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  • 1a. Best OffensivE player available oMIting QB.

    1b. Best Defensive player available.

    2a. AJ McCarron this guy IS THE BEST AVAILABLE. And is going to be overlooked.

    2b. Carlos Hyde.

    If they do this. Theyll be just fine.

  • Uh, no. But I do assume you played OL! We could field the first Almost All First Round OL in history... which doesn't mean shit!

    @baconhound said:

    1a. Jake Matthews/Taylor Lewan whomever is available

    1b. Mike Evans

    2. Best LB/CB or a QB if a solid one in on the board

    3a. Best RB/LB/CB on the board

    3b. Trey Millard best player on the board

    4a. Best Athlete on the board

    4b. Best Player on the board

    5. Best Player on the board

    6. Best Player on the board

    7. Best Player on the board

    @shep said:

    Uh, no. But I do assume you played OL! We could field the first Almost All First Round OL in history... which doesn't mean shit!

    obviously you know SHIT about football. what did stafford say in his presser after wiping the packers off the field today?

    "THANKS TO OUR BIG GUYS UP FRONT. IF YOU CAN RUN THE BALL LIKE WE DID AND HAVE TIME TO THROW, YOU'RE ALMOST ALWAYS GUARANTEED A WIN."

    i'm not against getting your franchise QB but we DO need a lot more help than that. and don't give me that bullshit about a great QB can make the team. without a line they'll end up like tim couch. and what do you mean by third string corners? how about a number 2 CB? someone over 6'2" maybe? you are so blinded by this QB situation that you can't see anything else.

    get your fucking QB, finish the defense (should only take 2 picks in the draft and a couple of FA signings) and then start from the center right and flush the toilet and draft the BIG BOYS!

  • A QB without a decent OL is toast.

  • And depth on the oline is always huge. Same goes for d-line. Can't have enough big nasties.

  • It's tough for a qb with bad blocking/no running game.

    It's tough for a rb with bad blocking, and crap qb.

    It's tough for an oline, with a bad qb and crap rb.

    It's a team game.

    You have to love it when it all comes together.

    This is the first Browns staff that gets it, I think, in years.

  • You only have to look at the packers to see how a good QB can elevate a team. Sure, he's not playing D, but they probably can afford to take a few more chances knowing rodgers can always march them down the field and score points. The gameplan changes. Not to mention, the rest of the team has higher morale and confidence when your franchise QB is in.

    That's not to say I would be upset if they took an OL in the second round, just that I think the absolute number one priority should be QB. After that, WR, RB and OL are all roughly equal, just the skill positions are flashier, and harder to get good players at.

  • You only have to look at the packers to see how a good QB can elevate a team. Sure, he's not playing D, but they probably can afford to take a few more chances knowing rodgers can always march them down the field and score points. The gameplan changes. Not to mention, the rest of the team has higher morale and confidence when your franchise QB is in.

    That's not to say I would be upset if they took an OL in the second round, just that I think the absolute number one priority should be QB. After that, WR, RB and OL are all roughly equal, just the skill positions are flashier, and harder to get good players at.

    @gftchris said:

    You only have to look at the packers to see how a good QB can elevate a team. Sure, he's not playing D, but they probably can afford to take a few more chances knowing rodgers can always march them down the field and score points. The gameplan changes. Not to mention, the rest of the team has higher morale and confidence when your franchise QB is in.

    That's not to say I would be upset if they took an OL in the second round, just that I think the absolute number one priority should be QB. After that, WR, RB and OL are all roughly equal, just the skill positions are flashier, and harder to get good players at.

    If you could draft Aaron Rodgers I agree. You are looking at a team missing a top 3 QB and replacing him with a guy who couldn't help the Raiders.

  • @shep said:

    With our money, it's gonna be SO dependent on who we sign in free agency... and we'll be signing heartily. At least three of our lesser needs (not QB or RB) will already be filled. I'd actually rather draft those two AND the WR for different reasons: QB because there are never any really good ones available in free agency. Either old or bad or both. RB because they don't last long. WR because none will want to sign with Cleveland.

    The other stuff, guards and third corners and ILB, can be young free agents.

    I'd probably go QB, WR, RB, based on where you'll get the most value. Carr, Matthews, highest rated back with some size to go with Dion Lewis. In fact, we could trade back in round 2 and still be drafting high for a back. Love to end up with a cluster of picks in rounds 2 and 3.

    Derek Carr and the Browns seem to be on a collision course... but don't count out Hundley. He makes a lot of sense because we have Hoyer. Gonna be a lot of WRs to choose from at #25-ish (or higher, since the Colts can get blown out by horrible teams on any given Sunday).

    Drew Brees? Peton Manning?

    Exactly. Once every eight years you get a shot at a great QB coming off a career threatening injury. Agreed.

    @baconhound said:

    Drew Brees? Peton Manning?

  • 1a. Best OffensivE player available oMIting QB.

    1b. Best Defensive player available.

    2a. AJ McCarron this guy IS THE BEST AVAILABLE. And is going to be overlooked.

    2b. Carlos Hyde.

    If they do this. Theyll be just fine.

    @cdl15 said:

    1a. Best OffensivE player available oMIting QB.

    1b. Best Defensive player available.

    2a. AJ McCarron this guy IS THE BEST AVAILABLE. And is going to be overlooked.

    2b. Carlos Hyde.

    If they do this. Theyll be just fine.

    At best. "Fine." With a limited QB (the next Ponder) we might string together a few 8-8s before our window closes.

  • Exactly. Once every eight years you get a shot at a great QB coming off a career threatening injury. Agreed.

    @baconhound said:

    Drew Brees? Peton Manning?

    @shep said:

    Exactly. Once every eight years you get a shot at a great QB coming off a career threatening injury. Agreed.

    Two Hall of Famers. Carson Palmer is having a solid year.

  • It's tough for a qb with bad blocking/no running game.

    It's tough for a rb with bad blocking, and crap qb.

    It's tough for an oline, with a bad qb and crap rb.

    It's a team game.

    You have to love it when it all comes together.

    This is the first Browns staff that gets it, I think, in years.

    @calfoxwc said:

    This is the first Browns staff that gets it, I think, in years.

    you mean you hope, as i do. we'll soon find out.