Orleans [12]
2001 Garrison Hearst, RB, San Francisco[13]
2002 Tommy Maddox, QB, Pittsburgh [14]
2003 Jon Kitna, QB, Cincinnati [15]
2004 Drew Brees, QB, San Diego [16]
2005 Tedy Bruschi, LB, New England and Steve Smith, WR, Carolina [17]
2006 Chud Pennington, QB, New York Jets [18]
2007 Greg Ellis, LB, Dallas [19]
2008 Chud Pennington (2), QB, Miami[20]
2009 Tom Brady, QB, New England[21]
2010 Michael Vick, QB, Philadelphia[22]
2011 Matthew Stafford, QB, Detroit[23]
2012 Peyton Manning, QB, Denver[24] -
From 1972 to 1991, the Comeback Player of the Year award was presented by Pro Football Weekly only. PFW and the Professional Football Writers of America combined their awards in 1992.
Season Player Team Position College
1972 Earl Morrall Miami Dolphins Quarterback Michigan State
1973 Roman Gabriel Philadelphia Eagles Quarterback North Carolina State
1974 Joe Namath New York Jets Quarterback Alabama
1975 Dave Hampton Atlanta Falcons Running back Wyoming
1976 Greg Landry Detroit Lions Quarterback Massachusetts
1977 Craig Morton Denver Broncos Quarterback California
1978 John Riggins Washington Redskins Running back Kansas
1979 Larry Csonka Miami Dolphins Fullback Syracuse
1980 Jim Plunkett Oakland Raiders Quarterback Stanford
1981 Ken Anderson Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback Augustana
1982 Lyle Alzado Los Angeles Raiders Defensive end Yankton
1983 Billy Johnson Atlanta Falcons Wide receiver Widener
1984 John Stallworth Pittsburgh Steelers Wide receiver Alabama A&M
1985 No Award
1986 Joe Montana Tommy Kramer San Francisco 49ers Minnesota Vikings Quarterback
Quarterback Notre Dame Rice1987 Charles White Los Angeles Rams Running back USC
1988 Greg Bell Los Angeles Rams Running back Notre Dame
1989 Ottis Anderson New York Giants Running back Miami
1990 Barry Word Kansas City Chiefs Running back Virginia
1991 Jim McMahon Philadelphia Eagles Quarterback Brigham Young
1992 Randall Cunningham Philadelphia Eagles Quarterback UNLV
1993 Marcus Allen Kansas City Chiefs Running back USC
1994 Dan Marino Miami Dolphins Quarterback Pittsburgh
1995 Jim Harbaugh Garrison Hearst Indianapolis Colts Arizona Cardinals QuarterbackRunning Back Michigan Georgia
1996 Jerome Bettis Pittsburgh Steelers Running back Notre Dame
1997 Robert Brooks Green Bay Packers Wide receiver South Carolina
1998 Doug Flutie Buffalo Bills Quarterback Boston College
1999 Bryant Young San Francisco 49ers Defensive Tackle Notre Dame
2000 Joe Johnson New Orleans Saints Defensive End Louisville
2001 Garrison Hearst San Francisco 49ers Running Back Georgia
2002 Tommy Maddox Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback UCLA
2003 Jon Kitna Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback Central Washington
2004 Willis McGahee Buffalo Bills Running Back Miami, FL
2005 Steve Smith Tedy Bruschi Carolina Panthers New England Patriots Wide receiver Linebacker University of Utah Arizona
2006 Chud Pennington New York Jets Quarterback Marshall
2007 Greg Ellis Dallas Cowboys Defensive End North Carolina
2008 Chud Pennington Miami Dolphins Quarterback Marshall
2009 Tom Brady New England Patriots Quarterback Michigan
2010 Michael Vick Philadelphia Eagles Quarterback Virginia Tech
2011 Matthew Stafford Detroit Lions Quarterback Georgia
2012 Peyton Manning Denver Broncos Quarterback Tennessee
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Here is data on "Comeback Player":
The National Football League Comeback Player of the Year Award refers to a number of awards that are given to an NFL player who has shown perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance.[1] The awards have been presented by several organizations, including the Associated Press, Pro Football Weekly/Pro Football Writers Association (PFW/PFWA), Sporting News, and United Press International.So, apparently "simply poor performance" can be a criteria.
Contents
[hide] 1 AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)
2 PFW/PFWA Comeback Player of the Year award (1972–present)
3 UPI Comeback Player of the Year award (1962–1969)
4 Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year award
5 References
AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)[edit]
1963 Jim Martin, K, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[2] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [3]
1964 Lenny Moore, RB, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[4] Abner Haynes, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (AFL) [5]
1965 John Brodie, QB, San Francisco 49ers (NFL);[6] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [7]
1966 Dick Bass, RB, Los Angeles Rams (NFL);[8] Babe Parilli, QB, Boston Patriots (AFL) [9]
1967-1997 No award given
1998 Doug Flutie, QB, Buffalo [10]
1999 Bryant Young, DT, San Francisco [11]
2000 Joe Johnson, DE, New Orleans [12]
2001 Garrison Hearst, RB, San Francisco[13]
2002 Tommy Maddox, QB, Pittsburgh [14]
2003 Jon Kitna, QB, Cincinnati [15]
2004 Drew Brees, QB, San Diego [16]
2005 Tedy Bruschi, LB, New England and Steve Smith, WR, Carolina [17]
2006 Chud Pennington, QB, New York Jets [18]
2007 Greg Ellis, LB, Dallas [19]
2008 Chud Pennington (2), QB, Miami[20]
2009 Tom Brady, QB, New England[21]
2010 Michael Vick, QB, Philadelphia[22]
2011 Matthew Stafford, QB, Detroit[23]
2012 Peyton Manning, QB, Denver[24]Here is data on "Comeback Player":
The National Football League Comeback Player of the Year Award refers to a number of awards that are given to an NFL player who has shown perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance.[1] The awards have been presented by several organizations, including the Associated Press, Pro Football Weekly/Pro Football Writers Association (PFW/PFWA), Sporting News, and United Press International.
So, apparently "simply poor performance" can be a criteria.
Contents
[hide] 1 AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)
2 PFW/PFWA Comeback Player of the Year award (1972–present)
3 UPI Comeback Player of the Year award (1962–1969)
4 Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year award
5 References
AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)[edit]
1963 Jim Martin, K, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[2] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [3]
1964 Lenny Moore, RB, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[4] Abner Haynes, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (AFL) [5]
1965 John Brodie, QB, San Francisco 49ers (NFL);[6] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [7]
1966 Dick Bass, RB, Los Angeles Rams (NFL);[8] Babe Parilli, QB, Boston Patriots (AFL) [9]
1967-1997 No award given
1998 Doug Flutie, QB, Buffalo [10]
1999 Bryant Young, DT, San Francisco [11]
2000 Joe Johnson, DE, New Orleans [12]
2001 Garrison Hearst, RB, San Francisco[13]
2002 Tommy Maddox, QB, Pittsburgh [14]
2003 Jon Kitna, QB, Cincinnati [15]
2004 Drew Brees, QB, San Diego [16]
2005 Tedy Bruschi, LB, New England and Steve Smith, WR, Carolina [17]
2006 Chud Pennington, QB, New York Jets [18]
2007 Greg Ellis, LB, Dallas [19]
2008 Chud Pennington (2), QB, Miami[20]
2009 Tom Brady, QB, New England[21]
2010 Michael Vick, QB, Philadelphia[22]
2011 Matthew Stafford, QB, Detroit[23]
2012 Peyton Manning, QB, Denver[24]
Kitna would be a prime example of a guy that everyone thought was done and came back and had a nice season.
Did you change Chad Pennington to Chud Pennington, or is that the way they had it, lol?
Zombo
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Here is data on "Comeback Player":
The National Football League Comeback Player of the Year Award refers to a number of awards that are given to an NFL player who has shown perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance.[1] The awards have been presented by several organizations, including the Associated Press, Pro Football Weekly/Pro Football Writers Association (PFW/PFWA), Sporting News, and United Press International.
So, apparently "simply poor performance" can be a criteria.
Contents
[hide] 1 AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)
2 PFW/PFWA Comeback Player of the Year award (1972–present)
3 UPI Comeback Player of the Year award (1962–1969)
4 Sporting News Comeback Player of the Year award
5 References
AP Comeback Player of the Year award (1963–present)[edit]
1963 Jim Martin, K, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[2] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [3]
1964 Lenny Moore, RB, Baltimore Colts (NFL);[4] Abner Haynes, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (AFL) [5]
1965 John Brodie, QB, San Francisco 49ers (NFL);[6] Paul Lowe, RB, San Diego Chargers (AFL) [7]
1966 Dick Bass, RB, Los Angeles Rams (NFL);[8] Babe Parilli, QB, Boston Patriots (AFL) [9]
1967-1997 No award given
1998 Doug Flutie, QB, Buffalo [10]
1999 Bryant Young, DT, San Francisco [11]
2000 Joe Johnson, DE, New Orleans [12]
2001 Garrison Hearst, RB, San Francisco[13]
2002 Tommy Maddox, QB, Pittsburgh [14]
2003 Jon Kitna, QB, Cincinnati [15]
2004 Drew Brees, QB, San Diego [16]
2005 Tedy Bruschi, LB, New England and Steve Smith, WR, Carolina [17]
2006 Chud Pennington, QB, New York Jets [18]
2007 Greg Ellis, LB, Dallas [19]
2008 Chud Pennington (2), QB, Miami[20]
2009 Tom Brady, QB, New England[21]
2010 Michael Vick, QB, Philadelphia[22]
2011 Matthew Stafford, QB, Detroit[23]
2012 Peyton Manning, QB, Denver[24]
Kitna would be a prime example of a guy that everyone thought was done and came back and had a nice season.
Did you change Chad Pennington to Chud Pennington, or is that the way they had it, lol?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Kitna would be a prime example of a guy that everyone thought was done and came back and had a nice season.
Did you change Chud Pennington to Chud Pennington, or is that the way they had it, lol?
Zombo
I didn't change it, and that is not the way it was on the Wiki page. This site must have done an autochange on that.
But, OK then. Let's hope that Campbell revs up his campaign for Comeback Player.
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Still picking Skrine for Browns' comeback POTY. Not that anyone outside cleveland would know it.
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Still picking Skrine for Browns' comeback POTY. Not that anyone outside cleveland would know it.
Still picking Skrine for Browns' comeback POTY. Not that anyone outside cleveland would know it.
You have to have been somebody first to then "come back". Skrine is simply a young developing player who is getting better. What is this, his third year?
Campbell would be far more apt. If McGahee would miraculously get like 100 yards a game here on out he would qualify (but hell, he already won it once I see)
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Sorry, but WTF is "MOP"??? Overrated???
OK, let's add that as a category: Who has been the most Overrated Player in the NFL so far this year?
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Sorry, but WTF is "MOP"??? Overrated???
OK, let's add that as a category: Who has been the most Overrated Player in the NFL so far this year?
Sorry, but WTF is "MOP"??? Overrated???
OK, let's add that as a category: Who has been the most Overrated Player in the NFL so far this year?
Richardson...
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Sorry, but WTF is "MOP"??? Overrated???
OK, let's add that as a category: Who has been the most Overrated Player in the NFL so far this year?
Sorry, but WTF is "MOP"??? Overrated???
OK, let's add that as a category: Who has been the most Overrated Player in the NFL so far this year?
Possible Candidates:
#1 Von Miller NFL Network rated him the #9 best overall player in the NFL. What he is is a roid freak who may not be all that without the juice.
Aldon Smith. Due to issues just isn't playing.
Ray Rice...can't get free like he used to
Robert Griffin III injuries hampering his play....(his hype is so high it would be hard for anyone to live up to it)
Ed Reed....may be done. I believe he lost his starting job in Houston, NO?
Julio Jones...I personally always thought he was overrated...even when he wasn't injured
Trent Richardson....need I say more. We all, me included, had him becoming the next Emmit Smith. I guess not.
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Sorry, but WTF is "MOP"??? Overrated???
OK, let's add that as a category: Who has been the most Overrated Player in the NFL so far this year?
Possible Candidates:
#1 Von Miller NFL Network rated him the #9 best overall player in the NFL. What he is is a roid freak who may not be all that without the juice.
Aldon Smith. Due to issues just isn't playing.
Ray Rice...can't get free like he used to
Robert Griffin III injuries hampering his play....(his hype is so high it would be hard for anyone to live up to it)
Ed Reed....may be done. I believe he lost his starting job in Houston, NO?
Julio Jones...I personally always thought he was overrated...even when he wasn't injured
Trent Richardson....need I say more. We all, me included, had him becoming the next Emmit Smith. I guess not.
Possible Candidates:
#1 Von Miller NFL Network rated him the #9 best overall player in the NFL. What he is is a roid freak who may not be all that without the juice.
Aldon Smith. Due to issues just isn't playing.
Ray Rice...can't get free like he used to
Robert Griffin III injuries hampering his play....(his hype is so high it would be hard for anyone to live up to it)
Ed Reed....may be done. I believe he lost his starting job in Houston, NO?
Julio Jones...I personally always thought he was overrated...even when he wasn't injured
Trent Richardson....need I say more. We all, me included, had him becoming the next Emmit Smith. I guess not.
I disagree with Julio being overrated. Before he went down for the season with an injury, he was among the top, if not leading the league in receptions and receiving yards. Yes, the Falcons were constantly playing from behind so many of his catches may have come late in games. But you can't deny his talent and he's definitely at the very least a top 10 WR in the NFL.
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As far as the browns go: buster skrine, Jordan Cameron, Brian hoyer, Jason Campbell, bark. mingo, des. Bryant.
I disagree with Pryor also, playing average and making bad throws. No surprise, IMO. I'd happily take Campbell over pryor.
Do you have an alternate for "Biggest Surprise player" besides Pryor. Like I said, I don't buy Cameron and Gordon...I expected them with their talent to play the way they are.
Hoyer would have been a very good candidate had he remained available...and continued to play the way he was playing.
Who came out of nowhere to have a good season?
Do you have an alternate for "Biggest Surprise player" besides Pryor. Like I said, I don't buy Cameron and Gordon...I expected them with their talent to play the way they are.
Hoyer would have been a very good candidate had he remained available...and continued to play the way he was playing.
Who came out of nowhere to have a good season?
At quarterback, nick foles has played pretty solid for the most part. No interceptions I don't think in 6 games. And 127 QBR.
Granted, he got half his touchdowns in 1 game, but he's played well in other games too.
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Do you have an alternate for "Biggest Surprise player" besides Pryor. Like I said, I don't buy Cameron and Gordon...I expected them with their talent to play the way they are.
Hoyer would have been a very good candidate had he remained available...and continued to play the way he was playing.
Who came out of nowhere to have a good season?
Buster Skrine - by far and away the biggest worst-to-first story on our team, got to be up there in the league as a whole.
A few rookies are playing well above their draft status - Kiko Alonsno and Zac Stacey have already been mentioned. Mike Glennon's played well enough for a 4th round rookie thrust in to being starter.
Aaron Pryor... DOH!
MOP = Most Outstanding Player.... got it. But means there's an opening for a "Most Overrated Player" category.
Here are my nominees:
MOutP Offense: Can't argue with P. Manning
MOutP Defense: Richard Sherman CB Seattle - the speed and agility he shows for his size is amazing. 4 INTs and 8 Passes Defended
MOvrP Off: TR... "that's the list"... Honorable Mention: Dwayne "Riddick" Bowe (I've never "gotten" this guy)
MOvrP Def: Not a lot coming to mind, but Ed Reed was supposed to be a "Final Piece" and now that he's healthy, he can't play his way onto the field.
My case for Houston as most disappointing team...
With SF and Seattle in the NFC not many prognosticators picked the Falcons to go to the SB; in the AFC tons picked the Texans.
Buster Skrine - by far and away the biggest worst-to-first story on our team, got to be up there in the league as a whole.
Raises "Most Improved Player" as a category worth considering in addition to Comeback Player. Comeback carries injury connotations.
- On Offense after a disappointing rookie season Marvin Jones (WR Cinci) is having a breakout year.
- On the Defensive side Skrine vs Dimitri Patterson is an interesting pair of nominees.
But here's a couple other Comeback nominees...
- Cam Newton sizzling again after a disappointing 2012 campaign.
- Tony Gonzales... as in "I wish I had not..."
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Raises "Most Improved Player" as a category worth considering in addition to Comeback Player. Comeback carries injury connotations.
- On Offense after a disappointing rookie season Marvin Jones (WR Cinci) is having a breakout year.
- On the Defensive side Skrine vs Dimitri Patterson is an interesting pair of nominees.
But here's a couple other Comeback nominees...
- Cam Newton sizzling again after a disappointing 2012 campaign.
- Tony Gonzales... as in "I wish I had not..."
I agree. Most Improved Player is another good category....more fitting for someone like Skrine. (rather than Comeback)
But no on Cam on "Comeback" as he really doesn't fit. I think he too belongs in "Most Improved" area.
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Raises "Most Improved Player" as a category worth considering in addition to Comeback Player. Comeback carries injury connotations.
- On Offense after a disappointing rookie season Marvin Jones (WR Cinci) is having a breakout year.
- On the Defensive side Skrine vs Dimitri Patterson is an interesting pair of nominees.
But here's a couple other Comeback nominees...
- Cam Newton sizzling again after a disappointing 2012 campaign.
- Tony Gonzales... as in "I wish I had not..."
I agree. Most Improved Player is another good category....more fitting for someone like Skrine. (rather than Comeback)
But no on Cam on "Comeback" as he really doesn't fit. I think he too belongs in "Most Improved" area.
But no on Cam on "Comeback" as he really doesn't fit. I think he too belongs in "Most Improved" area.
I put Cam in the category because after a "he-will-rule-the-world" rookie year he slumped big time in his sophomore campaign.
And now he's (come)back...
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But no on Cam on "Comeback" as he really doesn't fit. I think he too belongs in "Most Improved" area.
I put Cam in the category because after a "he-will-rule-the-world" rookie year he slumped big time in his sophomore campaign.
And now he's (come)back...
I put Cam in the category because after a "he-will-rule-the-world" rookie year he slumped big time in his sophomore campaign.
And now he's (come)back...
No, I don't think he fits. There is still a "did not play" component either from injury or poor performance.
A Jake Locker may be a better candidate because he was hurt half the year last year...but I really think that Jason Campbell is the leader in the clubhouse...if he continues to play and play decent.
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