Walter sticks with Curry
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B.J. Raji could end up being someone teams are willing to trade up for. He's emerged as the only solid NT in this year's draft (his teammate, Ron Brace has a quick first step, but is not very good at moving laterally).
With Cinci, Green Bay, and Denver all in the market for a NT, there could be a rush to move up & get Raji.
If Curry's gone, I certainly wouldn't mind us making sure that Raji doesn't end up in a Bengals uniform.
Aloysius said:
If Curry's gone, I certainly wouldn't mind us making sure that Raji doesn't end up in a Bengals uniform.I agree....good point, but the only way to see that happen is to be ready to draft the guy.
This kind of goes back to our conversation yesterday and us having Rogers.
I agree...I don't want him in our division.....but yep...he could be a trade target...this is the conversation I seek..trying to figure out the guys teams may want and who those teams might be...for me anyway...a trade down would probably serve us best.
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Aloysius said:
If Curry's gone, I certainly wouldn't mind us making sure that Raji doesn't end up in a Bengals uniform.I agree....good point, but the only way to see that happen is to be ready to draft the guy.
This kind of goes back to our conversation yesterday and us having Rogers.
I agree...I don't want him in our division.....but yep...he could be a trade target...this is the conversation I seek..trying to figure out the guys teams may want and who those teams might be...for me anyway...a trade down would probably serve us best.
I agree....good point, but the only way to see that happen is to be ready to draft the guy.
Not necessarily. If teams like Denver and Green Bay are convinced that Cinci will take Raji, they'll have to trade in front of the Bengals to get their guy. And with the Bengals picking right behind us, we're ideally situated to make that trade.
I agree...I don't want him in our division.....but yep...he could be a trade target...this is the conversation I seek..trying to figure out the guys teams may want and who those teams might be...for me anyway...a trade down would probably serve us best.
I get the appeal of the trade down; I just don't see who that guy is that we'd take after trading down.
Maualuga's done some things this week that make me a little more comfortable with him. Or maybe it's just that it'd be interesting to have Bryan Cox come in to coach Maualuga. If there's anyone who can motivate Maualuga, it's a former psycho linebacker like Cox.
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I agree on the Cincy point....Rey would still be in the mix....and we seem a bit fixed on a backer...that isn't the only thing we can do....who knows what is going to transpire in FA wich might alter any needs list we might have today.
Who knows...we might go RB....not a great chance...corner...one of the other DEs.
Plus...we have Beau Bell...what happened to him?? A few months ago some of the people around here were claiming him the next great backer in the league.....have we given up on that
But going back to a earlier point....trading DA or Edwards or someone else might also change the attitude we take with the first pick and our willingness to trade out of it.
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What's interesting is that T.J. McCreight was very high on Bell during the draft process.
I wonder if he still is & if that'll affect our offseason plans.
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And one thing we need to remember is no matter which way we go, we aren't going to fix everything.
We need 2 starters out of this draft.....I would assume the first 2 picks.
That is why I hope, no matter who we take, we aren't looking at some sort of project of a major degree.....like a DE and teaching him to play backer...
I can see transitioning a 4-3 backer into a 3-4 backer with little difficulty...or moving a LT to RT or something like that....but we need 2 guys who can come in and start pretty much from the get go.
Getting back to Curry...I guess i have always seen him outside.
My hope is bell is ready too...if not, we keep davis another year...he isn't horrible in the middle...we have to replace Willie...who do you guys see us playing there if we do draft Curry and put him inside.
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And one thing we need to remember is no matter which way we go, we aren't going to fix everything.
We need 2 starters out of this draft.....I would assume the first 2 picks.
That is why I hope, no matter who we take, we aren't looking at some sort of project of a major degree.....like a DE and teaching him to play backer...
I can see transitioning a 4-3 backer into a 3-4 backer with little difficulty...or moving a LT to RT or something like that....but we need 2 guys who can come in and start pretty much from the get go.
Getting back to Curry...I guess i have always seen him outside.
My hope is bell is ready too...if not, we keep davis another year...he isn't horrible in the middle...we have to replace Willie...who do you guys see us playing there if we do draft Curry and put him inside.
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@inspecta said:
It's not that Davis get's physically outmatched often it's the poor angles he takes and his poor play recognition, you would think with a vet like him that would be the least of his problems.YET HE SUCKS CANAL WATER AS A MLB...JUST HORRIBLE....HENCE HORRIBLE DEFENSE! WE NEED A MLB MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TEAM!
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@inspecta said:
It's not that Davis get's physically outmatched often it's the poor angles he takes and his poor play recognition, you would think with a vet like him that would be the least of his problems.He gets easily bamboozled.../he has no football instincts period...he flat out sucks..I WANT HIM GONE!
No more Wali Rainer types please...
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Hey guys....didn't mean to make skin crawl......lol
Just saying from a needs basis since many here are needs based in their thinking....OLB seems to be a bigger need than does MLB.
JMO
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Hey guys....didn't mean to make skin crawl......lol
Just saying from a needs basis since many here are needs based in their thinking....OLB seems to be a bigger need than does MLB.
JMO
Hey guys....didn't mean to make skin crawl......lol
Just saying from a needs basis since many here are needs based in their thinking....OLB seems to be a bigger need than does MLB.
JMO
Disagree completely....as stated about a bazillion times...We need a stud in the middle to give us an Identity and someone to make plays at the line of scrimmage behind rogers. Rey should be ALL-World behind shaun the freak Rogers
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The strange thing about this and walters last mock is that in the 6 days since the last one we have swapped running backs with Indy, a whopping 25 places below us, in the 2nd round. Previously we were taking Donald Brown at 36 and Indy taking Shon Greene at 61, now its the opposite way around, anyone know why?
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Mayock on NFL network...whom I respect way more than kiper or fckshay....just said the exact same arguements that are said of Rey M were the exact same arguements of Troy P....looking back would you take Troy P at #5?
Mayock on NFL network...whom I respect way more than kiper or fckshay....just said the exact same arguements that are said of Rey M were the exact same arguements of Troy P....looking back would you take Troy P at #5?
I respect Mayock. But a saftey and a ILB are apples and oranges. An ILB doesn't have the extra 5 yards to adjust if he runs himself out of a play. I'd be fine with drafting an ILB, just not Rey M. He is this years Derick Johnson at best imo.
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The strange thing about this and walters last mock is that in the 6 days since the last one we have swapped running backs with Indy, a whopping 25 places below us, in the 2nd round. Previously we were taking Donald Brown at 36 and Indy taking Shon Greene at 61, now its the opposite way around, anyone know why?
The strange thing about this and walters last mock is that in the 6 days since the last one we have swapped running backs with Indy, a whopping 25 places below us, in the 2nd round. Previously we were taking Donald Brown at 36 and Indy taking Shon Greene at 61, now its the opposite way around, anyone know why?
He must be re-doing his RB rankings. Javon Ringer also dropped 31 picks.
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The strange thing about this and walters last mock is that in the 6 days since the last one we have swapped running backs with Indy, a whopping 25 places below us, in the 2nd round. Previously we were taking Donald Brown at 36 and Indy taking Shon Greene at 61, now its the opposite way around, anyone know why?
He must be re-doing his RB rankings. Javon Ringer also dropped 31 picks.
Aloysius said:
He must be re-doing his RB rankings. Javon Ringer also dropped 31 picks.I'm not a Ringer fan at all. He's a body builder who got by on his fitness and strength at the college level, but he will add nothing in the league IMO unless he were to go somewhere with a killer running game already. At that point he wouldn't hurt a team, but he is not a difference maker.
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I was going to respond to Russ's post, but I got distracted by Tom Selleck's chest hair
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Aloysius said:
I was going to respond to Russ's post, but I got distracted by Tom Selleck's chest hairLikewise, i ended up playing where's wally with his nipple...
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Mayock on NFL network...whom I respect way more than kiper or fckshay....just said the exact same arguements that are said of Rey M were the exact same arguements of Troy P....looking back would you take Troy P at #5?
I respect Mayock. But a saftey and a ILB are apples and oranges. An ILB doesn't have the extra 5 yards to adjust if he runs himself out of a play. I'd be fine with drafting an ILB, just not Rey M. He is this years Derick Johnson at best imo.
Masters said:
I respect Mayock. But a saftey and a ILB are apples and oranges. An ILB doesn't have the extra 5 yards to adjust if he runs himself out of a play. I'd be fine with drafting an ILB, just not Rey M. He is this years Derick Johnson at best imo.Really? I thought they were the same.....NO SHIT! The question was... looking back at that draft class.... were everyone said and had the same knocks on polamalu as they do rey.... and he TP fell to 16th or so b4 Pitt traded up to get him.....would you pick polamalu 5th overall??? as oppossed to 16th?
Sometimes you just argue for the sake of it.....I know you don't want Rey....you probably think Andra Davis is a good MLB...watever!
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None of us are arguing that Rey won't be a good ILB. He just has more weaknesses than Curry, who is about as polished as you get, as well as the same ceiling as Rey. He is the best LB since Willis.
OTOH, I think if Curry is there at 5, theres no doubt we take him. Im just worried about KC. If he is taken, then I hope the Trade Down so someone can take Raji works best, but I wouldnt be mad if we CANT trade down and we take Rey or Beanie there.
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