Buckeyes
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I wasn't disagreeing with the fact that OSU's schedules isn't really weak when compared to other schools, if you throw vandy on there and remove san diego state its probably right on par with alabama's and fsu's strength wise. The BS era is all about national perception and having the B1G second biggest named schools not being that strong(Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska) hurts a team like OSU get more votes to get into the NC game.
IMO OSU is the third best(being objective) team in the country behind Alabama and Baylor, think Baylor is underrated and FSU is overrated for their 1 win against Clemson.
Also a few of those teams that you have listed are now FBS schools, unless your defining lower division as non BCS conferences (ie GA State and western KY) only 3 FBS schools played 2 or more FCS schools Clemson and GA tech have 2, and GA State has 3.
Games vs. FCS Schools by Conference http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/2013-college-football-scheduling-fbs-vs-fcs/
- ACC - 16
- Big 12 - 8
- Big East - 9
- Big Ten - 10
- C-USA - 7
- Independents - 4
- MAC - 12
- MWC - 10
- Pac-12 - 9
- SEC - 14
- Sun Belt - 10
I wasn't disagreeing with the fact that OSU's schedules isn't really weak when compared to other schools, if you throw vandy on there and remove san diego state its probably right on par with alabama's and fsu's strength wise. The BS era is all about national perception and having the B1G second biggest named schools not being that strong(Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska) hurts a team like OSU get more votes to get into the NC game.
IMO OSU is the third best(being objective) team in the country behind Alabama and Baylor, think Baylor is underrated and FSU is overrated for their 1 win against Clemson.
Also a few of those teams that you have listed are now FBS schools, unless your defining lower division as non BCS conferences (ie GA State and western KY) only 3 FBS schools played 2 or more FCS schools Clemson and GA tech have 2, and GA State has 3.
Games vs. FCS Schools by Conference http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/2013-college-football-scheduling-fbs-vs-fcs/
- ACC - 16
- Big 12 - 8
- Big East - 9
- Big Ten - 10
- C-USA - 7
- Independents - 4
- MAC - 12
- MWC - 10
- Pac-12 - 9
- SEC - 14
- Sun Belt - 10
Are you saying that either Austin Peay or UMass are now FBS?
Honestly, if the likes of those teams, or W Ky. and Ga. State are FBS, then there should be a rule among the top 6 conferences that none of them should ever be allowed to play an FCS level school. I don't like it that Ohio St. had to schedule the likes of Florida A&M.
Also.....in my opinion, the San Diego St. football program is every bit the equal to if not better than the Vanderbilt football program.
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I guess there are a number of schools that have just recently become FBS level....for whatever reason, that one would have always thought should be in the lower level of schools:
South Alabama
Troy St.
Florida International
Florida Atlantic
Georgia St.
Western KY
Louisiana-Lafayette
Idaho
UMass
New Mex. St.
UTEP
UTSA ( Texas San Antonio)
And, apparently in the next several years the following schools are also supposed to make the jump:
Appalachian St.
Georgia Southern
UNC Charlotte
Old Dominion.
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You can thank college re-alignment and TV deals, as teams like Rutgers and Maryland move from the aac(formerly big east) and acc the old conferences need to get teams to fill the gaps from somewhere.
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You can thank college re-alignment and TV deals, as teams like Rutgers and Maryland move from the aac(formerly big east) and acc the old conferences need to get teams to fill the gaps from somewhere.
You can thank college re-alignment and TV deals, as teams like Rutgers and Maryland move from the aac(formerly big east) and acc the old conferences need to get teams to fill the gaps from somewhere.
I don't know that all conferences need to "fill gaps". Personally I think that an FBS conference should be capped at 12 teams....and that there should be at most 10 conferences.
Right now, there are those 10 conferences:
SEC
Big Ten
Pac-12
Big 12
ACC
AAC
Conf-USA
MAC
Sun Belt
Mountain West
120 teams....max in the division.....but there are already more than that. 122 plus another three or 4 coming in.
OK, I could go along with each conference having either 12 or 14. So give a total max max max of 130 teams.
But...some teams from Conf USA which has16 now need to be shifted.
Or better, shift SMU and Houston now in the AAC back into the Big 12...and shift some of the Conf USA teams into the AAC.
Maryland will be leaving the ACC, so it will drop down to 14, so that is good.
So, maybe the Mountain West, now at 11 could add 1 team....in that regard, something is stupid. Idaho is now an Independent....but is joining the Sun Belt Conf? WTF? Why not join the Mountain West....wit like minded schools, not the Sun Belt.
Stupid
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Can FSU win out if their beloved QB is charged with rape?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I don't see a win against Arkansas, weird.
Kind of like those fab 5 teams that didn't exist?
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Ohio State fans are nor secretly hoping that Winston gets arrested in the upcoming days.
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Can FSU win out if their beloved QB is charged with rape?
Can they? Perhaps. Will they.....it would be a lot harder for them.....and they would lose a lot of their votes likely without Winston.
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I am thinking Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.
Alabama looks like they are about to lose
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I am thinking Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.
Alabama looks like they are about to lose
ummm, yeah.
leaves osu open for the BCS title game BABY!!
guess the iron bowl was made out of aluminum foil for bama this year.
kicker? how many fucking big games have been won/loss because of team's kicking game?
fuck bama.
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man..........how many close-ups of men rooting for their team and losing........close-ups of them crying.
wha! bitches. yeah the SEC and ACC and PAC12 and big !2 are so fucking talented."
fuck them.
hope we play either oregon, auburn or alabama just to kick it n their teeth.
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I am thinking Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.
Alabama looks like they are about to lose
So how many of those SEC fags are going to vote Auburn ahead of Ohio State just because they beat mighty Alabama?
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I am thinking Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.
Alabama looks like they are about to lose
So how many of those SEC fags are going to vote Auburn ahead of Ohio State just because they beat mighty Alabama?
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I think the coaches will keep OSU ahead of Auburn, and the computer sure will, with Aub's 1 loss. The Harris poll might be different, because that poll has some serious SEC bias on it
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I am thinking Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.
Alabama looks like they are about to lose
ummm, yeah.
leaves osu open for the BCS title game BABY!!
guess the iron bowl was made out of aluminum foil for bama this year.
kicker? how many fucking big games have been won/loss because of team's kicking game?
fuck bama.
ummm, yeah.
leaves osu open for the BCS title game BABY!!
guess the iron bowl was made out of aluminum foil for bama this year.
kicker? how many fucking big games have been won/loss because of team's kicking game?
fuck bama.
Michigan St. is no walkover. That is a damn good team, and OSU could have trouble.
You will have strength going against strength in OSU's offense vs. MSU's defense. The game will probably be decided by how well OSU's defense plays against MSU's offense. Ohio State's defense has been on a roller coaster ride.
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I am thinking Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.
Alabama looks like they are about to lose
So how many of those SEC fags are going to vote Auburn ahead of Ohio State just because they beat mighty Alabama?
So how many of those SEC fags are going to vote Auburn ahead of Ohio State just because they beat mighty Alabama?
Looks like all of them will.
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Looks like all of them will.
It's called propaganda, and it works. Get ESPN, all the .com sports web sites, etc. to bash OSU & the Big 10, then hype up the SEC.
Yeah, Ohio State blew it last night, I get that. But look at this picture....please:
Ohio St. was #2 in the early season poll, and got penalized for winning @Cal 52-34. A sloppy win they said, so you are now #3. Then, they beat FAMU, a team they shouldn't have played, 76-0, and get dropped to #4 because they didn't play anybody.
Its called bias. I'm sick of it, and its been going on for years. Do you guys remember in 1993, we went into Wisconsin ranked #4, played to a TIE against the Badgers who were ranked in the top 10, and we got dropped 4 spots.
You think I'm crazy? Fine. Alabama lost a game on their home field both last year and the year prior, and still played and won the BCS. Hell, they weren't even the champs of the SEC the one year (cannot recall if it was last year). Its total effing bullshit.
Karlis Missed -
Final Destination shit from a week ago... you were on borrowed time.
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Looks like all of them will.
It's called propaganda, and it works. Get ESPN, all the .com sports web sites, etc. to bash OSU & the Big 10, then hype up the SEC.
Yeah, Ohio State blew it last night, I get that. But look at this picture....please:
Ohio St. was #2 in the early season poll, and got penalized for winning @Cal 52-34. A sloppy win they said, so you are now #3. Then, they beat FAMU, a team they shouldn't have played, 76-0, and get dropped to #4 because they didn't play anybody.
Its called bias. I'm sick of it, and its been going on for years. Do you guys remember in 1993, we went into Wisconsin ranked #4, played to a TIE against the Badgers who were ranked in the top 10, and we got dropped 4 spots.
You think I'm crazy? Fine. Alabama lost a game on their home field both last year and the year prior, and still played and won the BCS. Hell, they weren't even the champs of the SEC the one year (cannot recall if it was last year). Its total effing bullshit.
It's called propaganda, and it works. Get ESPN, all the .com sports web sites, etc. to bash OSU & the Big 10, then hype up the SEC.
Yeah, Ohio State blew it last night, I get that. But look at this picture....please:
Ohio St. was #2 in the early season poll, and got penalized for winning @Cal 52-34. A sloppy win they said, so you are now #3. Then, they beat FAMU, a team they shouldn't have played, 76-0, and get dropped to #4 because they didn't play anybody.
Its called bias. I'm sick of it, and its been going on for years. Do you guys remember in 1993, we went into Wisconsin ranked #4, played to a TIE against the Badgers who were ranked in the top 10, and we got dropped 4 spots.
You think I'm crazy? Fine. Alabama lost a game on their home field both last year and the year prior, and still played and won the BCS. Hell, they weren't even the champs of the SEC the one year (cannot recall if it was last year). Its total effing bullshit.
I was simply responding to Hoorta and his fag comment. I am not interested is talking about games played in 93. He asked how many were going to vote for a SEC team and I replied.
It's not my fault OSU got beat by MSU. I fell asleep about 3 minutes in to the game and woke up to see MSU in Victor formation. I would have much rather OSU won at Floridawannabe St lose, but it didn't work that way. Either way, I am glad the SEC is in the game.
I am a strange breed to many around here. I am a Gator fan, and they totally sucked this year.....just like the Browns. I root for my conference. I will root for Auburn, and will root for Cincy, or Pittsburgh, or the Ravens if they move forward. I don't buy in to rooting for teams to lose unless it somehow helps your favorite team. I have rooted for every SEC team to win in bowl game and have rooted for Cincy, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh to win every playoff game unless we were involved. I will say I started rooting for Seattle when it became apparent to me they were getting jobbed by the refs in the SB they played against the Steelers.
I will take that back. I also openly rooted for OSU against Alabama in maybe the Sugar Bowl of 1977 or 8, might have been the year before Woody slugged that Clemson player....Ozzie played for the Tide that year.....I was still closely tied to Ohio
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Yea, I don't get the "I will root for my conference" thing.
If you are going to ask me to root for the Steelers and Ravens in a playoff game.....we gonna fight, brother
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