Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!
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Thats the thing with these fast Quarterbacks there not smart
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Johnny Manziel is my pick of the litter right now. But only if he falls to us. I was a big Johnny Football hater before the season started but the guy can flat out ball and its obvious his teammates love him. He also may have the most poise and the most football smarts of the bunch. Unless his hands measure too small, sign me up.
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Mariota just put up a stinker. I am still yet to see anything from him other than size and speed... He throws to wide open receivers, and has no pocket presence... not an NFL QB right now IMO, but I'd take a 2nd round risk on him if he fell as a developmental guy... Definitely not worth either of our 1st round picks...
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Thats the thing with these fast Quarterbacks there not smart
Thats the thing with these fast Quarterbacks there not smart
I feel like you are making a little bit of a generalization with fast quarterbacks here..
Andrew Luck runs a 4.67 40, 4th fastest QB at the 2012 combine. I'd say he's a pretty smart quarterback.
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Johnny Manziel is my pick of the litter right now. But only if he falls to us. I was a big Johnny Football hater before the season started but the guy can flat out ball and its obvious his teammates love him. He also may have the most poise and the most football smarts of the bunch. Unless his hands measure too small, sign me up.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Johnny Manziel is my pick of the litter right now. But only if he falls to us. I was a big Johnny Football hater before the season started but the guy can flat out ball and its obvious his teammates love him. He also may have the most poise and the most football smarts of the bunch. Unless his hands measure too small, sign me up.
Bridgewater, Carr, and Manziel look like the 1st rounders right now... maybe Hundley if he continues to play well and decides to come out... This "strong QB draft" is starting to thin itself out as the season unfolds...
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Somewhere, Shep is crying.
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I will say Mettenberger vs. McCarron will be interesting, as both of these guys are having VERY respectable seasons... McCarron is doing nothing but winning, so I agree with an earlier poster that he is somebody to watch when the draft process really kicks up...
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Somewhere, Shep is crying.
Somewhere, Shep is crying.
Lol
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I will say Mettenberger vs. McCarron will be interesting, as both of these guys are having VERY respectable seasons... McCarron is doing nothing but winning, so I agree with an earlier poster that he is somebody to watch when the draft process really kicks up...
I will say Mettenberger vs. McCarron will be interesting, as both of these guys are having VERY respectable seasons... McCarron is doing nothing but winning, so I agree with an earlier poster that he is somebody to watch when the draft process really kicks up...
I keep picturing the very average 2012 Mettenberger and thinking he's posting a career year in 2013 that he will never rise to again...
Just a feeling...
Looking forward to Mettenberger vs. Bama. Should tell us a lot.
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Yes but Andrew luck is a Passer before Runner The Colts are the best team in the NFL
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I mean you dont want this again Do you?
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Yes but Andrew luck is a Passer before Runner The Colts are the best team in the NFL
Lol. They've beat the best definitely but I'm not ready to crown em just yet.Yes but Andrew luck is a Passer before Runner The Colts are the best team in the NFL
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I will say Mettenberger vs. McCarron will be interesting, as both of these guys are having VERY respectable seasons... McCarron is doing nothing but winning, so I agree with an earlier poster that he is somebody to watch when the draft process really kicks up...
correction, Alabama is doing nothing but winning. McCarron hasn't been asked to put this team on his shoulders.....like ever. He has the best of everything around him and yet still doesnt excell. Gotta be very cautious when evaluating QB's on dominate teams.I will say Mettenberger vs. McCarron will be interesting, as both of these guys are having VERY respectable seasons... McCarron is doing nothing but winning, so I agree with an earlier poster that he is somebody to watch when the draft process really kicks up...
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like i just posted in another thread.............use our first first rounder on a defensive giant LB/CB??? then one of these guys will be staring us in the face with our second first rounder.
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If Mariota decides not to declare, it changes a LOT. Manziel, Carr, and Mettenberger all move up. Hell, it probably stops Tajh's precipitous slide! Teams start offering crazy wacked-out deals for Nick Foles in hopes that Chip is an idiot who only wants HIS quarterback.
That said, I think Mariota does declare because he'll be a top 10 grade no matter what... and recent history has agents telling these guys not to risk coming back.
On the other board, I read a quote from Ray Farmer saying he believes Brian Hoyer can play "championship caliber quarterback." I find that kind of fascinating. I still find it hard to believe the Browns won't draft a quarterback in round one (and I'm thinking Manziel today, but who knows about tomorrow?)... but I'm getting the feeling the Browns really deeply believe Brian Hoyer can be The Man. It starts with Lombardi but it's radiated to Chud and Farmer and, I assume, Banner.
Like I said, if Campbell leads the Browns to the playoffs, things get seriously soap opera-esque in the offseason.
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If Mariota decides not to declare, it changes a LOT. Manziel, Carr, and Mettenberger all move up. Hell, it probably stops Tajh's precipitous slide! Teams start offering crazy wacked-out deals for Nick Foles in hopes that Chip is an idiot who only wants HIS quarterback.
That said, I think Mariota does declare because he'll be a top 10 grade no matter what... and recent history has agents telling these guys not to risk coming back.
On the other board, I read a quote from Ray Farmer saying he believes Brian Hoyer can play "championship caliber quarterback." I find that kind of fascinating. I still find it hard to believe the Browns won't draft a quarterback in round one (and I'm thinking Manziel today, but who knows about tomorrow?)... but I'm getting the feeling the Browns really deeply believe Brian Hoyer can be The Man. It starts with Lombardi but it's radiated to Chud and Farmer and, I assume, Banner.
Like I said, if Campbell leads the Browns to the playoffs, things get seriously soap opera-esque in the offseason.
If Mariota decides not to declare, it changes a LOT. Manziel, Carr, and Mettenberger all move up. Hell, it probably stops Tajh's precipitous slide! Teams start offering crazy wacked-out deals for Nick Foles in hopes that Chip is an idiot who only wants HIS quarterback.
That said, I think Mariota does declare because he'll be a top 10 grade no matter what... and recent history has agents telling these guys not to risk coming back.
On the other board, I read a quote from Ray Farmer saying he believes Brian Hoyer can play "championship caliber quarterback." I find that kind of fascinating. I still find it hard to believe the Browns won't draft a quarterback in round one (and I'm thinking Manziel today, but who knows about tomorrow?)... but I'm getting the feeling the Browns really deeply believe Brian Hoyer can be The Man. It starts with Lombardi but it's radiated to Chud and Farmer and, I assume, Banner.
Like I said, if Campbell leads the Browns to the playoffs, things get seriously soap opera-esque in the offseason.
Sounds like Farmer is starting the smoke screen early...
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If Mariota decides not to declare, it changes a LOT. Manziel, Carr, and Mettenberger all move up. Hell, it probably stops Tajh's precipitous slide! Teams start offering crazy wacked-out deals for Nick Foles in hopes that Chip is an idiot who only wants HIS quarterback.
That said, I think Mariota does declare because he'll be a top 10 grade no matter what... and recent history has agents telling these guys not to risk coming back.
On the other board, I read a quote from Ray Farmer saying he believes Brian Hoyer can play "championship caliber quarterback." I find that kind of fascinating. I still find it hard to believe the Browns won't draft a quarterback in round one (and I'm thinking Manziel today, but who knows about tomorrow?)... but I'm getting the feeling the Browns really deeply believe Brian Hoyer can be The Man. It starts with Lombardi but it's radiated to Chud and Farmer and, I assume, Banner.
Like I said, if Campbell leads the Browns to the playoffs, things get seriously soap opera-esque in the offseason.
Sounds like Farmer is starting the smoke screen early...
Excellent point. Plenty of ammunition to confuse: "Campbell is the black Rich Gannon! Hoyer is Lombardi's illegitimate son! The Browns traded Richardson to make sure they can get Manziel!"
Nobody's gonna have a clue what the Browns are gonna do at QB... and we'll end up making another tremendous trade. Farmer is pumping up Hoyer's value. Expect to hear that he's running 4.4s by March (!).
Sounds like Farmer is starting the smoke screen early...
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If Mariota decides not to declare, it changes a LOT. Manziel, Carr, and Mettenberger all move up. Hell, it probably stops Tajh's precipitous slide! Teams start offering crazy wacked-out deals for Nick Foles in hopes that Chip is an idiot who only wants HIS quarterback.
That said, I think Mariota does declare because he'll be a top 10 grade no matter what... and recent history has agents telling these guys not to risk coming back.
On the other board, I read a quote from Ray Farmer saying he believes Brian Hoyer can play "championship caliber quarterback." I find that kind of fascinating. I still find it hard to believe the Browns won't draft a quarterback in round one (and I'm thinking Manziel today, but who knows about tomorrow?)... but I'm getting the feeling the Browns really deeply believe Brian Hoyer can be The Man. It starts with Lombardi but it's radiated to Chud and Farmer and, I assume, Banner.
Like I said, if Campbell leads the Browns to the playoffs, things get seriously soap opera-esque in the offseason.
... if Campbell leads the Browns to the playoffs, things get seriously soap opera-esque in the offseason.
You mean here, right?
Seriously, I don't see a QB controversy.
Assuming his reasonable recovery, Hoyer and Campbell would go into camp tied for first with whatever Rookie we nab as our #3 destined to sit and learn for a year.
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Assuming the Browns draft a long-term guy in round one, I think neither Campbell nor Hoyer would accept being the guy who isn't Now OR The Future, you know what I'm saying? If you aren't starting the opener and you aren't (say) Manziel, you're really just wasting a year of your career after showing you can play.
I think the Browns would basically have TWO guys who should be starting and then mentoring when they only need one. Let someone else have the other one to mentor THEIR rookie... and take one of their higher picks for the privilege!
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