Buckeyes
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Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
OK, they may not jump those teams unless those teams lose...which they can do....but that does not mean that they could not beat them if they played.
As for the schedules....have you seen Alabama's schedule? They play a lousier schedule than the Buckeyes do. Their non-conference games:
Colorado St.
Georgia St.
Chattanooga.
(that is a far bigger cupcake schedule than OSU playing Cal, SDSU, Fla. A&M and Buffalo)
And Alabama's SEC schedule includes
Texas A&M
Kentucky
Arkansas
Tennesseee
Missisissipi St.
LSU
Auburn
(I do not see where, this year anyway, that these teams are significantly, if at all better than Penn St., Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, Illinois, Purdue and Michigan...do you?)
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I know our (Buckeyes) schedule isn't stellar, but 21 in a row speaks for itself.
Also, we started ranked #2, & we were dropped in the polls because we didn't look good vs. Cal. Then we beat up a team we shouldn't even play 76-0, and we drop another spot to #4.
I think the only way we can play for the BCS title is for all 3 teams ahead of us to lose once. The national media hates OSU, and the SEC coaches will never give props to any Big 10 team in the coaches poll.
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The media is SEC bias, but they don'y hate OSU. OSU just doesn't have as many impressive wins as FSU or Oregon
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The media is SEC bias, but they don'y hate OSU. OSU just doesn't have as many impressive wins as FSU or Oregon
The media is SEC bias, but they don'y hate OSU. OSU just doesn't have as many impressive wins as FSU or Oregon
You're partially right....only Mark may & Tim Brando (biggest SEC rah rah guy ever) seem to have total Buckeye hate.
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Now since Oregon has lost, people are saying Baylor should be ranked over OSU. I highly disagree.
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Wow, STA and BAY are still ranked below OSU, despite them both crushing Top 10 teams!
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Unfortunately for OSU, Stanford has a much juicier schedule, playing ranked opponents the rest of the way: USC, CAL & N. Dame.
BAY plays #12 OK S. and #24 Texas.
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Who determines the schedule? It seems a bit unfair for someone to determine who you play, then criticise you for it.
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Who determines the schedule? It seems a bit unfair for someone to determine who you play, then criticise you for it.
Who determines the schedule? It seems a bit unfair for someone to determine who you play, then criticise you for it.
For the conference portion of the schedule, the Big Ten decides the schedule. For the non-conference portion the schools make their own arrangements. And the contracts for these games are often made a decade in advance, especially those against other major conference teams. See this link:
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/ohio-state-buckeyes.php
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Stanford also lost.
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Who determines the schedule? It seems a bit unfair for someone to determine who you play, then criticise you for it.
Who determines the schedule? It seems a bit unfair for someone to determine who you play, then criticise you for it.
Luckily, there will be a playoff starting next season.
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Luckily, there will be a playoff starting next season.
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
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Luckily, there will be a playoff starting next season.
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
Consider college football like evolution: change comes, but it comes very very slowly.
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Well if this was the political forum then we wouldn't consider evolution at all.
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Well if this was the political forum then we wouldn't consider evolution at all.
(In their case, no, evolution has not occurred)
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Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
2011 Sugar Bowl
Also it hurts OSU that Wisconsin lost a dumb game(refs admitted a mistake), Michigan isn't at its usual position, Vanderbilt dropped out of a game(almost at the last moment) forcing OSU to schedule who was left(San Diego State) and Northwestern basically collapsed after they lost to OSU
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Luckily, there will be a playoff starting next season.
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
Its a great system for having some great bowl games, and pre-BCS era there was a ton of bowl games on New Years that you could just sit around and watch all day. However its horrible at deciding who is the best in the country.
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Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
2011 Sugar Bowl
Also it hurts OSU that Wisconsin lost a dumb game(refs admitted a mistake), Michigan isn't at its usual position, Vanderbilt dropped out of a game(almost at the last moment) forcing OSU to schedule who was left(San Diego State) and Northwestern basically collapsed after they lost to OSU
2011 Sugar Bowl
Also it hurts OSU that Wisconsin lost a dumb game(refs admitted a mistake), Michigan isn't at its usual position, Vanderbilt dropped out of a game(almost at the last moment) forcing OSU to schedule who was left(San Diego State) and Northwestern basically collapsed after they lost to OSU
So? An SEC team pussed out from playing OSU? Why? So they could schedule like Mideast Bugtussle College?
People claim that OSU's schedule was weak this year. Have you seen the SEC team's nonconference schedules?
Alabama I think plays 2 different Division 1-AA opponents.
Hell I have checked it....and at least 9 of the SEC schools have scheduled 2 games each against lower division opponents:
Alabama: Ga. St. and Chattanooga St.
Arkansas: Samford and UL-Lafayette
Auburn: Western Carolina and Fla. Atlantic
Kentucky: W. Ky and Alabam St.
LSU: UAB and Furman
Ole Miss: SE Missouri and Idaho
Missouri: Ark. St. and Murray St
Tenn: Austin Peay and W. Ky
Vandy: Austin Peay and UMass.
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I wasn't disagreeing with the fact that OSU's schedules isn't really weak when compared to other schools, if you throw vandy on there and remove san diego state its probably right on par with alabama's and fsu's strength wise. The BS era is all about national perception and having the B1G second biggest named schools not being that strong(Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska) hurts a team like OSU get more votes to get into the NC game.
IMO OSU is the third best(being objective) team in the country behind Alabama and Baylor, think Baylor is underrated and FSU is overrated for their 1 win against Clemson.
Also a few of those teams that you have listed are now FBS schools, unless your defining lower division as non BCS conferences (ie GA State and western KY) only 3 FBS schools played 2 or more FCS schools Clemson and GA tech have 2, and GA State has 3.
Games vs. FCS Schools by Conference http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/2013-college-football-scheduling-fbs-vs-fcs/
- ACC - 16
- Big 12 - 8
- Big East - 9
- Big Ten - 10
- C-USA - 7
- Independents - 4
- MAC - 12
- MWC - 10
- Pac-12 - 9
- SEC - 14
- Sun Belt - 10
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