Nelson Mandela
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Apparently, everyone here except cal think apartheid was just a fun walk in the park for the native majority...
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Minority rule is never a walk in the park for the majority. Get fucking real. How do you think the Christian majority of the central African republic or whatever is dealing with the minority Muslims in power. Right, they're all barricaded in the airport being guarded by the French
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Lest we forget that one of the Opposition political groups was the Zulus. Mandela and the African National Congress killed plenty of them.
And remember that the lack of Western democracy did not stop South Africa from being about the only reasonably civilized area on the continent.
WSS
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Apparently, everyone here except cal think apartheid was just a fun walk in the park for the native majority...
Apparently, everyone here except cal think apartheid was just a fun walk in the park for the native majority...
Not really. It's just that anyone with any knowledge of the subject understands that Mandela's successes were built upon the broken bones of Steve Biko's face and that those of us find the deification of "Madiba" slightly sickening.
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Apparently, everyone here except cal think apartheid was just a fun walk in the park for the native majority...
Not really. It's just that anyone with any knowledge of the subject understands that Mandela's successes were built upon the broken bones of Steve Biko's face and that those of us find the deification of "Madiba" slightly sickening.
Not really. It's just that anyone with any knowledge of the subject understands that Mandela's successes were built upon the broken bones of Steve Biko's face and that those of us find the deification of "Madiba" slightly sickening.
He learned from his life mistakes and became an outspoken advocate of nonviolent struggle. I don't see all the Christians here condemning St. Paul because he had Christians tortured and executed before his conversion...
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Not really. It's just that anyone with any knowledge of the subject understands that Mandela's successes were built upon the broken bones of Steve Biko's face and that those of us find the deification of "Madiba" slightly sickening.
He learned from his life mistakes and became an outspoken advocate of nonviolent struggle. I don't see all the Christians here condemning St. Paul because he had Christians tortured and executed before his conversion...
He learned from his life mistakes and became an outspoken advocate of nonviolent struggle. I don't see all the Christians here condemning St. Peter because he had Christians tortured and executed before his conversion...
That was Saul -> Paul.
And Paul gets shat on quite frequently here (or did, i've been M.I.A. for a while).
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And then there's this:
"If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don't care for human beings." c.2003
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Okay, I retract my statement. After all, Obamao heartily supports him, so he must be evil.
Not one of my more informed subjects....
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Okay, I retract my statement. After all, Obamao heartily supports him, so he must be evil.
Not one of my more informed subjects....
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obviously, hypoallergenic puppies are just obama's way of making everyone dependent on his hundreds of puppy farms across the country and driving the big republican donor pharmaceutical companies out of business. plus, it's been proven that if you take in a hypoallergenic puppy you're 83% less likely to own a gun, all part of his plan to violate (y)our 2nd amendment rights.

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obviously, hypoallergenic puppies are just obama's way of making everyone dependent on his hundreds of puppy farms across the country and driving the big republican donor pharmaceutical companies out of business. plus, it's been proven that if you take in a hypoallergenic puppy you're 83% less likely to own a gun, all part of his plan to violate (y)our 2nd amendment rights.

obviously, hypoallergenic puppies are just obama's way of making everyone dependent on his hundreds of puppy farms across the country and driving the big republican donor pharmaceutical companies out of business. plus, it's been proven that if you take in a hypoallergenic puppy you're 83% less likely to own a gun, all part of his plan to violate (y)our 2nd amendment rights.

Nicely spoken from a non-citizen. Don't really care about your viewpoints on 2nd amendment.
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We have a hypoallergenic dog and he's killed as many birds as I have so far this year.
#Murica
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That will be changing next week, btw.
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That will be changing next week, btw.
That will be changing next week, btw.

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obviously, hypoallergenic puppies are just obama's way of making everyone dependent on his hundreds of puppy farms across the country and driving the big republican donor pharmaceutical companies out of business. plus, it's been proven that if you take in a hypoallergenic puppy you're 83% less likely to own a gun, all part of his plan to violate (y)our 2nd amendment rights.

obviously, hypoallergenic puppies are just obama's way of making everyone dependent on his hundreds of puppy farms across the country and driving the big republican donor pharmaceutical companies out of business. plus, it's been proven that if you take in a hypoallergenic puppy you're 83% less likely to own a gun, all part of his plan to violate (y)our 2nd amendment rights.


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obviously, hypoallergenic puppies are just obama's way of making everyone dependent on his hundreds of puppy farms across the country and driving the big republican donor pharmaceutical companies out of business. plus, it's been proven that if you take in a hypoallergenic puppy you're 83% less likely to own a gun, all part of his plan to violate (y)our 2nd amendment rights.

Nicely spoken from a non-citizen. Don't really care about your viewpoints on 2nd amendment.
Nicely spoken from a non-citizen. Don't really care about your viewpoints on 2nd amendment.
I don't care about your viewpoints on anything, really, but I'm not going to stop you posting them.
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Back to your point Osiris, I agree with you. One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. Still I don't necessarily agree with likening him to Arafat but not bin Laden. It's not that I disagree with the Arafat reference but I can understand how a certain group of people might think Osama bin Laden was a hero. I wonder how the British feel about George Washington. Or the southerners about Abraham Lincoln. We all like to pretend that our guys are the good guys and it when they go to war it's clean and above board. But we all know that's bullshit. War is disgusting brutal nasty and just chock full of rape pillage and plunder torture, all that good shit from both sides. But I freely admit my hypocrisy and root for my circle of guys. One of the overused catch phrases in the media is lustung whatever atrocities a dictator commits and then add, against his own people! How many of Lincoln's own people did he kill? Washington?
But Nelson Mandela is a hero or because he murdered white people. There are plenty of African nations a lot shittier than South Africa but their dictators and victims are black so nobody gives a shit.
WSS
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Nicely spoken from a non-citizen. Don't really care about your viewpoints on 2nd amendment.
I don't care about your viewpoints on anything, really, but I'm not going to stop you posting them.
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