Pittsburgh Sucks
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I would expect him to have better numbers based on opportunities to catch the ball, just on the fact he has a better QB throwing him the ball wich, is not exactly rocket science there....As far as who distributes the ball. I'm sure Tannehil will progress..It's like comparing an ant to an elephant.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
To sum that all up nice and neatly........YOU SUCK!!!!!!! You are going to suck for a few years and by the time you get half way decent we will be elite. Plan on having the Cleveland Browns tea bagging you for years to come. Its not going to take long before all of the add on bandwagon Squeeler fans jump ship either.
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It's not like comparing an ant to an elephant. Mike Wallace has never been a great route runner. He's not good in traffic and his hands are not in the elite category. Now by saying that I'm not saying that Antonio Brown has elite hands BUT what he does do is run terrific routes, he's very strong in traffic and he's very elusive. He's also not to shabby in the speed department. Wallace on the other hand is other worldly fast and that's why he got paid to play in Miami. I don't care who is throwing to either receiver. Brown is better all around and honestly it's not something many people would argue. Ben on the other hand has been off this year, granted he's running for his life due to injuries on the offensive line and growing pains but even when he's had time back there his throws have been questionable at times. It's probably time you stop acting like you know a damn thing about anything outside Cleveland sports and even then I'd question your know how.
As far as the rest of the thread is concerned Ryan Clark is done, hell i think he's already acknowledging his departure by piping up on just about every NFL issue possible (A major annoyance for me and other Pittsburgh sports fans) grooming himself for the booth. Ziggy Hood is a monumentus flop and Steve McClendon is better suited at defensive end. Heyward is about the only truly bright spot on the defensive line as he's really coming in to his own. Ultimately our defensive line isn't getting pressure, Jarvis Jones was thrown in a little soon which is why he was pulled back and Worilds just isn't a starter in the NFL. Woodely has also been hit or miss. Right now the defense is the problem in Pittsburgh and the offensive line is consistently injured or underperforming. All of which translates to more losses than wins. The silver lining in all of this is the shot at a top 10, possibly top 5 draft pick and that may be all that's needed to right hte ship. In addition to a few free agents. Bottom line my Steelers are done this year, but they sure as hell aren't done long term so you all can cut that parade route short. Enjoy the dismal season for the black and GOLD and hope you can win the two games this season.
To sum that all up nice and neatly........YOU SUCK!!!!!!! You are going to suck for a few years and by the time you get half way decent we will be elite. Plan on having the Cleveland Browns tea bagging you for years to come. Its not going to take long before all of the add on bandwagon Squeeler fans jump ship either.
To sum that all up nice and neatly........YOU SUCK!!!!!!! You are going to suck for a few years and by the time you get half way decent we will be elite. Plan on having the Cleveland Browns tea bagging you for years to come. Its not going to take long before all of the add on bandwagon Squeeler fans jump ship either.
There is nothing bandwagon with Pittsburgh sports fans. We aren't used to the Steelers losing that's for sure but the team is still stocked with young talent and that's a fact. As I said previously in this thread enjoy it while it lasts because I don't expect it to last long.
Nickers I never once compared Brown to AJ Green and I guess we'll find out how Brown fairs against haden in the not so distant future. As it currently stands I'm not to worried about any of it, i wouldn't mind if they lost the rest of their games because getting a shot at an elite talent in the first round will pay dividends. I'll swing back in when you boys lose another one so I can read about yet another meltdown.
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The problem with the Steelers if their recent drafts have been putrid. They can't replace the old guys because the young guys they draft suck. They have no easy fix, I suspect they will have several years of suckiness to come for a change. And really Tomlin does suck, Lebeau and Arians did everything for him. They pushed out Arians and the offense has gotten worse, the sucked with draft picks and not he defense's age is becoming too much to overcome. Tomlin is confused on how to fix the problem. He was never a great coach to begin with, he was just put in a great situation. Now that he has adversity he is thoroughly perplexed on how to fix the problem. We should know, we have had many a coach do the samething.
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Keep feeding the Steeler trolls dumbasses.
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To sum that all up nice and neatly........YOU SUCK!!!!!!! You are going to suck for a few years and by the time you get half way decent we will be elite. Plan on having the Cleveland Browns tea bagging you for years to come. Its not going to take long before all of the add on bandwagon Squeeler fans jump ship either.
There is nothing bandwagon with Pittsburgh sports fans. We aren't used to the Steelers losing that's for sure but the team is still stocked with young talent and that's a fact. As I said previously in this thread enjoy it while it lasts because I don't expect it to last long.
Nickers I never once compared Brown to AJ Green and I guess we'll find out how Brown fairs against haden in the not so distant future. As it currently stands I'm not to worried about any of it, i wouldn't mind if they lost the rest of their games because getting a shot at an elite talent in the first round will pay dividends. I'll swing back in when you boys lose another one so I can read about yet another meltdown.
There is nothing bandwagon with Pittsburgh sports fans. We aren't used to the Steelers losing that's for sure but the team is still stocked with young talent and that's a fact. As I said previously in this thread enjoy it while it lasts because I don't expect it to last long.
Nothing bandwagon? Har har. Pirates couldn't draw squat until they started winning. Though Heinz and Three Rivers have been "theoretically" sold out forever- I've seen games where there were plenty of empty seats masquerading as fans. I still have the DVD of the the Browns 1989 blowout of the Steelers- and I can guarantee you the stadium was empty by halftime.
Hate to tell you the Browns are even more stocked with young talent, (for that matter so are the Bengals). Browns really only have one guy on the roster over 30, Jackson- Weeden is as good as gone. We have 10 picks next year including 5 in the first three rounds- as opposed to your two. Sorry- you're just wishing and hoping the future repeats the past- and that's not necessarily always the case.
Yeah- if you continue to suck and finish 4-12 or so that will unfortunately (from a Browns perspective) get you Clowney or a stud LT- but either of those aren't going to sprinkle magic pixie dust over the Steelers and instantly turn them back into a powerhouse.
Remains to be seen what will happen with Tomlin too- seems like he's having a meltdown as your season has gone down the drain.
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There is nothing bandwagon with Pittsburgh sports fans. We aren't used to the Steelers losing that's for sure but the team is still stocked with young talent and that's a fact. As I said previously in this thread enjoy it while it lasts because I don't expect it to last long.
Nothing bandwagon? Har har. Pirates couldn't draw squat until they started winning. Though Heinz and Three Rivers have been "theoretically" sold out forever- I've seen games where there were plenty of empty seats masquerading as fans. I still have the DVD of the the Browns 1989 blowout of the Steelers- and I can guarantee you the stadium was empty by halftime.
Hate to tell you the Browns are even more stocked with young talent, (for that matter so are the Bengals). Browns really only have one guy on the roster over 30, Jackson- Weeden is as good as gone. We have 10 picks next year including 5 in the first three rounds- as opposed to your two. Sorry- you're just wishing and hoping the future repeats the past- and that's not necessarily always the case.
Yeah- if you continue to suck and finish 4-12 or so that will unfortunately (from a Browns perspective) get you Clowney or a stud LT- but either of those aren't going to sprinkle magic pixie dust over the Steelers and instantly turn them back into a powerhouse.
Remains to be seen what will happen with Tomlin too- seems like he's having a meltdown as your season has gone down the drain.
Nothing bandwagon? Har har. Pirates couldn't draw squat until they started winning. Though Heinz and Three Rivers have been "theoretically" sold out forever- I've seen games where there were plenty of empty seats masquerading as fans. I still have the DVD of the the Browns 1989 blowout of the Steelers- and I can guarantee you the stadium was empty by halftime.
Hate to tell you the Browns are even more stocked with young talent, (for that matter so are the Bengals). Browns really only have one guy on the roster over 30, Jackson- Weeden is as good as gone. We have 10 picks next year including 5 in the first three rounds- as opposed to your two. Sorry- you're just wishing and hoping the future repeats the past- and that's not necessarily always the case.
Yeah- if you continue to suck and finish 4-12 or so that will unfortunately (from a Browns perspective) get you Clowney or a stud LT- but either of those aren't going to sprinkle magic pixie dust over the Steelers and instantly turn them back into a powerhouse.
Remains to be seen what will happen with Tomlin too- seems like he's having a meltdown as your season has gone down the drain.
The Pirates still had a fair amount of people going to their games considering the product they put on the field for the better part of two decades. I was 10 years old last time they had a winning season prior to this season. They'd get a good player and they'd trade him away. There was almost no reason to go to the games other than to enjoy the beautiful ball park OR if you were a baseball purist. Using the Pirates as an example for "why Pittsburgh is bandwagon" is ridiculous. I'd love to see the Indians after a similar stretch (Professional football is a TOTALLY different animal when it comes to ticket sales than the MLB so don't try and compare the Pirates to the Browns) Three Rivers was always full before Bonds and Co. left town and the same was always true for the Steelers. Either way the minute the Pirates showed a glimmer of hope that park was always full and that was before this season. Management displayed they were investing in the team for the long haul and it's paid off and that's all it was going to take to get people back in to Pirate baseball. It's one of the more proud sports franchises in Professional sports.
As far as the rest of your post is concerned I'm aware the Browns are stocked with young talent but you've got more holes than the Steelers do. You still need a franchise QB (I don't believe there is one in this draft) and I've always liked Dion Lewis but I don't think he's a 3 down back. Beyond him you have jack at the position so they'll need to address that in the draft. Gordon is nice but he's one strike away from the no, no zone just like Blackmon. The Steelers need an elite tackle and a nose tackle of similar mold to Casey Hampton. There are some guys already on the roster but they're too wet behind the ears to see the field unless the Steelers continue to lose and it's "try out" time. They've got holes but not more holes than they have draft picks and even if they come out and finish 8-8 again next season the ship will have been righted after that following season. A left tackle to keep Ben upright improves the team 5 fold and I'm not sutre why so many people continue to discredit that fact even people from my own fan base
I'd love for someone to run through the Pittsburgh roster and point out the glaring holes. McClendon will bump over to defensive end when Keisel goes. Heyward has really turned it on and they may keep hood around for vet minimum or something similar. Shark was brought in to either replace Clark or Polamalu and we still have Robert Golden who the organization loves at safety as well. William Gay is having his best season as a Steeler and yes Ike Taylor is getting old but we also still have Cortez Allen and I full expect them to draft another corner. Offensively Bell has already proven himself and that's with a very patchwork offensive line in front of him thanks to injury. I'm not certain what will happen with Sanders but if he stays around the receiving core is above average especially once Wheaton sees the field (recovering from injury) We'll need to draft a tight end soon but Heath isn't dead and still playing good football. Bottom line outside of offensive line and nose tackle/defensive end there aren't any positions were the player in the spot is connsidered a sieve or "terrible". Draft a guy like Matthews in the first round and the offense is immediatley better both through the air and on the ground. As far as Tomlin is concerned the Pittsburgh media is just looking for someone to blame and because people aren't used to seeing the Steelers lose it's getting more national attention as a direct result.
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The stoolers suck. They are old. They have limited talent, and the talent they do have is getting ready to sign up for aarp. Remember the 49ers fall from grace? It took them over a decade to become relevant again. Now its the squeel-fags turn. They will suck for a decade.
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Nothing bandwagon? Har har. Pirates couldn't draw squat until they started winning. Though Heinz and Three Rivers have been "theoretically" sold out forever- I've seen games where there were plenty of empty seats masquerading as fans. I still have the DVD of the the Browns 1989 blowout of the Steelers- and I can guarantee you the stadium was empty by halftime.
Hate to tell you the Browns are even more stocked with young talent, (for that matter so are the Bengals). Browns really only have one guy on the roster over 30, Jackson- Weeden is as good as gone. We have 10 picks next year including 5 in the first three rounds- as opposed to your two. Sorry- you're just wishing and hoping the future repeats the past- and that's not necessarily always the case.
Yeah- if you continue to suck and finish 4-12 or so that will unfortunately (from a Browns perspective) get you Clowney or a stud LT- but either of those aren't going to sprinkle magic pixie dust over the Steelers and instantly turn them back into a powerhouse.
Remains to be seen what will happen with Tomlin too- seems like he's having a meltdown as your season has gone down the drain.
The Pirates still had a fair amount of people going to their games considering the product they put on the field for the better part of two decades. I was 10 years old last time they had a winning season prior to this season. They'd get a good player and they'd trade him away. There was almost no reason to go to the games other than to enjoy the beautiful ball park OR if you were a baseball purist. Using the Pirates as an example for "why Pittsburgh is bandwagon" is ridiculous. I'd love to see the Indians after a similar stretch (Professional football is a TOTALLY different animal when it comes to ticket sales than the MLB so don't try and compare the Pirates to the Browns) Three Rivers was always full before Bonds and Co. left town and the same was always true for the Steelers. Either way the minute the Pirates showed a glimmer of hope that park was always full and that was before this season. Management displayed they were investing in the team for the long haul and it's paid off and that's all it was going to take to get people back in to Pirate baseball. It's one of the more proud sports franchises in Professional sports.
As far as the rest of your post is concerned I'm aware the Browns are stocked with young talent but you've got more holes than the Steelers do. You still need a franchise QB (I don't believe there is one in this draft) and I've always liked Dion Lewis but I don't think he's a 3 down back. Beyond him you have jack at the position so they'll need to address that in the draft. Gordon is nice but he's one strike away from the no, no zone just like Blackmon. The Steelers need an elite tackle and a nose tackle of similar mold to Casey Hampton. There are some guys already on the roster but they're too wet behind the ears to see the field unless the Steelers continue to lose and it's "try out" time. They've got holes but not more holes than they have draft picks and even if they come out and finish 8-8 again next season the ship will have been righted after that following season. A left tackle to keep Ben upright improves the team 5 fold and I'm not sutre why so many people continue to discredit that fact even people from my own fan base
I'd love for someone to run through the Pittsburgh roster and point out the glaring holes. McClendon will bump over to defensive end when Keisel goes. Heyward has really turned it on and they may keep hood around for vet minimum or something similar. Shark was brought in to either replace Clark or Polamalu and we still have Robert Golden who the organization loves at safety as well. William Gay is having his best season as a Steeler and yes Ike Taylor is getting old but we also still have Cortez Allen and I full expect them to draft another corner. Offensively Bell has already proven himself and that's with a very patchwork offensive line in front of him thanks to injury. I'm not certain what will happen with Sanders but if he stays around the receiving core is above average especially once Wheaton sees the field (recovering from injury) We'll need to draft a tight end soon but Heath isn't dead and still playing good football. Bottom line outside of offensive line and nose tackle/defensive end there aren't any positions were the player in the spot is connsidered a sieve or "terrible". Draft a guy like Matthews in the first round and the offense is immediatley better both through the air and on the ground. As far as Tomlin is concerned the Pittsburgh media is just looking for someone to blame and because people aren't used to seeing the Steelers lose it's getting more national attention as a direct result.
The Pirates still had a fair amount of people going to their games considering the product they put on the field for the better part of two decades. I was 10 years old last time they had a winning season prior to this season. They'd get a good player and they'd trade him away. There was almost no reason to go to the games other than to enjoy the beautiful ball park OR if you were a baseball purist. Using the Pirates as an example for "why Pittsburgh is bandwagon" is ridiculous. I'd love to see the Indians after a similar stretch (Professional football is a TOTALLY different animal when it comes to ticket sales than the MLB so don't try and compare the Pirates to the Browns)
Here is where I have to advise you that you are obviously young and ill informed. The Indians had a stretch of failure twice as long as the Pirates. From 1954 to 1995 they did not see a playoff appearance. Why the fuck do you think they made "Major League" about the Indians and not the Pirates?
Three Rivers was always full before Bonds and Co. left town and the same was always true for the Steelers. Either way the minute the Pirates showed a glimmer of hope that park was always full and that was before this season. Management displayed they were investing in the team for the long haul and it's paid off and that's all it was going to take to get people back in to Pirate baseball. It's one of the more proud sports franchises in Professional sports.
Good for them....not that the good/bad people of Pisstown deserved them, but it was good to see some fresh blood in the NL playoffs.
As far as the rest of your post is concerned I'm aware the Browns are stocked with young talent but you've got more holes than the Steelers do. You still need a franchise QB (I don't believe there is one in this draft) and I've always liked Dion Lewis but I don't think he's a 3 down back. Beyond him you have jack at the position so they'll need to address that in the draft.
Sorry Charlie, but you are just being Pollyanna about your team.
Yea, the Browns seem to have holes at QB and RB....but your team has so many holes that it seems that Shia LeBoeuf has been at work there. (see the Movie "Holes")
Yes, both those position do need to be addressed....and I don't think anyone has ever claimed that Dion Lewis was to be a 3 down back. At the onset of the season he was to be our "Darren Sproles" type back.
Gordon is nice but he's one strike away from the no, no zone just like Blackmon.
True....but if he keeps his nose clean he could prove to be one of the best 5-10 WRs in the game.
The Steelers need an elite tackle and a nose tackle of similar mold to Casey Hampton. There are some guys already on the roster but they're too wet behind the ears to see the field unless the Steelers continue to lose and it's "try out" time. They've got holes but not more holes than they have draft picks and even if they come out and finish 8-8 again next season the ship will have been righted after that following season.
Yea, they have the same number of holes as they have draft picks....but you are stupid if you think those holes will automatically be filled with 5th, 6th, 7th round draft picks...or even earlier picks. The Browns picked Leon McFadden CB in the 3rd round, Jamoris Slaughter S in the 5th, Armonty Bryant DE in the 6th, and Garrett Gilkey in the 7th. Do you think those guys filled the holes the Browns had at CB,S and OG? NO (Armonty was as depth choice).
If you think you can get guys in there to fill all your holes on the OL, DL, DB in the lower rounds, you are fooling yourself. You might get some help. You may even find a diamond in the rough....but the Odds are never in your favor in that crap shoot.
A left tackle to keep Ben upright improves the team 5 fold and I'm not sutre why so many people continue to discredit that fact even people from my own fan base
Well, this next draft is supposed to be a good one for LTs....so maybe that should be that team's draft priority.
I'd love for someone to run through the Pittsburgh roster and point out the glaring holes. McClendon will bump over to defensive end when Keisel goes. Heyward has really turned it on and they may keep hood around for vet minimum or something similar. Shark was brought in to either replace Clark or Polamalu and we still have Robert Golden who the organization loves at safety as well. William Gay is having his best season as a Steeler and yes Ike Taylor is getting old but we also still have Cortez Allen and I full expect them to draft another corner. Offensively Bell has already proven himself and that's with a very patchwork offensive line in front of him thanks to injury. I'm not certain what will happen with Sanders but if he stays around the receiving core is above average especially once Wheaton sees the field (recovering from injury) We'll need to draft a tight end soon but Heath isn't dead and still playing good football. Bottom line outside of offensive line and nose tackle/defensive end there aren't any positions were the player in the spot is connsidered a sieve or "terrible". Draft a guy like Matthews in the first round and the offense is immediatley better both through the air and on the ground. As far as Tomlin is concerned the Pittsburgh media is just looking for someone to blame and because people aren't used to seeing the Steelers lose it's getting more national attention as a direct result.
Well, let's put it this way.....at least you are an optimistic fan....if a deluded one. So now you know what it is like to have been a Browns fan for about the last 15 years. "This one guy in the draft is gonna make a world of difference for this team" "These one or two guys are gonna do better and show how good they are" NOT
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The stoolers suck. They are old. They have limited talent, and the talent they do have is getting ready to sign up for aarp. Remember the 49ers fall from grace? It took them over a decade to become relevant again. Now its the squeel-fags turn. They will suck for a decade.
The stoolers suck. They are old. They have limited talent, and the talent they do have is getting ready to sign up for aarp. Remember the 49ers fall from grace? It took them over a decade to become relevant again. Now its the squeel-fags turn. They will suck for a decade.
Ive been saying that to this nincompoop (Vagi-tard) For a year or 2 or more..Now they may or may not suck for the next decade...That remains to be seen...but he thinks the Steelers are stocked?..Imfaoo..yeah they were supposed to be "stocked" 2 years ago,yet. Theyre a paltry 2-6. How's the great Le'veon Bell worked outt?..How about Ben?...I seriously hope he gets his head bashed in so they can watch Landry Jones and his slo-pitch wind up...that would be nothing short of hilarious. Again,nothing but pure delusional hoping,wishing from a fan that thinks Kevin Colbert is just gonna wave pixie dust and make everything ok in one fell swoop. Cameron Heywood is not even rellevant, or even being discussed about by anyone outside of shittsburgh. So far,,,He's a bust...sorry to break it to ya,...ROFL it's getting beyond ridiculous with this tool...
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Nothing bandwagon? Har har. Pirates couldn't draw squat until they started winning. Though Heinz and Three Rivers have been "theoretically" sold out forever- I've seen games where there were plenty of empty seats masquerading as fans. I still have the DVD of the the Browns 1989 blowout of the Steelers- and I can guarantee you the stadium was empty by halftime.
Hate to tell you the Browns are even more stocked with young talent, (for that matter so are the Bengals). Browns really only have one guy on the roster over 30, Jackson- Weeden is as good as gone. We have 10 picks next year including 5 in the first three rounds- as opposed to your two. Sorry- you're just wishing and hoping the future repeats the past- and that's not necessarily always the case.
Yeah- if you continue to suck and finish 4-12 or so that will unfortunately (from a Browns perspective) get you Clowney or a stud LT- but either of those aren't going to sprinkle magic pixie dust over the Steelers and instantly turn them back into a powerhouse.
Remains to be seen what will happen with Tomlin too- seems like he's having a meltdown as your season has gone down the drain.
The Pirates still had a fair amount of people going to their games considering the product they put on the field for the better part of two decades. I was 10 years old last time they had a winning season prior to this season. They'd get a good player and they'd trade him away. There was almost no reason to go to the games other than to enjoy the beautiful ball park OR if you were a baseball purist. Using the Pirates as an example for "why Pittsburgh is bandwagon" is ridiculous. I'd love to see the Indians after a similar stretch (Professional football is a TOTALLY different animal when it comes to ticket sales than the MLB so don't try and compare the Pirates to the Browns) Three Rivers was always full before Bonds and Co. left town and the same was always true for the Steelers. Either way the minute the Pirates showed a glimmer of hope that park was always full and that was before this season. Management displayed they were investing in the team for the long haul and it's paid off and that's all it was going to take to get people back in to Pirate baseball. It's one of the more proud sports franchises in Professional sports.
As far as the rest of your post is concerned I'm aware the Browns are stocked with young talent but you've got more holes than the Steelers do. You still need a franchise QB (I don't believe there is one in this draft) and I've always liked Dion Lewis but I don't think he's a 3 down back. Beyond him you have jack at the position so they'll need to address that in the draft. Gordon is nice but he's one strike away from the no, no zone just like Blackmon. The Steelers need an elite tackle and a nose tackle of similar mold to Casey Hampton. There are some guys already on the roster but they're too wet behind the ears to see the field unless the Steelers continue to lose and it's "try out" time. They've got holes but not more holes than they have draft picks and even if they come out and finish 8-8 again next season the ship will have been righted after that following season. A left tackle to keep Ben upright improves the team 5 fold and I'm not sutre why so many people continue to discredit that fact even people from my own fan base
I'd love for someone to run through the Pittsburgh roster and point out the glaring holes. McClendon will bump over to defensive end when Keisel goes. Heyward has really turned it on and they may keep hood around for vet minimum or something similar. Shark was brought in to either replace Clark or Polamalu and we still have Robert Golden who the organization loves at safety as well. William Gay is having his best season as a Steeler and yes Ike Taylor is getting old but we also still have Cortez Allen and I full expect them to draft another corner. Offensively Bell has already proven himself and that's with a very patchwork offensive line in front of him thanks to injury. I'm not certain what will happen with Sanders but if he stays around the receiving core is above average especially once Wheaton sees the field (recovering from injury) We'll need to draft a tight end soon but Heath isn't dead and still playing good football. Bottom line outside of offensive line and nose tackle/defensive end there aren't any positions were the player in the spot is connsidered a sieve or "terrible". Draft a guy like Matthews in the first round and the offense is immediatley better both through the air and on the ground. As far as Tomlin is concerned the Pittsburgh media is just looking for someone to blame and because people aren't used to seeing the Steelers lose it's getting more national attention as a direct result.
As far as the rest of your post is concerned I'm aware the Browns are stocked with young talent but you've got more holes than the Steelers do. You still need a franchise QB (I don't believe there is one in this draft) and I've always liked Dion Lewis but I don't think he's a 3 down back. Beyond him you have jack at the position so they'll need to address that in the draft. Gordon is nice but he's one strike away from the no, no zone just like Blackmon. The Steelers need an elite tackle and a nose tackle of similar mold to Casey Hampton. There are some guys already on the roster but they're too wet behind the ears to see the field unless the Steelers continue to lose and it's "try out" time. They've got holes but not more holes than they have draft picks and even if they come out and finish 8-8 again next season the ship will have been righted after that following season. A left tackle to keep Ben upright improves the team 5 fold and I'm not sutre why so many people continue to discredit that fact even people from my own fan baseI'd love for someone to run through the Pittsburgh roster and point out the glaring holes. McClendon will bump over to defensive end when Keisel goes. Heyward has really turned it on and they may keep hood around for vet minimum or something similar. Shark was brought in to either replace Clark or Polamalu and we still have Robert Golden who the organization loves at safety as well. William Gay is having his best season as a Steeler and yes Ike Taylor is getting old but we also still have Cortez Allen and I full expect them to draft another corner. Offensively Bell has already proven himself and that's with a very patchwork offensive line in front of him thanks to injury. I'm not certain what will happen with Sanders but if he stays around the receiving core is above average especially once Wheaton sees the field (recovering from injury) We'll need to draft a tight end soon but Heath isn't dead and still playing good football. Bottom line outside of offensive line and nose tackle/defensive end there aren't any positions were the player in the spot is connsidered a sieve or "terrible". Draft a guy like Matthews in the first round and the offense is immediatley better both through the air and on the ground. As far as Tomlin is concerned the Pittsburgh media is just looking for someone to blame and because people aren't used to seeing the Steelers lose it's getting more national attention as a direct result.
So you want to downgrade this crop of college qbs? FYI, Alex Smith proved you can go 9-0 with a game manager and a stud defense. Um, retread Campbell just beat the Ravens if you didn't notice, we may not need another Aaron Rodgers, just another Smith. Regarding running backs, I'll trust Banner and Lombardi to not make the same dumb ass move Heckert & Walrus did of drafting a questionable RB with the #3 overall pick. Hmmm... everybody and their uncle was shocked when the Browns unloaded Richardson- you notice how he's doing in Indy lately? Genius move. If you haven't heard the rumors, the Browns may try to get Ben Tate, or do the smart thing and pick up a decent running back in round 3 or 4.
BTW, if your backups were so damn great @ 2-6, they'd already be starting over what you have on the field right now. So all you need is a NT, LT, and CB and all will be well in Pittsburgh. Riiiiight. Well, with their first 4 picks the Browns are going to draft the next Joe Montana, Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis, and Champ Bailey. That's about as likely.
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The stoolers suck. They are old. They have limited talent, and the talent they do have is getting ready to sign up for aarp. Remember the 49ers fall from grace? It took them over a decade to become relevant again. Now its the squeel-fags turn. They will suck for a decade.
Ive been saying that to this nincompoop (Vagi-tard) For a year or 2 or more..Now they may or may not suck for the next decade...That remains to be seen...but he thinks the Steelers are stocked?..Imfaoo..yeah they were supposed to be "stocked" 2 years ago,yet. Theyre a paltry 2-6. How's the great Le'veon Bell worked outt?..How about Ben?...I seriously hope he gets his head bashed in so they can watch Landry Jones and his slo-pitch wind up...that would be nothing short of hilarious. Again,nothing but pure delusional hoping,wishing from a fan that thinks Kevin Colbert is just gonna wave pixie dust and make everything ok in one fell swoop. Cameron Heywood is not even rellevant, or even being discussed about by anyone outside of shittsburgh. So far,,,He's a bust...sorry to break it to ya,...ROFL it's getting beyond ridiculous with this tool...
Ive been saying that to this nincompoop (Vagi-tard) For a year or 2 or more..Now they may or may not suck for the next decade...That remains to be seen...but he thinks the Steelers are stocked?..Imfaoo..yeah they were supposed to be "stocked" 2 years ago,yet. Theyre a paltry 2-6. How's the great Le'veon Bell worked outt?..How about Ben?...I seriously hope he gets his head bashed in so they can watch Landry Jones and his slo-pitch wind up...that would be nothing short of hilarious. Again,nothing but pure delusional hoping,wishing from a fan that thinks Kevin Colbert is just gonna wave pixie dust and make everything ok in one fell swoop. Cameron Heywood is not even rellevant, or even being discussed about by anyone outside of shittsburgh. So far,,,He's a bust...sorry to break it to ya,...ROFL it's getting beyond ridiculous with this tool...
You claim that Heyward is a bust. He says Heyward is doing just great.....so, who is correct?
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As far as the rest of your post is concerned I'm aware the Browns are stocked with young talent but you've got more holes than the Steelers do. You still need a franchise QB (I don't believe there is one in this draft) and I've always liked Dion Lewis but I don't think he's a 3 down back. Beyond him you have jack at the position so they'll need to address that in the draft. Gordon is nice but he's one strike away from the no, no zone just like Blackmon. The Steelers need an elite tackle and a nose tackle of similar mold to Casey Hampton. There are some guys already on the roster but they're too wet behind the ears to see the field unless the Steelers continue to lose and it's "try out" time. They've got holes but not more holes than they have draft picks and even if they come out and finish 8-8 again next season the ship will have been righted after that following season. A left tackle to keep Ben upright improves the team 5 fold and I'm not sutre why so many people continue to discredit that fact even people from my own fan base
I'd love for someone to run through the Pittsburgh roster and point out the glaring holes. McClendon will bump over to defensive end when Keisel goes. Heyward has really turned it on and they may keep hood around for vet minimum or something similar. Shark was brought in to either replace Clark or Polamalu and we still have Robert Golden who the organization loves at safety as well. William Gay is having his best season as a Steeler and yes Ike Taylor is getting old but we also still have Cortez Allen and I full expect them to draft another corner. Offensively Bell has already proven himself and that's with a very patchwork offensive line in front of him thanks to injury. I'm not certain what will happen with Sanders but if he stays around the receiving core is above average especially once Wheaton sees the field (recovering from injury) We'll need to draft a tight end soon but Heath isn't dead and still playing good football. Bottom line outside of offensive line and nose tackle/defensive end there aren't any positions were the player in the spot is connsidered a sieve or "terrible". Draft a guy like Matthews in the first round and the offense is immediatley better both through the air and on the ground. As far as Tomlin is concerned the Pittsburgh media is just looking for someone to blame and because people aren't used to seeing the Steelers lose it's getting more national attention as a direct result.
So you want to downgrade this crop of college qbs? FYI, Alex Smith proved you can go 9-0 with a game manager and a stud defense. Um, retread Campbell just beat the Ravens if you didn't notice, we may not need another Aaron Rodgers, just another Smith. Regarding running backs, I'll trust Banner and Lombardi to not make the same dumb ass move Heckert & Walrus did of drafting a questionable RB with the #3 overall pick. Hmmm... everybody and their uncle was shocked when the Browns unloaded Richardson- you notice how he's doing in Indy lately? Genius move. If you haven't heard the rumors, the Browns may try to get Ben Tate, or do the smart thing and pick up a decent running back in round 3 or 4.
BTW, if your backups were so damn great @ 2-6, they'd already be starting over what you have on the field right now. So all you need is a NT, LT, and CB and all will be well in Pittsburgh. Riiiiight. Well, with their first 4 picks the Browns are going to draft the next Joe Montana, Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis, and Champ Bailey. That's about as likely.
So you want to downgrade this crop of college qbs? FYI, Alex Smith proved you can go 9-0 with a game manager and a stud defense. Um, retread Campbell just beat the Ravens if you didn't notice, we may not need another Aaron Rodgers, just another Smith. Regarding running backs, I'll trust Banner and Lombardi to not make the same dumb ass move Heckert & Walrus did of drafting a questionable RB with the #3 overall pick. Hmmm... everybody and their uncle was shocked when the Browns unloaded Richardson- you notice how he's doing in Indy lately? Genius move. If you haven't heard the rumors, the Browns may try to get Ben Tate, or do the smart thing and pick up a decent running back in round 3 or 4.
BTW, if your backups were so damn great @ 2-6, they'd already be starting over what you have on the field right now. So all you need is a NT, LT, and CB and all will be well in Pittsburgh. Riiiiight. Well, with their first 4 picks the Browns are going to draft the next Joe Montana, Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis, and Champ Bailey. That's about as likely.
Didn't you get the memo? Every 40 years the Steelers draft 4 Hall of Famers in a single draft. The last time was 1974....and now this next draft will be 2014 and they will draft 4 Hall of Famers to fill all of their holes...
(or perhaps more likely the Steelers will become like the Browns and not draft a HOFer for 35 years.....as the Browns have not drafted one since the 1978 draft got them Ozzie Newsome. Although the 2007 draft may have produced one in JT)
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Ive been saying that to this nincompoop (Vagi-tard) For a year or 2 or more..Now they may or may not suck for the next decade...That remains to be seen...but he thinks the Steelers are stocked?..Imfaoo..yeah they were supposed to be "stocked" 2 years ago,yet. Theyre a paltry 2-6. How's the great Le'veon Bell worked outt?..How about Ben?...I seriously hope he gets his head bashed in so they can watch Landry Jones and his slo-pitch wind up...that would be nothing short of hilarious. Again,nothing but pure delusional hoping,wishing from a fan that thinks Kevin Colbert is just gonna wave pixie dust and make everything ok in one fell swoop. Cameron Heywood is not even rellevant, or even being discussed about by anyone outside of shittsburgh. So far,,,He's a bust...sorry to break it to ya,...ROFL it's getting beyond ridiculous with this tool...
You claim that Heyward is a bust. He says Heyward is doing just great.....so, who is correct?
You claim that Heyward is a bust. He says Heyward is doing just great.....so, who is correct?
I wass merely prodding him...he takes the bait like a sissyboy everytime...Heyward may be slightly average at best...but not the world beater this clown makes him out to be..I'll take any one of our bench guys over Heyward any day of the year...
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You claim that Heyward is a bust. He says Heyward is doing just great.....so, who is correct?
I wass merely prodding him...he takes the bait like a sissyboy everytime...Heyward may be slightly average at best...but not the world beater this clown makes him out to be..I'll take any one of our bench guys over Heyward any day of the year...
I wass merely prodding him...he takes the bait like a sissyboy everytime...Heyward may be slightly average at best...but not the world beater this clown makes him out to be..I'll take any one of our bench guys over Heyward any day of the year...
I didn't label him a world beater, i just implied he's playing to his former draft status. Pro Football Focus graded him out as the best 3-4 defensive end in week 9 and he was in the green the last 5 games. He's going to be very solid. I only mentioned him because he boosts the defensive line and lessens the draft need in that category.
Gipper as far as the Indians are concerned I've never been a big baseball fan, at least not until the Pirates started showing some promise again 3 years ago. I used to go a decent amount with my dad when I was younger before Bonilla, Bonds, Jeff King etc, etc, etc left but was never that IN to baseball. It quite honestly bored me to tears but going to the games were always fun. I never played baseball growing up because of the former so no I wouldn't and didn't know the Indians lived in the gutter for that long. How were their ticket sales during that stretch? That was my point.
Nickers you never bait me with anything and if by bait you mean make stupid, illinformed comments then sure you're xxxxing Bill Dance.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
I wass merely prodding him...he takes the bait like a sissyboy everytime...Heyward may be slightly average at best...but not the world beater this clown makes him out to be..I'll take any one of our bench guys over Heyward any day of the year...
I didn't label him a world beater, i just implied he's playing to his former draft status. Pro Football Focus graded him out as the best 3-4 defensive end in week 9 and he was in the green the last 5 games. He's going to be very solid. I only mentioned him because he boosts the defensive line and lessens the draft need in that category.
Gipper as far as the Indians are concerned I've never been a big baseball fan, at least not until the Pirates started showing some promise again 3 years ago. I used to go a decent amount with my dad when I was younger before Bonilla, Bonds, Jeff King etc, etc, etc left but was never that IN to baseball. It quite honestly bored me to tears but going to the games were always fun. I never played baseball growing up because of the former so no I wouldn't and didn't know the Indians lived in the gutter for that long. How were their ticket sales during that stretch? That was my point.
Nickers you never bait me with anything and if by bait you mean make stupid, illinformed comments then sure you're xxxxing Bill Dance.
I didn't label him a world beater, i just implied he's playing to his former draft status. Pro Football Focus graded him out as the best 3-4 defensive end in week 9 and he was in the green the last 5 games. He's going to be very solid. I only mentioned him because he boosts the defensive line and lessens the draft need in that category.
I will have to check out this site. What does it do, like rank ever players performance for every week? Does it do a year to date compilation?
Gipper as far as the Indians are concerned I've never been a big baseball fan, at least not until the Pirates started showing some promise again 3 years ago. I used to go a decent amount with my dad when I was younger before Bonilla, Bonds, Jeff King etc, etc, etc left but was never that IN to baseball. It quite honestly bored me to tears but going to the games were always fun. I never played baseball growing up because of the former so no I wouldn't and didn't know the Indians lived in the gutter for that long. How were their ticket sales during that stretch? That was my point.
Well, for a lot of it, it was a different era. Getting a million fans a season could have been a great year attendance wise. And for the Tribe it was always up and down. At old Muni Stadium for opening day there would be 85,000 people in the stands, then the next game only 5000. Hope sprung eternal...but only briefly because we all knew that the managment had put out at best a .500 or worse product.
There were times though when it was outstanding. I was at a game vs. the Yankees in July when there were 83K there.
When the new Stadium opened though was about the time when finally the team also was really good, and fans knew it....and broke the major league record for most consecutive sellouts with 455...(since broken by the Red Sox). It took the Red Sox winning 2 WS and a 33,000 seat stadium, smallest in the majors to beat that record.
(and FYI, I played baseball every damn day I could growing up)
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I wass merely prodding him...he takes the bait like a sissyboy everytime...Heyward may be slightly average at best...but not the world beater this clown makes him out to be..I'll take any one of our bench guys over Heyward any day of the year...
I didn't label him a world beater, i just implied he's playing to his former draft status. Pro Football Focus graded him out as the best 3-4 defensive end in week 9 and he was in the green the last 5 games. He's going to be very solid. I only mentioned him because he boosts the defensive line and lessens the draft need in that category.
Gipper as far as the Indians are concerned I've never been a big baseball fan, at least not until the Pirates started showing some promise again 3 years ago. I used to go a decent amount with my dad when I was younger before Bonilla, Bonds, Jeff King etc, etc, etc left but was never that IN to baseball. It quite honestly bored me to tears but going to the games were always fun. I never played baseball growing up because of the former so no I wouldn't and didn't know the Indians lived in the gutter for that long. How were their ticket sales during that stretch? That was my point.
Nickers you never bait me with anything and if by bait you mean make stupid, illinformed comments then sure you're xxxxing Bill Dance.
I didn't label him a world beater, i just implied he's playing to his former draft status. Pro Football Focus graded him out as the best 3-4 defensive end in week 9 and he was in the green the last 5 games. He's going to be very solid. I only mentioned him because he boosts the defensive line and lessens the draft need in that category.
Gipper as far as the Indians are concerned I've never been a big baseball fan, at least not until the Pirates started showing some promise again 3 years ago. I used to go a decent amount with my dad when I was younger before Bonilla, Bonds, Jeff King etc, etc, etc left but was never that IN to baseball. It quite honestly bored me to tears but going to the games were always fun. I never played baseball growing up because of the former so no I wouldn't and didn't know the Indians lived in the gutter for that long. How were their ticket sales during that stretch? That was my point.
Nickers you never bait me with anything and if by bait you mean make stupid, illinformed comments then sure you're xxxxing Bill Dance.
Of course I do...you run like a bitch to EVERYTHING I say...I rent more space in your head than your willing to admit...get over yourself sissybitch!...
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Watching NFL Gameday and they just reported that Big Ben is unhappy with the direction of the Steelers and wants the team to explore options for his trade.
This could either be a way for Big Ben to force the Steelers to get rid of Haley or maybe he really wants out of Pittsburgh.
Obviously trading him would means that Pittsburgh would be in the market for a QB this upcoming draft and that means adding another team to the list of teams looking for a QB. Plus they will be drafting ahead of us barring us from trading up.
Never walk away from home ahead of your axe and sword. You can't feel a battle in your bones or forsee a fight. -The Havamal (Book of Viking Wisdom) -
Watching NFL Gameday and they just reported that Big Ben is unhappy with the direction of the Steelers and wants the team to explore options for his trade.
This could either be a way for Big Ben to force the Steelers to get rid of Haley or maybe he really wants out of Pittsburgh.
Obviously trading him would means that Pittsburgh would be in the market for a QB this upcoming draft and that means adding another team to the list of teams looking for a QB. Plus they will be drafting ahead of us barring us from trading up.
Watching NFL Gameday and they just reported that Big Ben is unhappy with the direction of the Steelers and wants the team to explore options for his trade.
This could either be a way for Big Ben to force the Steelers to get rid of Haley or maybe he really wants out of Pittsburgh.
Obviously trading him would means that Pittsburgh would be in the market for a QB this upcoming draft and that means adding another team to the list of teams looking for a QB. Plus they will be drafting ahead of us barring us from trading up.
Trade em Weeden or hell just give em to them
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Watching NFL Gameday and they just reported that Big Ben is unhappy with the direction of the Steelers and wants the team to explore options for his trade.
This could either be a way for Big Ben to force the Steelers to get rid of Haley or maybe he really wants out of Pittsburgh.
Obviously trading him would means that Pittsburgh would be in the market for a QB this upcoming draft and that means adding another team to the list of teams looking for a QB. Plus they will be drafting ahead of us barring us from trading up.
Watching NFL Gameday and they just reported that Big Ben is unhappy with the direction of the Steelers and wants the team to explore options for his trade.
This could either be a way for Big Ben to force the Steelers to get rid of Haley or maybe he really wants out of Pittsburgh.
Obviously trading him would means that Pittsburgh would be in the market for a QB this upcoming draft and that means adding another team to the list of teams looking for a QB. Plus they will be drafting ahead of us barring us from trading up.
"Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn!"
Appropriately, the quote above is from "Gone With The Wind" (which is the current location of Pittsburghs' dominance).
Mike
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