Jonathan Paul Manziel
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durability, armstrength, elusiveness in the pocket and swagger come to mind.
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The arm strength has been in question. He has mediocre arm strength.
At the same time...@@... he has excellent arm strength. Watching him play,
I prefer to think more the mediocre part, when it comes to the NFL.
Cribbs was an exciting qb in college. A lot of qb's are terrific in college.
Manziel is probably the most exciting qb in college ball, but the step up to the NFL
is a huge one.
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What are the Pros and Cons on the Browns drafting Johnny Manziel? Here are perhaps a few:
1. Pro: Publicity. No player, I believe, will provoke more discussion/debate/controversy than Johnny Football. Whichever team drafts him will have ESPN and the national media sniffing their hind quarters the whole year, the way they did with RGIII, fair to say?
1. Con: This sucker is short. He is listed at spots at 6ft. 1 in. Fairly short in todays world....(issue, can he overcome that ala Brees/Vick/Russell)
2. Pro: He is brash and a risk taker which could mean good positive plays for the Browns.
2. Con: He is brash and a risk taker which could mean bad negative plays for the Browns.
3. Pro: Leadership. He seems to be the kind of kid that can take a team by the horns and will it to win on occasion. He played well against some of his toughest competition (like Alabama etc.)
3. Con. Selfishness? The opposite side of the coin of leadership is selfishness. Will he try to do too much himself, and not rely on the talent around him. He will learn that the NFL is not a one man sport.
4. Pro: Mobility. He has Fran Tarkenton like scrambling ability that could allow him to make positive plays out of potential negative plays.
4. Con: Durability. But, with his penchant for scrambling, will he turn into a Michael Vick type that is always getting busted up. He is a smaller player going in amongst the Redwoods. Can he survive? Unknown.
Feel free to add your own Pros and Cons about him.
What are the Pros and Cons on the Browns drafting Johnny Manziel? Here are perhaps a few:
1. Pro: Publicity. No player, I believe, will provoke more discussion/debate/controversy than Johnny Football. Whichever team drafts him will have ESPN and the national media sniffing their hind quarters the whole year, the way they did with RGIII, fair to say?
Feel free to add your own Pros and Cons about him.
Screw publicity- ESPN was all over RG III um, not so much now, LOL. Hell, if Johnny Football is signing autographs now, he's going to be endorsing everything his agent can sign him up for when he can do it legit.
He's got the one thing you can't teach....Pocket awareness...he feels pressure and has the ability to move around and keep his eyes down field. In today's nfl were its all about getting pressure on the QB, in my opinion this is the most important trait of a NFL QB. Everything else can be taught, if you can't feel pressure and extend plays instinctively your gonna look like Brandon Weeden. And be injured most of your career
^+1, exactly. Add in making a quick read and getting rid of the ball in a hurry.
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Winter weather affects everyone the same. Doesn't matter if you are from Texas or Alaska. You acclimate to where you live.
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Winter weather affects everyone the same. Doesn't matter if you are from Texas or Alaska. You acclimate to where you live.
Winter weather affects everyone the same. Doesn't matter if you are from Texas or Alaska. You acclimate to where you live.
Texas still gets cold as hell as anyone who's ever stood around at parade at five am on lackland afb in December can attest.
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Texas still gets cold as hell as anyone who's ever stood around at parade at five am on lackland afb in December can attest.
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Nov-Dec? It snowed lightly in the morning, 5 am, and in the afternoon, you carried your coats and got hot marching. I attest
If the Browns draft Manziel, they will know what they are doing, and I'm with them. I don't see it, though.
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I would shy away from any QB from the SEC or Big 12; there isn't much defense played down there unless its Alabama.
I also think he's too cocky, the kind of player a roid-rager like Harrison wants to destroy.
He's a winner in college, I think its less than 50-50 he makes it in the NFL.
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The arm strength has been in question. He has mediocre arm strength.
At the same time...@@... he has excellent arm strength. Watching him play,
I prefer to think more the mediocre part, when it comes to the NFL.
Cribbs was an exciting qb in college. A lot of qb's are terrific in college.
Manziel is probably the most exciting qb in college ball, but the step up to the NFL
is a huge one.
Links:
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Search Results News for Johnny manziel arm strengthHeadlines & Global News2014 NFL Mock Draft: Johnny Manziel to the Minnesota VikingsNFL Spin Zone - 1 day ago
Unlike Ponder, Manziel has excellent arm strength, and he has even more rushing ability than Ponder. But like Ponder, there are questions as ... Analyzing Johnny: Manziel polarizing NFL scouts, too - CBS Sportswww.cbssports.com/.../analyzing-johnny-manziel-polarizing-nfl-scouts-t...CachedAug 26, 2013 - In terms of the NFL, a potentially critical flaw for Manziel is that he currently possesses just average arm strength. This could potentially improve ... Johnny Manziel's demolition of Alabama shows that he's NFL-ready ...mmqb.si.com/2013/09/17/johnny-manziel-nfl-future/Cached
Sep 17, 2013 - Johnny Manziel lacks the arm strength, the build and the choir-boy image, ... quarterback Johnny Manziel make Alabama's NFL prospect-filled, ... Johnny Manziel May Not Announce NFL Draft Decision Before ...bleacherreport.com/.../1862153-johnny-manziel-will-announce-nfl-draft...CachedN
ov 22, 2013 - Texas A&M superstar quarterback Johnny Manziel was reportedly set to ... than that listing—Manziel has displayed pro-caliber arm strength, ...
The arm strength has been in question. He has mediocre arm strength.
At the same time...@@... he has excellent arm strength. Watching him play,
I prefer to think more the mediocre part, when it comes to the NFL.
Cribbs was an exciting qb in college. A lot of qb's are terrific in college.
Manziel is probably the most exciting qb in college ball, but the step up to the NFL
is a huge one.
He may not have an elite arm but its plenty enough to get the ball downfield and much stronger than McCoys. And remember he's only a sophomore were Colt was a senior when he came out. He's got alot more strength to gain in that arm.
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I would shy away from any QB from the SEC or Big 12; there isn't much defense played down there unless its Alabama.
I also think he's too cocky, the kind of player a roid-rager like Harrison wants to destroy.
He's a winner in college, I think its less than 50-50 he makes it in the NFL.
I'm confused as to which conference plays better d than the sec...I would shy away from any QB from the SEC or Big 12; there isn't much defense played down there unless its Alabama.
I also think he's too cocky, the kind of player a roid-rager like Harrison wants to destroy.
He's a winner in college, I think its less than 50-50 he makes it in the NFL.
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I'm confused as to which conference plays better d than the sec...I would shy away from any QB from the SEC or Big 12; there isn't much defense played down there unless its Alabama.
I also think he's too cocky, the kind of player a roid-rager like Harrison wants to destroy.
He's a winner in college, I think its less than 50-50 he makes it in the NFL.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I'm confused as to which conference plays better d than the sec...
45-38 games are the norm the last couple of seasons down there, unless 'Bama is playing
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yeah but that's between SEC teams. WHen other teams play the SEC they get approx shit for points no?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/schedule/_/id/8/sec-conference
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I don't want to turn this into another thread.
I don't see Johnny Football succeeding in the NFL, just my 2 cents. I'd rather have a humble, sturdy statured QB coming out of college playing for the Browns.
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Winter weather affects everyone the same. Doesn't matter if you are from Texas or Alaska. You acclimate to where you live.
Winter weather affects everyone the same. Doesn't matter if you are from Texas or Alaska. You acclimate to where you live.
Brett Favre did all right in the cold in Green Bay, and he came from Southern Mississippi.....so, yes, that issue can be overcome.
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I would shy away from any QB from the SEC or Big 12; there isn't much defense played down there unless its Alabama.
I also think he's too cocky, the kind of player a roid-rager like Harrison wants to destroy.
He's a winner in college, I think its less than 50-50 he makes it in the NFL.
I would shy away from any QB from the SEC or Big 12; there isn't much defense played down there unless its Alabama.
I also think he's too cocky, the kind of player a roid-rager like Harrison wants to destroy.
He's a winner in college, I think its less than 50-50 he makes it in the NFL.
Really? Peyton Manning, Eli Manning played in the SEC, Tom Brady and Drew Brees in the Big Ten.
Need I say more?
Or do you think we should just get our QBs from like Delaware because that is where Flacco went there? And the only other active SB winning QBs played in the Pac 12 and the MAC.
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The biggest con in my book is that skip bayless thinks Maziel is going to be a great NFL QB. That's right, skip bayless the same guy who was sucking tebows dick even after the writing on the wall, the same guy who apparently doesn't realize that NCAA and NFL are two different games.
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The biggest con in my book is that skip bayless thinks Maziel is going to be a great NFL QB. That's right, skip bayless the same guy who was sucking tebows dick even after the writing on the wall, the same guy who apparently doesn't realize that NCAA and NFL are two different games.
The biggest con in my book is that skip bayless thinks Maziel is going to be a great NFL QB. That's right, skip bayless the same guy who was sucking tebows dick even after the writing on the wall, the same guy who apparently doesn't realize that NCAA and NFL are two different games.
While I don't trust his judgment by any means, you know what they say about the blind squirrell.
Lots of us thought that so and so were going to be the man at QB....you know, names like Weeden/Quinn/Anderson/Frye etc. etc.
One day one of us will be right about one of these QBs.
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I would shy away from any QB from the SEC or Big 12; there isn't much defense played down there unless its Alabama.
I also think he's too cocky, the kind of player a roid-rager like Harrison wants to destroy.
He's a winner in college, I think its less than 50-50 he makes it in the NFL.
Really? Peyton Manning, Eli Manning played in the SEC, Tom Brady and Drew Brees in the Big Ten.
Need I say more?
Or do you think we should just get our QBs from like Delaware because that is where Flacco went there? And the only other active SB winning QBs played in the Pac 12 and the MAC.
Really? Peyton Manning, Eli Manning played in the SEC, Tom Brady and Drew Brees in the Big Ten.
Need I say more?
Or do you think we should just get our QBs from like Delaware because that is where Flacco went there? And the only other active SB winning QBs played in the Pac 12 and the MAC.
Different eras when Peyton & Eli played in the SEC.
I'm just preaching caution. I don't have the answer on who we should draft as a QB, I just see the SEC's defenses not as strong as they used to be.
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Here is my take for what its worth on Manziel. I think he has the physical skills to succeed. He has pocket presence, he seems to want to pass first, and not run first, and he also appears cool in the pocket. My major concern is whether he will put the work in, is he mature enough to make the jump right now. If he makes the jump I think he needs to definitely start the year on the bench because he needs to be hardest working guy on the team and I am not sure he is there yet. And the SEC doesn't play great defense argument is bologna. Whether they play it at as good as they have in the past, its not relevant. They play as good as any conference in the country I bet. And Manziel has torched Alabama's vaunted defense two straight years. The dude can play, but will he do the work needed to excel at the next level.
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