Risers and Sliders
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At least Rey picked it up and brought it hard!!!
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Shit.... does that mean Jennings moved up to the first round..... damn it!!! This pisses me off
Maualuga and Jennings is a pipe dream now?
Shit.... does that mean Jennings moved up to the first round..... damn it!!! This pisses me off
Maualuga and Jennings is a pipe dream now?
I don't think Jennings will move into the first round. There are a lot of great RBs in this draft. Maybe two or three (max) get picked in the first round.
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Shit.... does that mean Jennings moved up to the first round..... damn it!!! This pisses me off
Maualuga and Jennings is a pipe dream now?
Shit.... does that mean Jennings moved up to the first round..... damn it!!! This pisses me off
Maualuga and Jennings is a pipe dream now?
Well, the top two RB's are juniors (Moreno, Wells), and I'm not sure Jennings rates higher than LeSean McCoy.
It's a virtual lock that 5-7 RB's will be taken in the first two rounds. In the last ten years, only in 2003 were less than 5 taken.
I imagine Jennings is now a lock to be one of those 5-7, but I doubt he'll make it all the way into Round 1.
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@shepwrite said:
Surprised Clay didn't get mentioned here.Good point. Both he & Cody Brown deserve to be on Pauline's list.
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Aloysius said:
No. The practices are much more important than the actual game, as evidenced by the fact that GM's leave on Thursday & Friday.I disagree.....standing out in tonights game will confirm or deny what they do in practice. last year??? Trevor laws, rogers-cromartie, keith rivers, a bunch of O-lineman, but mostly the DB from Troy whom Buffalo used as top pick in first(name alludes me). JMO... but they all have coaches tape of the game, have scouts remain and on a personal note.....I want guys who play big in big games.....and this is a hugee game for these kids. For example....for me if Rey has a monster game I will remain a vocal cheerleader on these boards for him as a pick...if he is average tonight....I'll lean towards a different player.
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i hope jennings stays in the second, likewise with shonn greene. we seem to have forgotten about him around these parts, but he's still someone i'd be happy to have on the team as part of a RBBC. jennings seems more able to carry the load on his own, meaning he'll likely go before greene.
it kills me that english looks like a late first guy. he's who i really want at this point if we don't get curry. his physical skills definitely moved him ahead of sintim, who seemed a lock for the lower third of the first before the senior bowl; english's burst off the ball and speed around the corner were far superior to anything sintim showed during the week. C3 looked better than sintim did, too. i just hope that the game film on sintim keeps him ahead of either matthews or english, both of whom look like they'll be decent at the least.
running down the 3-4 teams that could use english:
green bay, i would think, is a virtual lock to take raji at nine.
san fran could use a pass rusher, but will likely take everette brown or aaron maybin if they go that direction. in the unlikely event that sanchez falls to them, they'll gladly snatch him up.
denver has a decent pass rusher in elvis dumervil, so they will likely go ILB and take maualuga if he falls to them.
san diego is getting merriman back and has a decent cast on defense. they need a real RB to replace tomlinson or possibly a WR, though rivers seems to have done well with their current receiving corps.
everyone says cushing goes to new england, but i think they're the first team that's likely to take english. they need to add to their LB corps and are smart enough to figure out who'll be a good OLB and who won't. not to say that cushing won't; english just looks like a stud.
miami has a pass rush and a decent front seven. look for them to upgrade their secondary or their o-line or to look for a replacement to crowder if they let him walk.
baltimore is another team that could take english, especially if they let suggs walk (which they won't). this pick, i think, will be either a WR or RB to help out flacco and/or take some of the pressure off derrick mason, who's the only viable receiver on that team.
if he's there, pittsburgh takes tyson jackson. no doubt in my mind.
last, we still have to hope english or matthews makes it past KC in the second, two picks in front of us, not to mention the teams that might be looking at him as a 4-3 DE. getting him is looking increasingly unlikely unless we trade down, which means that we would miss out on curry.
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Aloysius said:
No. The practices are much more important than the actual game, as evidenced by the fact that GM's leave on Thursday & Friday.I disagree.....standing out in tonights game will confirm or deny what they do in practice. last year??? Trevor laws, rogers-cromartie, keith rivers, a bunch of O-lineman, but mostly the DB from Troy whom Buffalo used as top pick in first(name alludes me). JMO... but they all have coaches tape of the game, have scouts remain and on a personal note.....I want guys who play big in big games.....and this is a hugee game for these kids. For example....for me if Rey has a monster game I will remain a vocal cheerleader on these boards for him as a pick...if he is average tonight....I'll lean towards a different player.
I disagree.....standing out in tonights game will confirm or deny what they do in practice. last year??? Trevor laws, rogers-cromartie, keith rivers, a bunch of O-lineman, but mostly the DB from Troy whom Buffalo used as top pick in first(name alludes me). JMO... but they all have coaches tape of the game, have scouts remain and on a personal note.....I want guys who play big in big games.....and this is a hugee game for these kids. For example....for me if Rey has a monster game I will remain a vocal cheerleader on these boards for him as a pick...if he is average tonight....I'll lean towards a different player.
charlie frye, senior bowl MVP.
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I disagree.....standing out in tonights game will confirm or deny what they do in practice. last year??? Trevor laws, rogers-cromartie, keith rivers, a bunch of O-lineman, but mostly the DB from Troy whom Buffalo used as top pick in first(name alludes me). JMO... but they all have coaches tape of the game, have scouts remain and on a personal note.....I want guys who play big in big games.....and this is a hugee game for these kids. For example....for me if Rey has a monster game I will remain a vocal cheerleader on these boards for him as a pick...if he is average tonight....I'll lean towards a different player.
charlie frye, senior bowl MVP.
charlie frye, senior bowl MVP.
I stand by my opinion that Charlie Frye is not a bad QB. We just ruined him that's all, first year behind a shitty line (Tim Couch anyone?) disgruntled teammates, shitty play calling. His confidence was destroyed by us.
No one can deny that the kid had more balls than anyone on the team (except maybe winslow) and wanted to win more than anyone.
Outside of that... Im gonna continue praying we can nab Rey and Rashad
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I disagree.....standing out in tonights game will confirm or deny what they do in practice. last year??? Trevor laws, rogers-cromartie, keith rivers, a bunch of O-lineman, but mostly the DB from Troy whom Buffalo used as top pick in first(name alludes me). JMO... but they all have coaches tape of the game, have scouts remain and on a personal note.....I want guys who play big in big games.....and this is a hugee game for these kids. For example....for me if Rey has a monster game I will remain a vocal cheerleader on these boards for him as a pick...if he is average tonight....I'll lean towards a different player.
charlie frye, senior bowl MVP.
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@ solon: the whole point is that practice is more important than the actual game. i don't know how frye was in practice (i recall him being average, but i'm not sure), but he went out and had a great game. his performance in that game wasn't really indicative of his skill as a player; he just got hot at the right time.
over a week or practice, you get a better idea of what kind of player a guy is than you do in a single game. the game itself is almost the least important part of the week. it's got artificial rules similar to the pro bowl which make it less of a game and more of an extended practice.
i think we might be saying the same thing and i misunderstood what you said about being a rey cheerleader depending on what he does in this game. i already like him a lot more than i did before the week based on practice. there's little he can do in this game to change that without doing something outstanding or terrible, the same for more or less every other player.
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I'm surprised we didn't see Alex Mack on the "Risers" list. I know he has really seperated himself from Unger.
I still wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns draft Unger in the 2nd round. Fraley is 32 this year and a point of weakness on that line.
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Case in point: Jay Cutler was great all week during the Senior Bowl practices, but ended up throwing a pick during the game.
Ultimately, that week of practices had a greater effect on his draft stock (and was a greater predictor of his NFL performance) than one quarter of mediocre play.
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I'm surprised we didn't see Alex Mack on the "Risers" list. I know he has really seperated himself from Unger.
I still wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns draft Unger in the 2nd round. Fraley is 32 this year and a point of weakness on that line.
oldcow1945 said:
I'm surprised we didn't see Alex Mack on the "Risers" list. I know he has really seperated himself from Unger.I think that separation was more due to Unger being pretty bad than anything exceptional that Mack did.
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oldcow1945 said:
I'm surprised we didn't see Alex Mack on the "Risers" list. I know he has really seperated himself from Unger.I think that separation was more due to Unger being pretty bad than anything exceptional that Mack did.
Aloysius said:
I think that separation was more due to Unger being pretty bad than anything exceptional that Mack did.I know Mcguire said he struggled a bit at center but is the most versatile lineman in the draft which will make him a mid to early 2nd rounder.
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Case in point: Jay Cutler was great all week during the Senior Bowl practices, but ended up throwing a pick during the game.
Ultimately, that week of practices had a greater effect on his draft stock (and was a greater predictor of his NFL performance) than one quarter of mediocre play.
Aloysius said:
Case in point: Jay Cutler was great all week during the Senior Bowl practices, but ended up throwing a pick during the game.Ultimately, that week of practices had a greater effect on his draft stock (and was a greater predictor of his NFL performance) than one quarter of mediocre play.
I agree....the actual game doesn't mean much. You have a bunch of guys who have never played together, with a coach they never played for...the practice sessions are what scouts are interested in seeing..
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@shepwrite said:
It's the practice week. Ask any personnel guy.I'll stand by my opinion that Charlie Frye is one of the worst starting NFL quarterbacks I've ever seen. Ever. I can't even begin to tell you everything wrong with that annoying wigger.
I have to agree with you Shep. He was so bad. The Browns waisted a 4th round pick on him? It seems that what it was.
I saw during this past year that he had fallen to third on the Seahawks depth chart. I think his days are numbered.
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@shepwrite said:
It's the practice week. Ask any personnel guy.I'll stand by my opinion that Charlie Frye is one of the worst starting NFL quarterbacks I've ever seen. Ever. I can't even begin to tell you everything wrong with that annoying wigger.
I have to agree with you Shep. He was so bad. The Browns waisted a 4th round pick on him? It seems that what it was.
I saw during this past year that he had fallen to third on the Seahawks depth chart. I think his days are numbered.
oldcow1945 said:
I have to agree with you Shep. He was so bad. The Browns waisted a 4th round pick on him? It seems that what it was.I saw during this past year that he had fallen to third on the Seahawks depth chart. I think his days are numbered.
Unfortunatley it was a third round pick....and because he "Rose" during this game! So instead of being a 6th round project....he was drafted by the Browns with third pick because of the senior bowl performance....but this game doesn't mean much....duh!
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@shepwrite said:
Actually, that's not true, Solon. He was actually slated to go higher... by some as high as the Aaron Rodgers pick to Green Bay, 24th overall. He was a VERY popular projection to the Browns with the third pick in round 2. Phil Simms and one of the big writers (the fat guy at ESPN or SI) watched a ton of film on him and said he really wasn't going to cut it at the next level and he bounced a crazy number of passes short in college... and he shouldn't go before round 4 or 5.They were right.
It's no that the game is meaningless. It's just that the week ahead of it is seen as way more important. One game's performance can be about so many things.
Not before the senior bowl he wasn't....He was 5th at highest before senior bowl...you have your Opinion...I have mine. The actual competition in practice yes but the learning progression and Game performance is critical... in the Game especially. No way on god's green earth was Frye projected to go in top 3 rounds before the senior bowl. I've followed the draft gavel to gavel for 23+ years. He had residual MAC credence from Leftwich and pennington....but not in top 5 rounds until after senior bowl.
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