Remarks about gays prompt suspension of 'Duck Dynasty' star
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Isn't that the definition of a hillbilly though? Like, someone is a hillbilly if they are those things...
Each side can have uninformed views of each other all they want, but only one side is actually being oppressed over it. Only one side can't marry the one they love, etc.
When someone says "People from backwoods West Virginia can't marry" or "God hates all hilbillies, they are sinners, look at this sign!" then we will talk.
Isn't that the definition of a hillbilly though? Like, someone is a hillbilly if they are those things...
Each side can have uninformed views of each other all they want, but only one side is actually being oppressed over it. Only one side can't marry the one they love, etc.
When someone says "People from backwoods West Virginia can't marry" or "God hates all hilbillies, they are sinners, look at this sign!" then we will talk.
Oh woody, that's very offensive.
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Gays are stupid, inbred, dirty morons. Is it offensive now?
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Do people actually proudly refer to themselves as a hillbilly? I assumed that was like calling yourself dumb or stupid. I didn't realize any group of people actually identify themselves as hillbillies.
I am not saying any rural person is a hillbilly. A stupid, uneducated, not well spoken backwoods country person is a hillbilly.
People identify as gay. Part of the definition of gay isn't being a stupid, inbred moron. To call all gay people stupid and inbred would be offensive, yeah.
I am not sure why you aren't getting the difference here? I am not sure how now all of a suddent the gays are oppressing everyone else by asking to be treated as equal. "Oh my god! Times are changing and I disagree! Those damn gays are oppressing me! Why can't they just not get the same as everyone else and be happy".
I realize you said you don't care either way. But are you really going to try to jump on the cal conservative bandwagon of "the evil, liberal, gay agenda corrupting america"?
I am guessing you are doing your normal "I am bored so I will try to just work someone up". If anything your responses make so little sense, it is weird. You normally make more sense than this
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Really? You've never heard anyone proudly call themselves a redneck or a hillbilly? That's a bit of an ignorant statement I think. Having been born and raised In the hills of west Virginia doesn't make you deliverance. Why, the great orator himself, Abraham Lincoln, came from a humble log cabin in Illinois did he not?
From Wikipedia
Lincoln led the United States through its greatest constitutional, military, and moral crisisthe American Civil Warand in so doing preserved the Union, abolished slavery, strengthened the national government and modernized the economy. Reared in a poor family on the western frontier, Lincoln was self-educated, and became a country lawyer, a Whig Party leader, Illinois state legislator during the 1830s, and a one-term member of the United States House of Representatives during the 1840s
If he weren't a hillbilly in the long ago of 1809 he surely would have been considered a country bumpkin by the wealthy and arrogant New England elite. Probably also by the wealthy and arrogant Southern plantation owners. But then, he showed them all didn't he?
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You know or ought to know that I historically support the gay marriage issue. But you pretending that hillbillies expressing disgust at the gay lifestyle is somehow more defamatory than "intellectuals" (that's in quotations because a real intellectual would know better) lambasting hillbillies as ignorant contemptible morons. A double standard, in other words.
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The two are not equal though, not in how they are carried out.
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I don't recall all rural people being called hillbillies. I think the only one being called a hillbilly is the gent who was spouting off about how he doesn't understand gay people and how they are in the same vein as dog fuckers. Sounds like a hillbilly to me.
I live in WV. There is a very marked difference between rural folk and hillbillies. Living here with a black wife gets interesting when you encounter hillbillies.
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The two are not equal though, not in how they are carried out.
Yes they are equal until the point where violence enters the picture.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I don't recall all rural people being called hillbillies. I think the only one being called a hillbilly is the gent who was spouting off about how he doesn't understand gay people and how they are in the same vein as dog fuckers. Sounds like a hillbilly to me.
I live in WV. There is a very marked difference between rural folk and hillbillies. Living here with a black wife gets interesting when you encounter hillbillies.
I don't recall all rural people being called hillbillies. I think the only one being called a hillbilly is the gent who was spouting off about how he doesn't understand gay people and how they are in the same vein as dog fuckers. Sounds like a hillbilly to me.
I live in WV. There is a very marked difference between rural folk and hillbillies. Living here with a black wife gets interesting when you encounter hillbillies.
Yes they say there's a difference between black folk and n-words too. A lot of people don't hold to that, just as the wealthy elitist nyc hipster will dismiss you as a hillbilly on sight or the second that that west Virginia twang leaves your mouth. Fact of life, deal with it. The only people who say "there's a difference between rural people and hillbillies" is someone who feels he is unjustly being lumped in with hillbillies. I get your point I live in Berlin heights Ohio. Cornfields, soybean fields and orchards as far as the eye can see. Near as I can tell I'm not Larry the cable guy yet. But then that is the point I'm trying to make. Who are we to judge Larry the cable guy?
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We are to judge Larry because he is not funny and he is playing a character haha. Just briefly off topic.
Oh and I am originally from NJ so the locals actually look at me like I am an alien when I speak.
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The two are not equal though, not in how they are carried out.
Yes they are equal until the point where violence enters the picture.
Yes they are equal until the point where violence enters the picture.
There's hillbilly-bashing?
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Koala, hillbilly bashing is everywhere and Christmas is on life support.
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Yes they are equal until the point where violence enters the picture.
There's hillbilly-bashing?
Well the term hillbilly refers to poor Irish Protestant immigrants who settled in the Appalachians or other mountainous regions since it reminded them of their native land. We know they are Protestants because Catholics would not name their children William. They were despised at the time of their immigration and persecuted heavily. The term hillbilly itself is a derogatory slur as we all know: an insult to that group of people. So I wonder why the liberal douche bags don't insist we call that the H word?There's hillbilly-bashing?
WSS
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There was no dismantling of anyone's rights in that interview. Phil did not say "gays shouldn't have rights" or anything remotely close (in addition to linking it with bestiality, he linked other examples of sin - burglary, drunkenness, slander, swindling). But y'all are right, "gays = horsefuckers" is waaay more sound byte-ey. Good work. He merely said that homosexuality is a sin. According to the bible. Which is correct. You can agree or disagree with the bible, but you can't disagree that what Phil said is found in the bible.
So, imagine the reverse scenario:
What if Phil was gay and talked about supporting homosexuality as a lifestyle in an interview? Where he was asked a question about it, rather than bring it up on his own. Suppose A&E wasn't fond of the gay, and suspended him indefinitely for his remarks? Would you crybaby pussies be supporting A&E then? Of course not. A&E would be sued and then drawn & quartered with respect to their remaining assets.
This is why it's a 1st amendment issue. You have 1 group of people protected & insulated by the 1st amendment and another that is not.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
There was no dismantling of anyone's rights in that interview. Phil did not say "gays shouldn't have rights" or anything remotely close (in addition to linking it with bestiality, he linked other examples of sin - burglary, drunkenness, slander, swindling). But y'all are right, "gays = horsefuckers" is waaay more sound byte-ey. Good work. He merely said that homosexuality is a sin. According to the bible. Which is correct. You can agree or disagree with the bible, but you can't disagree that what Phil said is found in the bible.
So, imagine the reverse scenario:
What if Phil was gay and talked about supporting homosexuality as a lifestyle in an interview? Where he was asked a question about it, rather than bring it up on his own. Suppose A&E wasn't fond of the gay, and suspended him indefinitely for his remarks? Would you crybaby pussies be supporting A&E then? Of course not. A&E would be sued and then drawn & quartered with respect to their remaining assets.
This is why it's a 1st amendment issue. You have 1 group of people protected & insulated by the 1st amendment and another that is not.
There was no dismantling of anyone's rights in that interview. Phil did not say "gays shouldn't have rights" or anything remotely close (in addition to linking it with bestiality, he linked other examples of sin - burglary, drunkenness, slander, swindling). But y'all are right, "gays = horsefuckers" is waaay more sound byte-ey. Good work. He merely said that homosexuality is a sin. According to the bible. Which is correct. You can agree or disagree with the bible, but you can't disagree that what Phil said is found in the bible.
So, imagine the reverse scenario:
What if Phil was gay and talked about supporting homosexuality as a lifestyle in an interview? Where he was asked a question about it, rather than bring it up on his own. Suppose A&E wasn't fond of the gay, and suspended him indefinitely for his remarks? Would you crybaby pussies be supporting A&E then? Of course not. A&E would be sued and then drawn & quartered with respect to their remaining assets.
This is why it's a 1st amendment issue. You have 1 group of people protected & insulated by the 1st amendment and another that is not.
As a free market libertarian I would say that A&E can do whatever the fuck they want with their product. If their contract said that they don't want someone chatting about how they like the dick and Phil signed it, then he would be subject to getting fired. Simple as any other morals clause in a contract. The same rule applies if a teacher signs the contract at a private catholic school to work and decides after signing to come out as gay. The teacher signed the contract and knows that the school can fire them. There is no legal recourse.
That being said, the paying public can then vote with their wallet as to what they want to do. They could continue to give the network their money or boycott. So it is not a 1st Amendment issue. No one is being prevented from expressing an opinion. No one is being arrested.
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You are free to say whatever you want and others are allowed to react accordingly.
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There was no dismantling of anyone's rights in that interview. Phil did not say "gays shouldn't have rights" or anything remotely close (in addition to linking it with bestiality, he linked other examples of sin - burglary, drunkenness, slander, swindling). But y'all are right, "gays = horsefuckers" is waaay more sound byte-ey. Good work. He merely said that homosexuality is a sin. According to the bible. Which is correct. You can agree or disagree with the bible, but you can't disagree that what Phil said is found in the bible.
So, imagine the reverse scenario:
What if Phil was gay and talked about supporting homosexuality as a lifestyle in an interview? Where he was asked a question about it, rather than bring it up on his own. Suppose A&E wasn't fond of the gay, and suspended him indefinitely for his remarks? Would you crybaby pussies be supporting A&E then? Of course not. A&E would be sued and then drawn & quartered with respect to their remaining assets.
This is why it's a 1st amendment issue. You have 1 group of people protected & insulated by the 1st amendment and another that is not.
There was no dismantling of anyone's rights in that interview. Phil did not say "gays shouldn't have rights" or anything remotely close (in addition to linking it with bestiality, he linked other examples of sin - burglary, drunkenness, slander, swindling). But y'all are right, "gays = horsefuckers" is waaay more sound byte-ey. Good work. He merely said that homosexuality is a sin. According to the bible. Which is correct. You can agree or disagree with the bible, but you can't disagree that what Phil said is found in the bible.
So, imagine the reverse scenario:
What if Phil was gay and talked about supporting homosexuality as a lifestyle in an interview? Where he was asked a question about it, rather than bring it up on his own. Suppose A&E wasn't fond of the gay, and suspended him indefinitely for his remarks? Would you crybaby pussies be supporting A&E then? Of course not. A&E would be sued and then drawn & quartered with respect to their remaining assets.
This is why it's a 1st amendment issue. You have 1 group of people protected & insulated by the 1st amendment and another that is not.
I don't think you can fire someone based on their race, gender or sexual preference. So yes, if he was fired for being gay then there would be an issue.
If was straight but said he supported gay marriage, and he got suspended for it, then no, I see no issue. A&E would still be able to do what they want based on the contract signed.
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There was no dismantling of anyone's rights in that interview. Phil did not say "gays shouldn't have rights" or anything remotely close (in addition to linking it with bestiality, he linked other examples of sin - burglary, drunkenness, slander, swindling). But y'all are right, "gays = horsefuckers" is waaay more sound byte-ey. Good work. He merely said that homosexuality is a sin. According to the bible. Which is correct. You can agree or disagree with the bible, but you can't disagree that what Phil said is found in the bible.
So, imagine the reverse scenario:
What if Phil was gay and talked about supporting homosexuality as a lifestyle in an interview? Where he was asked a question about it, rather than bring it up on his own. Suppose A&E wasn't fond of the gay, and suspended him indefinitely for his remarks? Would you crybaby pussies be supporting A&E then? Of course not. A&E would be sued and then drawn & quartered with respect to their remaining assets.
This is why it's a 1st amendment issue. You have 1 group of people protected & insulated by the 1st amendment and another that is not.
I don't think you can fire someone based on their race, gender or sexual preference. So yes, if he was fired for being gay then there would be an issue.
If was straight but said he supported gay marriage, and he got suspended for it, then no, I see no issue. A&E would still be able to do what they want based on the contract signed.
I don't think you can fire someone based on their race, gender or sexual preference. So yes, if he was fired for being gay then there would be an issue.
If was straight but said he supported gay marriage, and he got suspended for it, then no, I see no issue. A&E would still be able to do what they want based on the contract signed.
You can most definitely get canned if you agree to a contract that stipulates (insert whatever religious group) morals and you choose to break that arrangement. I have a few friends that currently work at or have worked at private christian and catholic schools. They canned people for coming out gay. They also canned people for getting divorces. They had zero legal recourse because it was all spelled out in their employment contracts.
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Keep in mind these were all private institutions.
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Oh, well if they signed something beforehand then yeah, I could see that.
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