The 30 Greatest Football Places In America
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Gipper, I love the list!
Speaking of Trinity University, isn't it in San Antonio, real close to Brackenridge Park? If so, & you DO get there, you have to go to that park. It was great in the '60s!!
Mike
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Funny you leave out Baltimore, only professional franchise to sell out every game in their history...home of three Super Bowl champions...have fun watching Ravens in playoffs again while you dream about a .500 season
Is "apt" funny to you? I put in 9 NFL markets. Do you think everyone of them should get a participation medal for just showing up on Sunday?
Though, Baltimore may have an argument. On the other hand, maybe Indianapolis has a better one.
Make your argument. Having sellouts when your team is winning ain't enough. Some areas have 40-50 years of sellouts.
Who would you take out if I put Baltimore in?
And if I put Baltimore in, then would not Washington/Philly/NYC/Boston have a gripe?
(FYI, I put this list together last year when the Ravens were playing at about a .500 level). And, by the way....the Ravens are also dreaming this year of a .500 season.
Is "apt" funny to you? I put in 9 NFL markets. Do you think everyone of them should get a participation medal for just showing up on Sunday?
Though, Baltimore may have an argument. On the other hand, maybe Indianapolis has a better one.
Make your argument. Having sellouts when your team is winning ain't enough. Some areas have 40-50 years of sellouts.
Who would you take out if I put Baltimore in?
And if I put Baltimore in, then would not Washington/Philly/NYC/Boston have a gripe?
(FYI, I put this list together last year when the Ravens were playing at about a .500 level). And, by the way....the Ravens are also dreaming this year of a .500 season.
And then they won the Super Bowl!
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Here is my list of the 30 greatest Football places in America. In alphabetical order. I didn't rank them....but that is something we can debate. Note that this can involve football at any level, pro, college...large and small, and high school.
Ann Arbor, Michigan. Yes, the town that hosts that school up north makes the list. They do after all average the highest attendance in all of college football
Auburn, Alabama. Home of Auburn Univ. which is a participant in one of the Top 5 college rivalries.
Austin, Texas. Home of the Big Dog in football crazy Texas. UT Longhorns.
Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Home of LSU Tigers.
Chicago, Illinois. Home of Da Bears. Plus, more PFHOF members were born in Chicago than any other city.
Cleveland, Ohio. The region is home to more pro football titles than any other. Is the only city to "save" its team from an attempt by a greedy owner to move it. (something the likes of Baltimore/St. Louis/Houston etc. were not able to do). Rabid fans despite recent losing problems. Plus it has one of the most storied high school rivalries in the nation. The Holy War: St. Ignatius vs. St. Edwards.
Columbia SC. Home of the Gamecocks of South Carolina U. You have to love that name, plus they are some of the most rabid college football fans in the country.
Columbus, Ohio. Home of the THE Ohio State Buckeyes which several entities have determined to be THE most popular college football team in the nation, with the largest fan base and among the most rabid fans, and some of the greatest traditions in the sport, e.g Script Ohio.
Dallas, Texas. Home, sorta, of The Cowboys, "America's Team". Well, lets just say that the media pays an inordinate amount of attention to them. They do have the cheerleaders, and it is alleged that they do have the largest fan base of all NFL teams.
Denver, Colorado. Home of the NFL team with probably the largest geographical following. Plus the fans are very ardent for the Broncos.
Gainesville, Florida. Home of The Florida Gators, probably Florida's most popular college program. Plus a lot of good high school football in that area.
Green Bay, Wisconsin. Home of the only community owned team in the NFL, the Packers. And the most successful. The Packers franchise has won the most championships in history. Title Town, USA
Kansas City, Missouri. Home of The Chief with one of the most ardent NFL fan bases who, despite a lack of on field success still follow their team.
Knoxville, Tennessee. Home of the Tennessee Volunteers, which lead the SEC in attendance regularly. And singing Rocky Top is a great tradition.
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. Home of the longest rivalry in college football, Lehigh/Lafeyette. Plus this working class area which includes the likes of Scranton, Easton, Allentown/Bethlehem produces great high school rivalry and talent.
Lincoln, Nebraska. Home of the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Los Angeles, California. Despite no longer having an NFL team, the area is dedicated to USC football...and produces some of the best football talent in the country from its high schools. Also hosts perhaps the greatest spectacle in football, The Rose Bowl and its parade.
Madison/Whitewater, Wisconsin. I combine these two cities into one unit as they are not that far apart. Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers which is highly popular. Whitewater is the home of The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater which is the 3 time defending Division III National Champion.
Miami, Florida. Home of the popular NFL Dolphins and the Miami Hurricanes, who used to be a big deal. Has also been frequent host of The Super Bowl Game. Also, fabulous football talent is produced from the areas high schools, such as Belle Glade and others.
New Orleans, Louisiana. The Saints helped rebuild this city after Katrina and enjoy wide popularity. Also, the most frequent and most popular site of The Super Bowl.
Norman, Oklahoma. Home of the Oklahoma Sooners one of the most successful college programs from a small state who along with Texas form the Red River Rivalry.
Oakland/East Bay, California. The Raiders, the Hell's Angels of the NFL, along with their crazy fan make the East Bay area a natural for this list. The icing on the cake however is the nearby Concord DeLaSalle High School which has won a record 6 USA Today National High School Championships. Plus, Cal ( or UC-Berkely if you prefer) is an upcoming progam that spent loads to improve their stadium.
Odessa, Texas. This area had not one, but two National Prime time TV shows somewhat centered around its high school football team. Friday Night Lights and Heroes. (Remember "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"? That cheerleader cheered for Odessa Tx.)
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Home of the popular and succesful Steelers as well as the Pitt Panthers. Area has also produced some legendary QBs like Joe Namath, Dan Marino, John Unitas, Jim Kelley, Joe Montana, as well as the likes of Tony Dorsett. Western PA high school was the site of Tom Cruise's football movie All The Right Moves
South Bend, Indiana. Home of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the most popular and successful college football program in history.
Stark County, Ohio. If I did list these in order, this would probably take #1. It is the birthplace of the National Football League and the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The city of Alliance hosts Mount Union University, which has won more Division III college Championship in history, and has appeared in over twice as many D-III title games as any other school. And it is the home of probably the most fabled high school rivalry in the nation: Massillon vs. Canton McKinley. Paul Brown graduated from and coached at Massillon and their 30,0000 seat stadium is named after him. And Canton McKinley's Fawcett Stadium is the site of the annual Hall of Fame game. What other high school has the NFL play a game in their stadium? Plus, though Glee says it is set in Lima, the school their is based on Canton McKinley.
State College, Pennsylvania. Despite recent trouble, it is home to one of the most popular and successful college football programs in the country, Penn St.
Tulsa, Oklahoma. Home of one of the other great high school rivalries: Jenks vs. Union.
Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Home of the defending champion Alabama Crimson Tide, one of the most successful college football programs in history.
Valdosta, Georgia. Home of Valdosta St. which has won several lower division national titles, an Valdosta HS which has won some USA Today national Championships.
For 31st place I have come up with the following candidates but cannot decide:
Athens, Ga.
Blacksburg Va.
Bryant-College Station TX
Clemson, SC
Fayetteville, Ark.
Morgantown, WVa
Sugarland, TX
Tallahassee, Fla.
Tyler, TX
You decide....or add any I may have missed.
Here is my list of the 30 greatest Football places in America. In alphabetical order. I didn't rank them....but that is something we can debate. Note that this can involve football at any level, pro, college...large and small, and high school.
Ann Arbor, Michigan. Yes, the town that hosts that school up north makes the list. They do after all average the highest attendance in all of college football
Auburn, Alabama. Home of Auburn Univ. which is a participant in one of the Top 5 college rivalries.
Austin, Texas. Home of the Big Dog in football crazy Texas. UT Longhorns.
Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Home of LSU Tigers.
Chicago, Illinois. Home of Da Bears. Plus, more PFHOF members were born in Chicago than any other city.
Cleveland, Ohio. The region is home to more pro football titles than any other. Is the only city to "save" its team from an attempt by a greedy owner to move it. (something the likes of Baltimore/St. Louis/Houston etc. were not able to do). Rabid fans despite recent losing problems. Plus it has one of the most storied high school rivalries in the nation. The Holy War: St. Ignatius vs. St. Edwards.
Columbia SC. Home of the Gamecocks of South Carolina U. You have to love that name, plus they are some of the most rabid college football fans in the country.
Columbus, Ohio. Home of the THE Ohio State Buckeyes which several entities have determined to be THE most popular college football team in the nation, with the largest fan base and among the most rabid fans, and some of the greatest traditions in the sport, e.g Script Ohio.
Dallas, Texas. Home, sorta, of The Cowboys, "America's Team". Well, lets just say that the media pays an inordinate amount of attention to them. They do have the cheerleaders, and it is alleged that they do have the largest fan base of all NFL teams.
Denver, Colorado. Home of the NFL team with probably the largest geographical following. Plus the fans are very ardent for the Broncos.
Gainesville, Florida. Home of The Florida Gators, probably Florida's most popular college program. Plus a lot of good high school football in that area.
Green Bay, Wisconsin. Home of the only community owned team in the NFL, the Packers. And the most successful. The Packers franchise has won the most championships in history. Title Town, USA
Kansas City, Missouri. Home of The Chief with one of the most ardent NFL fan bases who, despite a lack of on field success still follow their team.
Knoxville, Tennessee. Home of the Tennessee Volunteers, which lead the SEC in attendance regularly. And singing Rocky Top is a great tradition.
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. Home of the longest rivalry in college football, Lehigh/Lafeyette. Plus this working class area which includes the likes of Scranton, Easton, Allentown/Bethlehem produces great high school rivalry and talent.
Lincoln, Nebraska. Home of the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Los Angeles, California. Despite no longer having an NFL team, the area is dedicated to USC football...and produces some of the best football talent in the country from its high schools. Also hosts perhaps the greatest spectacle in football, The Rose Bowl and its parade.
Madison/Whitewater, Wisconsin. I combine these two cities into one unit as they are not that far apart. Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers which is highly popular. Whitewater is the home of The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater which is the 3 time defending Division III National Champion.
Miami, Florida. Home of the popular NFL Dolphins and the Miami Hurricanes, who used to be a big deal. Has also been frequent host of The Super Bowl Game. Also, fabulous football talent is produced from the areas high schools, such as Belle Glade and others.
New Orleans, Louisiana. The Saints helped rebuild this city after Katrina and enjoy wide popularity. Also, the most frequent and most popular site of The Super Bowl.
Norman, Oklahoma. Home of the Oklahoma Sooners one of the most successful college programs from a small state who along with Texas form the Red River Rivalry.
Oakland/East Bay, California. The Raiders, the Hell's Angels of the NFL, along with their crazy fan make the East Bay area a natural for this list. The icing on the cake however is the nearby Concord DeLaSalle High School which has won a record 6 USA Today National High School Championships. Plus, Cal ( or UC-Berkely if you prefer) is an upcoming progam that spent loads to improve their stadium.
Odessa, Texas. This area had not one, but two National Prime time TV shows somewhat centered around its high school football team. Friday Night Lights and Heroes. (Remember "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"? That cheerleader cheered for Odessa Tx.)
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Home of the popular and succesful Steelers as well as the Pitt Panthers. Area has also produced some legendary QBs like Joe Namath, Dan Marino, John Unitas, Jim Kelley, Joe Montana, as well as the likes of Tony Dorsett. Western PA high school was the site of Tom Cruise's football movie All The Right Moves
South Bend, Indiana. Home of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the most popular and successful college football program in history.
Stark County, Ohio. If I did list these in order, this would probably take #1. It is the birthplace of the National Football League and the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The city of Alliance hosts Mount Union University, which has won more Division III college Championship in history, and has appeared in over twice as many D-III title games as any other school. And it is the home of probably the most fabled high school rivalry in the nation: Massillon vs. Canton McKinley. Paul Brown graduated from and coached at Massillon and their 30,0000 seat stadium is named after him. And Canton McKinley's Fawcett Stadium is the site of the annual Hall of Fame game. What other high school has the NFL play a game in their stadium? Plus, though Glee says it is set in Lima, the school their is based on Canton McKinley.
State College, Pennsylvania. Despite recent trouble, it is home to one of the most popular and successful college football programs in the country, Penn St.
Tulsa, Oklahoma. Home of one of the other great high school rivalries: Jenks vs. Union.
Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Home of the defending champion Alabama Crimson Tide, one of the most successful college football programs in history.
Valdosta, Georgia. Home of Valdosta St. which has won several lower division national titles, an Valdosta HS which has won some USA Today national Championships.
For 31st place I have come up with the following candidates but cannot decide:
Athens, Ga.
Blacksburg Va.
Bryant-College Station TX
Clemson, SC
Fayetteville, Ark.
Morgantown, WVa
Sugarland, TX
Tallahassee, Fla.
Tyler, TX
You decide....or add any I may have missed.
Here is my list of the 30 greatest Football places in America. In alphabetical order. I didn't rank them....but that is something we can debate. Note that this can involve football at any level, pro, college...large and small, and high school.
Ann Arbor, Michigan. Yes, the town that hosts that school up north makes the list. They do after all average the highest attendance in all of college football
Auburn, Alabama. Home of Auburn Univ. which is a participant in one of the Top 5 college rivalries.
Austin, Texas. Home of the Big Dog in football crazy Texas. UT Longhorns.
Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Home of LSU Tigers.
Chicago, Illinois. Home of Da Bears. Plus, more PFHOF members were born in Chicago than any other city.
Cleveland, Ohio. The region is home to more pro football titles than any other. Is the only city to "save" its team from an attempt by a greedy owner to move it. (something the likes of Baltimore/St. Louis/Houston etc. were not able to do). Rabid fans despite recent losing problems. Plus it has one of the most storied high school rivalries in the nation. The Holy War: St. Ignatius vs. St. Edwards.
Columbia SC. Home of the Gamecocks of South Carolina U. You have to love that name, plus they are some of the most rabid college football fans in the country.
Columbus, Ohio. Home of the THE Ohio State Buckeyes which several entities have determined to be THE most popular college football team in the nation, with the largest fan base and among the most rabid fans, and some of the greatest traditions in the sport, e.g Script Ohio.
Dallas, Texas. Home, sorta, of The Cowboys, "America's Team". Well, lets just say that the media pays an inordinate amount of attention to them. They do have the cheerleaders, and it is alleged that they do have the largest fan base of all NFL teams.
Denver, Colorado. Home of the NFL team with probably the largest geographical following. Plus the fans are very ardent for the Broncos.
Gainesville, Florida. Home of The Florida Gators, probably Florida's most popular college program. Plus a lot of good high school football in that area.
Green Bay, Wisconsin. Home of the only community owned team in the NFL, the Packers. And the most successful. The Packers franchise has won the most championships in history. Title Town, USA
Kansas City, Missouri. Home of The Chief with one of the most ardent NFL fan bases who, despite a lack of on field success still follow their team.
Knoxville, Tennessee. Home of the Tennessee Volunteers, which lead the SEC in attendance regularly. And singing Rocky Top is a great tradition.
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. Home of the longest rivalry in college football, Lehigh/Lafeyette. Plus this working class area which includes the likes of Scranton, Easton, Allentown/Bethlehem produces great high school rivalry and talent.
Lincoln, Nebraska. Home of the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Los Angeles, California. Despite no longer having an NFL team, the area is dedicated to USC football...and produces some of the best football talent in the country from its high schools. Also hosts perhaps the greatest spectacle in football, The Rose Bowl and its parade.
Madison/Whitewater, Wisconsin. I combine these two cities into one unit as they are not that far apart. Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers which is highly popular. Whitewater is the home of The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater which is the 3 time defending Division III National Champion.
Miami, Florida. Home of the popular NFL Dolphins and the Miami Hurricanes, who used to be a big deal. Has also been frequent host of The Super Bowl Game. Also, fabulous football talent is produced from the areas high schools, such as Belle Glade and others.
New Orleans, Louisiana. The Saints helped rebuild this city after Katrina and enjoy wide popularity. Also, the most frequent and most popular site of The Super Bowl.
Norman, Oklahoma. Home of the Oklahoma Sooners one of the most successful college programs from a small state who along with Texas form the Red River Rivalry.
Oakland/East Bay, California. The Raiders, the Hell's Angels of the NFL, along with their crazy fan make the East Bay area a natural for this list. The icing on the cake however is the nearby Concord DeLaSalle High School which has won a record 6 USA Today National High School Championships. Plus, Cal ( or UC-Berkely if you prefer) is an upcoming progam that spent loads to improve their stadium.
Odessa, Texas. This area had not one, but two National Prime time TV shows somewhat centered around its high school football team. Friday Night Lights and Heroes. (Remember "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"? That cheerleader cheered for Odessa Tx.)
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Home of the popular and succesful Steelers as well as the Pitt Panthers. Area has also produced some legendary QBs like Joe Namath, Dan Marino, John Unitas, Jim Kelley, Joe Montana, as well as the likes of Tony Dorsett. Western PA high school was the site of Tom Cruise's football movie All The Right Moves
South Bend, Indiana. Home of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the most popular and successful college football program in history.
Stark County, Ohio. If I did list these in order, this would probably take #1. It is the birthplace of the National Football League and the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The city of Alliance hosts Mount Union University, which has won more Division III college Championship in history, and has appeared in over twice as many D-III title games as any other school. And it is the home of probably the most fabled high school rivalry in the nation: Massillon vs. Canton McKinley. Paul Brown graduated from and coached at Massillon and their 30,0000 seat stadium is named after him. And Canton McKinley's Fawcett Stadium is the site of the annual Hall of Fame game. What other high school has the NFL play a game in their stadium? Plus, though Glee says it is set in Lima, the school their is based on Canton McKinley.
State College, Pennsylvania. Despite recent trouble, it is home to one of the most popular and successful college football programs in the country, Penn St.
Tulsa, Oklahoma. Home of one of the other great high school rivalries: Jenks vs. Union.
Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Home of the defending champion Alabama Crimson Tide, one of the most successful college football programs in history.
Valdosta, Georgia. Home of Valdosta St. which has won several lower division national titles, an Valdosta HS which has won some USA Today national Championships.
For 31st place I have come up with the following candidates but cannot decide:
Athens, Ga.
Blacksburg Va.
Bryant-College Station TX
Clemson, SC
Fayetteville, Ark.
Morgantown, WVa
Sugarland, TX
Tallahassee, Fla.
Tyler, TX
You decide....or add any I may have missed.
Ann harbor. Have u ever sat in that stadium. Its a joke. Whereas the average seat with is about sixteen inches. The big house gives u a luxurious 12 inch wide chair to sit in.
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Cleveland, Ohio. The region is home to more pro football titles than any other. Is the only city to "save" its team from an attempt by a greedy owner to move it. (something the likes of Baltimore/St. Louis/Houston etc. were not able to do). Rabid fans despite recent losing problems. Plus it has one of the most storied high school rivalries in the nation. The Holy War: St. Ignatius vs. St. Edwards.
Stark County, Ohio. If I did list these in order, this would probably take #1. It is the birthplace of the National Football League and the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The city of Alliance hosts Mount Union University, which has won more Division III college Championship in history, and has appeared in over twice as many D-III title games as any other school. And it is the home of probably the most fabled high school rivalry in the nation: Massillon vs. Canton McKinley. Paul Brown graduated from and coached at Massillon and their 30,0000 seat stadium is named after him. And Canton McKinley's Fawcett Stadium is the site of the annual Hall of Fame game. What other high school has the NFL play a game in their stadium? Plus, though Glee says it is set in Lima, the school their is based on Canton McKinley.
I agree with Cysko on too many Ohio places being listed. You mention that the Cleveland, Ohio region is home to more pro football titles than any other, but that's only if you include Akron and Canton. Then you set aside another spot for just the Akron and Canton region.
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Gipper, I love the list!
Speaking of Trinity University, isn't it in San Antonio, real close to Brackenridge Park? If so, & you DO get there, you have to go to that park. It was great in the '60s!!
Mike
Gipper, I love the list!
Speaking of Trinity University, isn't it in San Antonio, real close to Brackenridge Park? If so, & you DO get there, you have to go to that park. It was great in the '60s!!
Mike
It is where my daughter matriculates the ball down the field. I will have to ask her about that park. I am unfamiliar with it. And I suspect she spends all her time on campus.
60s huh? Was it like Itchycoo park?
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Cleveland, Ohio. The region is home to more pro football titles than any other. Is the only city to "save" its team from an attempt by a greedy owner to move it. (something the likes of Baltimore/St. Louis/Houston etc. were not able to do). Rabid fans despite recent losing problems. Plus it has one of the most storied high school rivalries in the nation. The Holy War: St. Ignatius vs. St. Edwards.
Stark County, Ohio. If I did list these in order, this would probably take #1. It is the birthplace of the National Football League and the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The city of Alliance hosts Mount Union University, which has won more Division III college Championship in history, and has appeared in over twice as many D-III title games as any other school. And it is the home of probably the most fabled high school rivalry in the nation: Massillon vs. Canton McKinley. Paul Brown graduated from and coached at Massillon and their 30,0000 seat stadium is named after him. And Canton McKinley's Fawcett Stadium is the site of the annual Hall of Fame game. What other high school has the NFL play a game in their stadium? Plus, though Glee says it is set in Lima, the school their is based on Canton McKinley.
I agree with Cysko on too many Ohio places being listed. You mention that the Cleveland, Ohio region is home to more pro football titles than any other, but that's only if you include Akron and Canton. Then you set aside another spot for just the Akron and Canton region.
I agree with Cysko on too many Ohio places being listed. You mention that the Cleveland, Ohio region is home to more pro football titles than any other, but that's only if you include Akron and Canton. Then you set aside another spot for just the Akron and Canton region.
Ohio has only 3 locations: Cleveland/Stark Co./Columbus. Other states also have 3. PA/Tex. If you do not think that Ohio is one of the preeminent football states in America....then I have to ask which America you are living in.
Even if you separate the Akron and Canton areas, Cleveland still has more pro titles than anywhere except Green Bay. I mean, I am not going to take Cleveland out to put Baltimore in.....and surely the likes of Kansas City, Denver, New Orleans and other places I put in there for their NFL connections would not supersede Cleveland.
( I might say that one of those could go out to let Baltimore in).
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You're including all thirty when you say Texas has 3 and pa has 3. Ohio is overrepresented on your top ten list.
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You're including all thirty when you say Texas has 3 and pa has 3. Ohio is overrepresented on your top ten list.
You're including all thirty when you say Texas has 3 and pa has 3. Ohio is overrepresented on your top ten list.
Yes, WTF did you think I was talking about. Out of the 30 Texas has 3 (Dallas/Austin/Odessa), PA has 3 (Pitt/State College/Lehigh Valley), and Ohio has 3 (Cleveland/Columbus/Stark Co.)
Ohio has precisely the right number in the list.
Here is how all states are represented:
Texas 3
Ohio 3
Penn. 3
Alabama 2
Florida 2
Louisiana 2
Wisconsin 2
California 2
Oklahoma 2
Michigan 1
Illinois 1
S. Carolina 1
Colorado 1
Missouri 1
Tenn. 1
Nebraska 1
Indiana 1
Georgia 1
What? You want a participation medal for every state? Mad because I didn't include Vermont and Delaware?
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Funny you leave out Baltimore, only professional franchise to sell out every game in their history...home of three Super Bowl champions...have fun watching Ravens in playoffs again while you dream about a .500 season
Is "apt" funny to you? I put in 9 NFL markets. Do you think everyone of them should get a participation medal for just showing up on Sunday?
Though, Baltimore may have an argument. On the other hand, maybe Indianapolis has a better one.
Make your argument. Having sellouts when your team is winning ain't enough. Some areas have 40-50 years of sellouts.
Who would you take out if I put Baltimore in?
And if I put Baltimore in, then would not Washington/Philly/NYC/Boston have a gripe?
(FYI, I put this list together last year when the Ravens were playing at about a .500 level). And, by the way....the Ravens are also dreaming this year of a .500 season.
Is "apt" funny to you? I put in 9 NFL markets. Do you think everyone of them should get a participation medal for just showing up on Sunday?
Though, Baltimore may have an argument. On the other hand, maybe Indianapolis has a better one.
Make your argument. Having sellouts when your team is winning ain't enough. Some areas have 40-50 years of sellouts.
Who would you take out if I put Baltimore in?
And if I put Baltimore in, then would not Washington/Philly/NYC/Boston have a gripe?
(FYI, I put this list together last year when the Ravens were playing at about a .500 level). And, by the way....the Ravens are also dreaming this year of a .500 season.
Don't even know why I bothered, stupid list anyway, lets see..Baltimore Colts in greatest game ever played...put NFL on map, Baltimore Colts in most important NFL game ever..Super Bowl 3..how can you have PIttsburgh on there...so they won four Super Bowls in 70's which created lots of bandwagon fans...now that they are not so dominant i see lots of fans disguised as yellow empty seats at one of NFL's smallest stadiums
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Is "apt" funny to you? I put in 9 NFL markets. Do you think everyone of them should get a participation medal for just showing up on Sunday?
Though, Baltimore may have an argument. On the other hand, maybe Indianapolis has a better one.
Make your argument. Having sellouts when your team is winning ain't enough. Some areas have 40-50 years of sellouts.
Who would you take out if I put Baltimore in?
And if I put Baltimore in, then would not Washington/Philly/NYC/Boston have a gripe?
(FYI, I put this list together last year when the Ravens were playing at about a .500 level). And, by the way....the Ravens are also dreaming this year of a .500 season.
Don't even know why I bothered, stupid list anyway, lets see..Baltimore Colts in greatest game ever played...put NFL on map, Baltimore Colts in most important NFL game ever..Super Bowl 3..how can you have PIttsburgh on there...so they won four Super Bowls in 70's which created lots of bandwagon fans...now that they are not so dominant i see lots of fans disguised as yellow empty seats at one of NFL's smallest stadiums
Don't even know why I bothered, stupid list anyway, lets see..Baltimore Colts in greatest game ever played...put NFL on map, Baltimore Colts in most important NFL game ever..Super Bowl 3..how can you have PIttsburgh on there...so they won four Super Bowls in 70's which created lots of bandwagon fans...now that they are not so dominant i see lots of fans disguised as yellow empty seats at one of NFL's smallest stadiums
OK, OK I am buying your argument, see I am flexible (just like when I agreed to put on Oxford Miss. for Ghoolie and Ballpeen).....though I would not take Pittsburgh off. Perhaps Denver/KC/New Orleans.
(some dumbasses would argue that the Colts history belong to Indy......I do not. Any more than those who argue that the Browns history belongs to Baltimore......I assume you are not one of them).
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OK, here is my revised list, having succumbed to valid arguments about Oxford Ms. and Baltimore
Ann Arbor, Michigan. Yes, the town that hosts that school up north makes the list. They do after all average the highest attendance in all of college football
Auburn, Alabama. Home of Auburn Univ. which is a participant in one of the Top 5 college rivalries.
Austin, Texas. Home of the Big Dog in football crazy Texas. UT Longhorns.
Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Home of LSU Tigers.Baltimore. Home of the first Colts....a team from the AAFC that joined the NFL but didn't last, and of the second Colts....which played in the "Greatest Game Ever Played", and is the team that the Browns last beat for a title....plus they were the victims of Joe Namath in SBIII....but got some revenge when Johnny Unitas led them to a title 2 years later. Plus now home of 2 time SB Champ Ravens.
Chicago, Illinois. Home of Da Bears. Plus, more PFHOF members were born in Chicago than any other city.
Cleveland, Ohio. The region is home to more pro football titles than any other. Is the only city to "save" its team from an attempt by a greedy owner to move it. (something the likes of Baltimore/St. Louis/Houston etc. were not able to do). Rabid fans despite recent losing problems. Plus it has one of the most storied high school rivalries in the nation. The Holy War: St. Ignatius vs. St. Edwards.
Columbia SC. Home of the Gamecocks of South Carolina U. You have to love that name, plus they are some of the most rabid college football fans in the country.
Columbus, Ohio. Home of the THE Ohio State Buckeyes which several entities have determined to be THE most popular college football team in the nation, with the largest fan base and among the most rabid fans, and some of the greatest traditions in the sport, e.g Script Ohio.
Dallas, Texas. Home, sorta, of The Cowboys, "America's Team". Well, lets just say that the media pays an inordinate amount of attention to them. They do have the cheerleaders, and it is alleged that they do have the largest fan base of all NFL teams.
Denver, Colorado. Home of the NFL team with probably the largest geographical following. Plus the fans are very ardent for the Broncos.
Gainesville, Florida. Home of The Florida Gators, probably Florida's most popular college program. Plus a lot of good high school football in that area.
Green Bay, Wisconsin. Home of the only community owned team in the NFL, the Packers. And the most successful. The Packers franchise has won the most championships in history. Title Town, USA
Kansas City, Missouri. Home of The Chief with one of the most ardent NFL fan bases who, despite a lack of on field success still follow their team.
Knoxville, Tennessee. Home of the Tennessee Volunteers, which lead the SEC in attendance regularly. And singing Rocky Top is a great tradition.
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. Home of the longest rivalry in college football, Lehigh/Lafeyette. Plus this working class area which includes the likes of Scranton, Easton, Allentown/Bethlehem produces great high school rivalry and talent.
Lincoln, Nebraska. Home of the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Los Angeles, California. Despite no longer having an NFL team, the area is dedicated to USC football...and produces some of the best football talent in the country from its high schools. Also hosts perhaps the greatest spectacle in football, The Rose Bowl and its parade.
Madison/Whitewater, Wisconsin. I combine these two cities into one unit as they are not that far apart. Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers which is highly popular. Whitewater is the home of The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater which is the 3 time defending Division III National Champion.
Miami, Florida. Home of the popular NFL Dolphins and the Miami Hurricanes, who used to be a big deal. Has also been frequent host of The Super Bowl Game. Also, fabulous football talent is produced from the areas high schools, such as Belle Glade and others.
New Orleans, Louisiana. The Saints helped rebuild this city after Katrina and enjoy wide popularity. Also, the most frequent and most popular site of The Super Bowl.
Norman, Oklahoma. Home of the Oklahoma Sooners one of the most successful college programs from a small state who along with Texas form the Red River Rivalry.
Oakland/East Bay, California. The Raiders, the Hell's Angels of the NFL, along with their crazy fan make the East Bay area a natural for this list. The icing on the cake however is the nearby Concord DeLaSalle High School which has won a record 6 USA Today National High School Championships. Plus, Cal ( or UC-Berkely if you prefer) is an upcoming progam that spent loads to improve their stadium.
Odessa, Texas. This area had not one, but two National Prime time TV shows somewhat centered around its high school football team. Friday Night Lights and Heroes. (Remember "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"? That cheerleader cheered for Odessa Tx.)Oxford, Mississippi. Home of the Running Rebs of Ole Miss. We all take Ghoolie and Ballpeen's word for what a great place for football this is....even though that team has not had a great deal of on field success.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Home of the popular and succesful Steelers as well as the Pitt Panthers. Area has also produced some legendary QBs like Joe Namath, Dan Marino, John Unitas, Jim Kelley, Joe Montana, as well as the likes of Tony Dorsett. Western PA high school was the site of Tom Cruise's football movie All The Right Moves
South Bend, Indiana. Home of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the most popular and successful college football program in history.
Stark County, Ohio. If I did list these in order, this would probably take #1. It is the birthplace of the National Football League and the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The city of Alliance hosts Mount Union University, which has won more Division III college Championship in history, and has appeared in over twice as many D-III title games as any other school. And it is the home of probably the most fabled high school rivalry in the nation: Massillon vs. Canton McKinley. Paul Brown graduated from and coached at Massillon and their 30,0000 seat stadium is named after him. And Canton McKinley's Fawcett Stadium is the site of the annual Hall of Fame game. What other high school has the NFL play a game in their stadium? Plus, though Glee says it is set in Lima, the school their is based on Canton McKinley.
State College, Pennsylvania. Despite recent trouble, it is home to one of the most popular and successful college football programs in the country, Penn St.
Tulsa, Oklahoma. Home of one of the other great high school rivalries: Jenks vs. Union.
Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Home of the defending champion Alabama Crimson Tide, one of the most successful college football programs in history.
Valdosta, Georgia. Home of Valdosta St. which has won several lower division national titles, an Valdosta HS which has won some USA Today national Championships.
For 31st place I have come up with the following candidates but cannot decide:
Athens, Ga.
Blacksburg Va.
Bryant-College Station TX
Clemson, SC
Fayetteville, Ark.Kansas City
Knoxville Tn
Morgantown, WVa
Sugarland, TX
Tallahassee, Fla.
Tyler, TX -
I give this thread a bump in order to give Kudos to both Ballpeen and Ghoolie for advocating for Oxford, Mississippi to be on the list of Top 30 Football places in America. It now appears that they were prescient as Ole Miss kicked Bama to the curb Saturday. and Mississippi St. as well prevailed.
But note to Ballpeen, in order to put Oxford Miss. in, I had to take an SEC area out, and I chose Tennessee. Not sure if I am right about that, but there it is.
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You're including all thirty when you say Texas has 3 and pa has 3. Ohio is overrepresented on your top ten list.
You're including all thirty when you say Texas has 3 and pa has 3. Ohio is overrepresented on your top ten list.
Give your substitute Top Ten, if you don't like mine.
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I give this thread a bump in order to give Kudos to both Ballpeen and Ghoolie for advocating for Oxford, Mississippi to be on the list of Top 30 Football places in America. It now appears that they were prescient as Ole Miss kicked Bama to the curb Saturday. and Mississippi St. as well prevailed.
But note to Ballpeen, in order to put Oxford Miss. in, I had to take an SEC area out, and I chose Tennessee. Not sure if I am right about that, but there it is.
I give this thread a bump in order to give Kudos to both Ballpeen and Ghoolie for advocating for Oxford, Mississippi to be on the list of Top 30 Football places in America. It now appears that they were prescient as Ole Miss kicked Bama to the curb Saturday. and Mississippi St. as well prevailed.
But note to Ballpeen, in order to put Oxford Miss. in, I had to take an SEC area out, and I chose Tennessee. Not sure if I am right about that, but there it is.
Thanks, but you have to keep Tennessee in....usually a good program, the Pride of the Southland Band, and you have to admit, really cool endzones take it over the top. I'd dump a HS program, but not Valdosta...have you ever seen that HS stadium? Puts small college programs to shame Probably 12,000 seats and standing room for another 5....and they fill it every Friday night...and Valdosta isn't a total podunk town. There are some decent Friday night options. It probably is about 50,000 people in the city. Not big by Ohio standards, but in the middle of south Georgia peanut country, that is where people head.
Google search...hit a few links....more HS wins than any HS program...a great HS program
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I give this thread a bump in order to give Kudos to both Ballpeen and Ghoolie for advocating for Oxford, Mississippi to be on the list of Top 30 Football places in America. It now appears that they were prescient as Ole Miss kicked Bama to the curb Saturday. and Mississippi St. as well prevailed.
But note to Ballpeen, in order to put Oxford Miss. in, I had to take an SEC area out, and I chose Tennessee. Not sure if I am right about that, but there it is.
Thanks, but you have to keep Tennessee in....usually a good program, the Pride of the Southland Band, and you have to admit, really cool endzones take it over the top. I'd dump a HS program, but not Valdosta...have you ever seen that HS stadium? Puts small college programs to shame Probably 12,000 seats and standing room for another 5....and they fill it every Friday night...and Valdosta isn't a total podunk town. There are some decent Friday night options. It probably is about 50,000 people in the city. Not big by Ohio standards, but in the middle of south Georgia peanut country, that is where people head.
Google search...hit a few links....more HS wins than any HS program...a great HS program
Thanks, but you have to keep Tennessee in....usually a good program, the Pride of the Southland Band, and you have to admit, really cool endzones take it over the top. I'd dump a HS program, but not Valdosta...have you ever seen that HS stadium? Puts small college programs to shame Probably 12,000 seats and standing room for another 5....and they fill it every Friday night...and Valdosta isn't a total podunk town. There are some decent Friday night options. It probably is about 50,000 people in the city. Not big by Ohio standards, but in the middle of south Georgia peanut country, that is where people head.
Google search...hit a few links....more HS wins than any HS program...a great HS program
I actually only have 2 strictly HS locations on the list. Valdosta and Odessa, so I don't want to drop them.
If Knoxville and Oxford stay, then the only two I see to drop one would be either Gainesville or Auburn. In deference to you, Gatorland, I would say Auburn.
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Why wouldn't Ohio be represented 3 times in the top ten? It's the birthplace of professional football. Columbus had the NFL headquarters for quite some time. Which location in ohio would you love down the list?
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you forgot to mention woody hayes in your OSU comments.
I'm sure you mentioned Bear at bama?
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Miami in the top 10 removes all sanity you had in your list.
Miami was in there because it has significant presence at all levels of the game. The Miami area does produce many, many great players, and a school or two from that area is always in the running for the top HS team in the land.
Love them or hate them the Miami Hurricanes have/had been one of the premier college programs in the land, competing for and winning a number of national titles. And the Dolphins....at least for the like 30 years that Shula was coaching them were one of the premier NFL teams going.
This list isn't just a right here, right now list. It is an historical list.
(and again, note that it was originally compiled like 3 years agoe)
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you forgot to mention woody hayes in your OSU comments.
I'm sure you mentioned Bear at bama?
you forgot to mention woody hayes in your OSU comments.
I'm sure you mentioned Bear at bama?
You talkin' to me? I just assumed that Hayes and Bryant would go without saying when listing those programs. Just like it went without saying that Ara Paraseghian, Frank Layden, Knute Rockne are part of Notre Dame history.
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