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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    Nelson Mandela's passed away, for those who come here before checking regular news.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520

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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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      It was all over the news yesterday. Seems he gets a pass in the national media that Arafat missed out on.

      It's an ironic coincidence that movie opened Wednesday.

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        It was all over the news yesterday. Seems he gets a pass in the national media that Arafat missed out on.

        It's an ironic coincidence that movie opened Wednesday.

        WSS

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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        @westside-steve said:

        It was all over the news yesterday. Seems he gets a pass in the national media that Arafat missed out on.

        It's an ironic coincidence that movie opened Wednesday.

        WSS

        Gets a pass?

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          Yes Chris, gets a pass. Arafat's name is synonymous with terrorism, at least here in the US.

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            Yes Chris, gets a pass. Arafat's name is synonymous with terrorism, at least here in the US.

            WSS

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            Yes Chris, gets a pass. Arafat's name is synonymous with terrorism, at least here in the US.

            WSS

            Yeah, the name Arafat tends to be connected with bad things here too. But my point was, why would Mandela be?

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Never saw the fascination with Mandela. I suppose one day Obama will be remembered like this, and for no reason.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                You don't think that heading the terrorist wing of the African National Congress entailed some, as you call them, bad things?

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                  I don't know anything about Mandela except, apparently, that he's loved for some reason or another, and thusly I did not give a crap when I heard he died. Dude was 95. His death was far from untimely

                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                    MLK and Mandela would be ashamed of Buttock ObaMao.

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                      MLK and Mandela would be ashamed of Buttock ObaMao.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      MLK and Mandela would be ashamed of Buttock ObaMao.

                      Probably you as well

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        They wouldn't know me, moron.

                        Can't you ever think of anything original to say?

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                        • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                          Never saw the fascination with Mandela. I suppose one day Obama will be remembered like this, and for no reason.

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                          Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                          Never saw the fascination with Mandela. I suppose one day Obama will be remembered like this, and for no reason.

                          Are you fucking kidding me? Like he was a fad or something. He fucking changed the world, go read something. By far the most idiotic thing I have heard you say.

                          Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                            I don't know anything about Mandela except, apparently, that he's loved for some reason or another, and thusly I did not give a crap when I heard he died. Dude was 95. His death was far from untimely

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                            @the-cysko-kid said:

                            I don't know anything about Mandela except, apparently, that he's loved for some reason or another.

                            WTF is wrong with people. Fucking read something.

                            Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                              Let's put it this way. I also don't give a flying fuck about him.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                yea READ something

                                I wouldnt and DONT give a rip about this "peace activist" either!

                                because it is the work of a media scrub job...

                                "Unfortunately, 1990 is where Mandela’s history begins and in 1999 is where it ends for most people. There is more.

                                A man named Tony Hollingsworth claims to be the person who transformed Mandela from terrorist to beloved icon."

                                "Hollingsworth, now 55, envisaged a star-studded concert that would transform Mandela from outlaw to icon in the public’s mind, and in turn press governments adopt a more accommodating stance.

                                He approached Archbishop Trevor Huddleston, president of the British Anti-Apartheid Movement, to pitch his musical strategy.

                                “I told Trevor that the African National Congress and the anti-apartheid movement had reached their glass ceiling; they couldn’t go further.”

                                “Everything you are doing is ‘anti’, you are protesting on the streets, but it will remain in that space. Many people will agree, but you will not appeal them.”

                                “Mandela and the movement should be seen as something positive, confident, something you would like to be in your living room with.”

                                While Hollingsworth dealt with artists, Mike Terry — head of the movement in London — dealt with the ANC and the sceptics in the anti-apartheid movement.

                                And there were many, including Mandela himself, who asked several times that the struggle not be about him.

                                Many others insisted the focus remain on sanctions against the apartheid regime.

                                “A lot of people were criticising me for sanitising it,” Hollingsworth remembered.

                                Eventually Terry convinced the ANC and Hollingsworth convinced Simple Minds, Dire Straits, Sting, George Michael, The Eurythmics, Eric Clapton, Whitney Houston and Stevie Wonder into the 83-artist line up.

                                With that musical firepower came contracts for a more than 11 hour broadcast.

                                “We signed with the entertainment department of television (stations). And when the head of the department got home and watched on his channel that they were calling Mandela a terrorist, they called straight to the news section to say, don’t call this man a terrorist, we just signed 11 hours of broadcasting for a tribute about him.”

                                “This is how we turned Mandela from a black terrorist into a black leader.”

                                http://floppingaces.net/2013/12/07/mandela-beyond-the-image/

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  Mandela was a great man - wanted freedom, and fairness for all,

                                  regardless of race, a bringer-together-er.

                                  Obamao is just a marxist, racist pig with Napoleonic mentality tossed in,

                                  with avid desires to divide people by race, favoring blacks and muslims,

                                  divide them with class/economic pychological warfare, any way he can.

                                  That's how despots come to power. Half favors him cult-like, and half

                                  end up fearing his influence, and out right power.

                                  Obamao is very, very much the exact opposite of Obamao.

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                                    Mandela was a great man - wanted freedom, and fairness for all,

                                    regardless of race, a bringer-together-er.

                                    Obamao is just a marxist, racist pig with Napoleonic mentality tossed in,

                                    with avid desires to divide people by race, favoring blacks and muslims,

                                    divide them with class/economic pychological warfare, any way he can.

                                    That's how despots come to power. Half favors him cult-like, and half

                                    end up fearing his influence, and out right power.

                                    Obamao is very, very much the exact opposite of Obamao.

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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    Obamao is very, very much the exact opposite of Obamao.

                                    Really

                                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/zulus-in-last-stand-against-invasion-of-anc-forces-6171170.html

                                      Actually like so many third world war lords this was a struggle for power and not necessarily equality for all. The Zulus (and whites) died by the hundreds if not thousands.

                                      Apartheid was probably the least of your worries in South Africa. Unfair? Sure. How did Uganda look folks?

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                                      • F FairHooker11

                                        yea READ something

                                        I wouldnt and DONT give a rip about this "peace activist" either!

                                        because it is the work of a media scrub job...

                                        "Unfortunately, 1990 is where Mandela’s history begins and in 1999 is where it ends for most people. There is more.

                                        A man named Tony Hollingsworth claims to be the person who transformed Mandela from terrorist to beloved icon."

                                        "Hollingsworth, now 55, envisaged a star-studded concert that would transform Mandela from outlaw to icon in the public’s mind, and in turn press governments adopt a more accommodating stance.

                                        He approached Archbishop Trevor Huddleston, president of the British Anti-Apartheid Movement, to pitch his musical strategy.

                                        “I told Trevor that the African National Congress and the anti-apartheid movement had reached their glass ceiling; they couldn’t go further.”

                                        “Everything you are doing is ‘anti’, you are protesting on the streets, but it will remain in that space. Many people will agree, but you will not appeal them.”

                                        “Mandela and the movement should be seen as something positive, confident, something you would like to be in your living room with.”

                                        While Hollingsworth dealt with artists, Mike Terry — head of the movement in London — dealt with the ANC and the sceptics in the anti-apartheid movement.

                                        And there were many, including Mandela himself, who asked several times that the struggle not be about him.

                                        Many others insisted the focus remain on sanctions against the apartheid regime.

                                        “A lot of people were criticising me for sanitising it,” Hollingsworth remembered.

                                        Eventually Terry convinced the ANC and Hollingsworth convinced Simple Minds, Dire Straits, Sting, George Michael, The Eurythmics, Eric Clapton, Whitney Houston and Stevie Wonder into the 83-artist line up.

                                        With that musical firepower came contracts for a more than 11 hour broadcast.

                                        “We signed with the entertainment department of television (stations). And when the head of the department got home and watched on his channel that they were calling Mandela a terrorist, they called straight to the news section to say, don’t call this man a terrorist, we just signed 11 hours of broadcasting for a tribute about him.”

                                        “This is how we turned Mandela from a black terrorist into a black leader.”

                                        http://floppingaces.net/2013/12/07/mandela-beyond-the-image/

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                                        @fairhooker11 said:

                                        yea READ something

                                        I wouldnt and DONT give a rip about this "peace activist" either!

                                        because it is the work of a media scrub job...

                                        "Unfortunately, 1990 is where Mandelas history begins and in 1999 is where it ends for most people. There is more.

                                        A man named Tony Hollingsworth claims to be the person who transformed Mandela from terrorist to beloved icon."

                                        "Hollingsworth, now 55, envisaged a star-studded concert that would transform Mandela from outlaw to icon in the publics mind, and in turn press governments adopt a more accommodating stance.

                                        He approached Archbishop Trevor Huddleston, president of the British Anti-Apartheid Movement, to pitch his musical strategy.

                                        I told Trevor that the African National Congress and the anti-apartheid movement had reached their glass ceiling; they couldnt go further.

                                        Everything you are doing is anti, you are protesting on the streets, but it will remain in that space. Many people will agree, but you will not appeal them.

                                        Mandela and the movement should be seen as something positive, confident, something you would like to be in your living room with.

                                        While Hollingsworth dealt with artists, Mike Terry head of the movement in London dealt with the ANC and the sceptics in the anti-apartheid movement.

                                        And there were many, including Mandela himself, who asked several times that the struggle not be about him.

                                        Many others insisted the focus remain on sanctions against the apartheid regime.

                                        A lot of people were criticising me for sanitising it, Hollingsworth remembered.

                                        Eventually Terry convinced the ANC and Hollingsworth convinced Simple Minds, Dire Straits, Sting, George Michael, The Eurythmics, Eric Clapton, Whitney Houston and Stevie Wonder into the 83-artist line up.

                                        With that musical firepower came contracts for a more than 11 hour broadcast.

                                        We signed with the entertainment department of television (stations). And when the head of the department got home and watched on his channel that they were calling Mandela a terrorist, they called straight to the news section to say, dont call this man a terrorist, we just signed 11 hours of broadcasting for a tribute about him.

                                        This is how we turned Mandela from a black terrorist into a black leader.

                                        http://floppingaces.net/2013/12/07/mandela-beyond-the-image/

                                        He's black. Therefore his achievements mean more than other people who actually achieved more. That's racism for you. Liberals are the single most racist demographic. They THINK they're the least racist but holding an entire race to a lower standard is racist as fuck.

                                        Yeah he was the first black president of south Africa, so what? He was cal's favorite thing ever a Marxist, liberal, seditionist. I'm not going to put myself out pretending I give a dick that he's dead.

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                          I've read plenty and like I stated, I don't see anything he actually accomplished, except being a black leader of a country once ruled by whites.

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