Coach Chud Fired
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I totally disagree with your drunken rant...Expect Ward,mack and DQJ to be gone next year...oh and guess what...we'll be 2-14 next year and fire the next coach we hire..mark it down...
oh i'll write it down alright and tape it above my computer and when we do better than we did this year i'll expect a six pack of beer of my choice. if we go 2 and 14 i'll buy you a case.
do you got the balls nickers?
oh i'll write it down alright and tape it above my computer and when we do better than we did this year i'll expect a six pack of beer of my choice. if we go 2 and 14 i'll buy you a case.
do you got the balls nickers?
Your on,Man...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I don't think it's stupid at all. I think anybody with the moxie and strength to be a head coach is going to be possessed of enough self confidence as to not think there's a chance he could fall on his ass. I'd think anybody worth a shit would believe rightly or wrongly that he's the man to turn the team around.
I mean I don't want some pussy wringing his hands and worrying oh me oh my I'm not sure I could go 5&11 next year.....
WSS
That's why the need a proven NFL head coach. Someone like that won't worry about getting fired. Some assistant or college coach might worry about that
But therein lies the rub. If he's proven why is he out of a job?That's why the need a proven NFL head coach. Someone like that won't worry about getting fired. Some assistant or college coach might worry about that
One reason for hesitation I could accept might be that if a candidate has other options he might choose one in which he has more control and does not to answer to people like Banner and Lombardi.
WSS
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I don't remember Chud being the 5th pick. I remember Kelly and doug morrone.
Banner and jimmy told us "he was our guy." "We are going to be patient and build for the long haul." One year? They know better than release Lombardi to the Cleveland media. Whether Chud is fired or not they owe us a fucking explanation on what they saw in chud and why they hired him in the first place. We were told it was a collective decision. Well collectively they were apparently all friggin wrong.
"Chudzinski grew up in Toledo, Ohio, where he pulled for the Browns. Chudzinski interviewed with the team on Wednesday, and was viewed by many to be a longshot for the job.
However, he wowed Haslam and CEO Joe Banner during his meeting, and the team decided to give him the job after interviewing at least eight other candidates."
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8833956&src=desktop
One of which was only to satisfy the Rooney Rule, so I really only count seven of them.
sorry i dont see where they settled. like i said they interviewed their guys and chud was hired within a couple days. if they waited a month and alot of headcoaches were hired before hand i would agree they settled."Chudzinski grew up in Toledo, Ohio, where he pulled for the Browns. Chudzinski interviewed with the team on Wednesday, and was viewed by many to be a longshot for the job.
However, he wowed Haslam and CEO Joe Banner during his meeting, and the team decided to give him the job after interviewing at least eight other candidates."
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8833956&src=desktop
One of which was only to satisfy the Rooney Rule, so I really only count seven of them.
regardless at this point and like its being reported is what its showing the league and the rest of the HC candidates is the instability of the browns organization at the top. now we have free agents that will need overpaid to stay because they dont trust the FO
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who is gonna come after seeing a firing like this?
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Maybe I am in the minority but I am tired of shuffling coaches and systems here. I believe I saw enough flashes of good football to stick with it. With 7 top tier draft picks and plenty to spend on FA's we should have stuck it out. This kind of knee jerk shit has me honestly wondering if keeping my season tickets is worth it and that's saying something as I waited a long time to get them. Someone should post a poll on the firing. I would love to see what the majority think.
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Why the fuck would Lovie Smith or any coach with any kind of name for himself want to coach under lombardi and banner? There are plenty of other vacancies. This team is fucking dysfunctional. JH3 is a fucking asshole and Banner is an asshole too. If we end up with McDaniels or O'Brien, I'm not even going to bother watching football next year. We're in the same exact position we were in when Holmgren was boss.
Another coaching churn, just what the doctor ordered.
Kick Banner and Lombardi out the door while he's at it...They chose the guy...or got stuck with the guy after everybody else thumbed their noses at this joke of an organization
"We're in it for the long haul" I don't believe a damn thing you say anymore Banner- I always thought you looked like a weasel- and you just just proved it. JH- go shove that new jumbotron up your ass sideways- you've just outdone Jerry Jones.
It's dumbass knee jerk decision. I blame that eggsucking weasel lombardi. I didn't like him
before, didn't like the hire.
Sounds to me, that Lombardi was brought in to lower the bottom line for Haslam. I told Canton Mike
Lombardi would be trouble.
Lombardi had alienated players in the past. If I was a fa with the Browns, I'd walk to another team, that's
what I would do. Apparently, he alienated Chud and Chud told him to shove it.
Maybe Haslam is a crook after all, and has money problems. There has to be some kind of dramatic explanation
for this debacle. Continuity????
There is no light at either end of the tunnel for us right now. It is a dark day in Browns Country right now. Especially when the best players like Thomas, Ward, and Jackson were backing Chud. And I just saw an acticle on Ward saying that Chud's future whould help make his decision come FA time.
The only light at the end of the tunnel is yet another train ready to run us over- this time I'm getting out of the way first.
hes not even top ten take the goggles off dude
Pro bowl Alternate says otherwise dipwad
show me where he is top ten I cant find it and I looked up the top ten. He was not on the list sorry but it's your opinion and not fact.
See above.
This is ridiculous, you want instant results Jimmy? I suggest you show Lombardi and Banner the door while you're at it. Thanks for blowing the 2013 draft. Sure, we can win with a third string qb, and a street FA RB. You can bet Thomas and all the other long term players are tired of this shit- and finally, so am i.
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Another coaching churn, just what the doctor ordered.
"We're in it for the long haul" I don't believe a damn thing you say anymore Banner- I always thought you looked like a weasel- and you just just proved it. JH- go shove that new jumbotron up your ass sideways- you've just outdone Jerry Jones.
The only light at the end of the tunnel is yet another train ready to run us over- this time I'm getting out of the way first.
Pro bowl Alternate says otherwise dipwad
See above.
This is ridiculous, you want instant results Jimmy? I suggest you show Lombardi and Banner the door while you're at it. Thanks for blowing the 2013 draft. Sure, we can win with a third string qb, and a street FA RB. You can bet Thomas and all the other long term players are tired of this shit- and finally, so am i.
Fuck yeah! I'd definitely show Lombardi the door! He is a fuckin' snake! Starting to really dislike Banner as well!
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Very very disappointed to wake up to this news; Hootie The Owl (Banner) and Jimmy better be right on this is all I can ask / hope for....sigh it is so difficult at times to be a fan of this team and supporter of our city
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Haslam is about money. The only way to keep this shitty team relevant and in the news is through shit like this. Obviously they can't be relevant any other way because the team sucks.
Fuck the entire fo and haslam too. Just tired of this shit.
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I'm not 100% sure but I think he has done 1 presser with Jimmy and Joe at his side.Has anyone even heard Lombardi speak?
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Haslam is about money. The only way to keep this shitty team relevant and in the news is through shit like this. Obviously they can't be relevant any other way because the team sucks.
Fuck the entire fo and haslam too. Just tired of this shit.
Haslam just gave Chud 10 mill to leave....hardly about money. I've read it was because LomBandi wanted Chud to shake up the locker room by cutting Little or Luavou and he wouldn't do it....well that and the total fucking collapse.Haslam is about money. The only way to keep this shitty team relevant and in the news is through shit like this. Obviously they can't be relevant any other way because the team sucks.
Fuck the entire fo and haslam too. Just tired of this shit.
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Haslam just gave Chud 10 mill to leave....hardly about money. I've read it was because LomBandi wanted Chud to shake up the locker room by cutting Little or Luavou and he wouldn't do it....well that and the total fucking collapse.Haslam is about money. The only way to keep this shitty team relevant and in the news is through shit like this. Obviously they can't be relevant any other way because the team sucks.
Fuck the entire fo and haslam too. Just tired of this shit.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Haslam just gave Chud 10 mill to leave....hardly about money. I've read it was because LomBandi wanted Chud to shake up the locker room by cutting Little or Luavou and he wouldn't do it....well that and the total fucking collapse.
I heard Weeden was mentioned as well.
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The fuckers didn't even put a name on the press release they put out last night ... just "we" ... Haslem? Banner? No one wants to take "credit" for it"?
Do an exhaustive search for a coach, pass on Chip Kelly because he wants too much money and then give Chud a four year contract and fire him after one year ... wasting 9 or 10 Million dollars while Kelly goes 10-6 and breaks Eagles offensive records..
Trade the starting running back (good move) while the team is 0-2 and replace him with a 30 something shell of a running back (bad move). The rookie coach wins with the backup QB you signed, who he promoted from the #3 spot, that guy gets hurt and he is forced to play the rest of the year with the now third string QB, who you also signed.
He got 4,000 yards out of the passing offense and allowed Josh Gordon to become a star despite playing the entire season with retread QBs no one has wanted or will want, and virtually no run game to support the offense.
You didn't give the guy a chance. sure, maybe the next coach does great and you'll all look like geniuses, but you are still dicks for hiring and firing this guy and wasting a year of everybody's life.
Zombo
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The fuckers didn't even put a name on the press release they put out last night ... just "we" ... Haslem? Banner? No one wants to take "credit" for it"?
Do an exhaustive search for a coach, pass on Chip Kelly because he wants too much money and then give Chud a four year contract and fire him after one year ... wasting 9 or 10 Million dollars while Kelly goes 10-6 and breaks Eagles offensive records..
Trade the starting running back (good move) while the team is 0-2 and replace him with a 30 something shell of a running back (bad move). The rookie coach wins with the backup QB you signed, who he promoted from the #3 spot, that guy gets hurt and he is forced to play the rest of the year with the now third string QB, who you also signed.
He got 4,000 yards out of the passing offense and allowed Josh Gordon to become a star despite playing the entire season with retread QBs no one has wanted or will want, and virtually no run game to support the offense.
You didn't give the guy a chance. sure, maybe the next coach does great and you'll all look like geniuses, but you are still dicks for hiring and firing this guy and wasting a year of everybody's life.
Zombo
Zombo said:
The fuckers didn't even put a name on the press release they put out last night ... just "we" ... Haslem? Banner? No one wants to take "credit" for it"?
Do an exhaustive search for a coach, pass on Chip Kelly because he wants too much money and then give Chud a four year contract and fire him after one year ... wasting 9 or 10 Million dollars while Kelly goes 10-6 and breaks Eagles offensive records..
Trade the starting running back (good move) while the team is 0-2 and replace him with a 30 something shell of a running back (bad move). The rookie coach wins with the backup QB you signed, who he promoted from the #3 spot, that guy gets hurt and he is forced to play the rest of the year with the now third string QB, who you also signed.
He got 4,000 yards out of the passing offense and allowed Josh Gordon to become a star despite playing the entire season with retread QBs no one has wanted or will want, and virtually no run game to support the offense.
You didn't give the guy a chance. sure, maybe the next coach does great and you'll all look like geniuses, but you are still dicks for hiring and firing this guy and wasting a year of everybody's life.
Zombo
I agree!!!
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ward had an ok year, but then again he was playing for a contract. He is no where near the top 3 Safeties though
ward had an ok year, but then again he was playing for a contract. He is no where near the top 3 Safeties though
So you are better than the experts who rank the players? There are a lot of you "experts" around. If Ward were on another team you would be dying to get him here guaranteed.
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The fuckers didn't even put a name on the press release they put out last night ... just "we" ... Haslem? Banner? No one wants to take "credit" for it"?
Do an exhaustive search for a coach, pass on Chip Kelly because he wants too much money and then give Chud a four year contract and fire him after one year ... wasting 9 or 10 Million dollars while Kelly goes 10-6 and breaks Eagles offensive records..
Trade the starting running back (good move) while the team is 0-2 and replace him with a 30 something shell of a running back (bad move). The rookie coach wins with the backup QB you signed, who he promoted from the #3 spot, that guy gets hurt and he is forced to play the rest of the year with the now third string QB, who you also signed.
He got 4,000 yards out of the passing offense and allowed Josh Gordon to become a star despite playing the entire season with retread QBs no one has wanted or will want, and virtually no run game to support the offense.
You didn't give the guy a chance. sure, maybe the next coach does great and you'll all look like geniuses, but you are still dicks for hiring and firing this guy and wasting a year of everybody's life.
Zombo
The reason, or at least one reason, that Chip Kelly didn't come here was because he supposedly didn't want to be under joe banners thumb. So take that for what it's worth I was told that by somebody who should have a good understanding. At any rate No, Chud did not get a fair chance. On the other hand if one of the reasons is that he went to the wall for some players who let him down oh well. Maybe if Jackson and little are so flabbergasted they could have played a little better in the last 4 games and maybe there pal would still be here. Unfortunately the team collapsed in the 4th quarter of the games and of the season.Zombo said:
The fuckers didn't even put a name on the press release they put out last night ... just "we" ... Haslem? Banner? No one wants to take "credit" for it"?
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He got 4,000 yards out of the passing offense and allowed Josh Gordon to become a star despite playing the entire season with retread QBs no one has wanted or will want, and virtually no run game to support the offense.
You didn't give the guy a chance. sure, maybe the next coach does great and you'll all look like geniuses, but you are still dicks for hiring and firing this guy and wasting a year of everybody's life.
Zombo
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The fuckers didn't even put a name on the press release they put out last night ... just "we" ... Haslem? Banner? No one wants to take "credit" for it"?
Do an exhaustive search for a coach, pass on Chip Kelly because he wants too much money and then give Chud a four year contract and fire him after one year ... wasting 9 or 10 Million dollars while Kelly goes 10-6 and breaks Eagles offensive records..
Trade the starting running back (good move) while the team is 0-2 and replace him with a 30 something shell of a running back (bad move). The rookie coach wins with the backup QB you signed, who he promoted from the #3 spot, that guy gets hurt and he is forced to play the rest of the year with the now third string QB, who you also signed.
He got 4,000 yards out of the passing offense and allowed Josh Gordon to become a star despite playing the entire season with retread QBs no one has wanted or will want, and virtually no run game to support the offense.
You didn't give the guy a chance. sure, maybe the next coach does great and you'll all look like geniuses, but you are still dicks for hiring and firing this guy and wasting a year of everybody's life.
Zombo
Zombo said:
The fuckers didn't even put a name on the press release they put out last night ... just "we" ... Haslem? Banner? No one wants to take "credit" for it"?
Do an exhaustive search for a coach, pass on Chip Kelly because he wants too much money and then give Chud a four year contract and fire him after one year ... wasting 9 or 10 Million dollars while Kelly goes 10-6 and breaks Eagles offensive records..
Trade the starting running back (good move) while the team is 0-2 and replace him with a 30 something shell of a running back (bad move). The rookie coach wins with the backup QB you signed, who he promoted from the #3 spot, that guy gets hurt and he is forced to play the rest of the year with the now third string QB, who you also signed.
He got 4,000 yards out of the passing offense and allowed Josh Gordon to become a star despite playing the entire season with retread QBs no one has wanted or will want, and virtually no run game to support the offense.
You didn't give the guy a chance. sure, maybe the next coach does great and you'll all look like geniuses, but you are still dicks for hiring and firing this guy and wasting a year of everybody's life.
Zombo
I couldn't agree more. At the very least they should also fire themselves if they are saying their choice of coaches was bad enough to fire after one year. If I owned this team and agreed with the decision to fire Chud there is no question I would stick Banner on the same boat out of town.
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Wonder what happened in the coordinator meeting earlier.
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I totally disagree with your drunken rant...Expect Ward,mack and DQJ to be gone next year...oh and guess what...we'll be 2-14 next year and fire the next coach we hire..mark it down...
oh i'll write it down alright and tape it above my computer and when we do better than we did this year i'll expect a six pack of beer of my choice. if we go 2 and 14 i'll buy you a case.
do you got the balls nickers?
oh i'll write it down alright and tape it above my computer and when we do better than we did this year i'll expect a six pack of beer of my choice. if we go 2 and 14 i'll buy you a case.
do you got the balls nickers?
Mik seriously it wont even be a fair comparison. We are going to add 7 pieces from the first four rounds of the draft, spend significant money in free agency and the new coach will have a totally different toy to play with. I think our record sucked. I agree that Chud had some issues with clock management at times. Having said that I believe playing the hand he was dealt we saw improvement aside from the record. Perhaps it was a fluke but when Hoyer was at the helm this team kicked ass. Put Weeden / Campbell at the helm of most teams and they would suck too. I am sure that will be debated but its a fact.
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oh i'll write it down alright and tape it above my computer and when we do better than we did this year i'll expect a six pack of beer of my choice. if we go 2 and 14 i'll buy you a case.
do you got the balls nickers?
Mik seriously it wont even be a fair comparison. We are going to add 7 pieces from the first four rounds of the draft, spend significant money in free agency and the new coach will have a totally different toy to play with. I think our record sucked. I agree that Chud had some issues with clock management at times. Having said that I believe playing the hand he was dealt we saw improvement aside from the record. Perhaps it was a fluke but when Hoyer was at the helm this team kicked ass. Put Weeden / Campbell at the helm of most teams and they would suck too. I am sure that will be debated but its a fact.
Mik seriously it wont even be a fair comparison. We are going to add 7 pieces from the first four rounds of the draft, spend significant money in free agency and the new coach will have a totally different toy to play with. I think our record sucked. I agree that Chud had some issues with clock management at times. Having said that I believe playing the hand he was dealt we saw improvement aside from the record. Perhaps it was a fluke but when Hoyer was at the helm this team kicked ass. Put Weeden / Campbell at the helm of most teams and they would suck too. I am sure that will be debated but its a fact.
You're right about Hoyer and that is part of the reason Chud was let go.
Chud gave the starting job to Weeden over Hoyer to begin the season at the behest of Mike Lombardi. Weeden lost two games, and Hoyer comes in and suddenly wins three games. That stroked Lombardi's ego and was the move that began digging Chud's grave.
Lombardi is on record calling Weeden a "panicked disaster" as well as claiming Hoyer to be a starting caliber QB, yet Chud still started Weeden over Hoyer.
This FO didn't really want Chud. They wanted Kelly, they missed out on him. They wanted Marrone and missed out on him while pursuing Kelly. They wanted McDaniels but McDaniels withdrew his name from consideration. They settled, and then the guy they settled on made personnel decisions that the FO didn't agree with and compiled one of the worst records over a 10 game span in Browns recent history.
It's not a mystery why he was fired.
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Mik seriously it wont even be a fair comparison. We are going to add 7 pieces from the first four rounds of the draft, spend significant money in free agency and the new coach will have a totally different toy to play with. I think our record sucked. I agree that Chud had some issues with clock management at times. Having said that I believe playing the hand he was dealt we saw improvement aside from the record. Perhaps it was a fluke but when Hoyer was at the helm this team kicked ass. Put Weeden / Campbell at the helm of most teams and they would suck too. I am sure that will be debated but its a fact.
You're right about Hoyer and that is part of the reason Chud was let go.
Chud gave the starting job to Weeden over Hoyer to begin the season at the behest of Mike Lombardi. Weeden lost two games, and Hoyer comes in and suddenly wins three games. That stroked Lombardi's ego and was the move that began digging Chud's grave.
Lombardi is on record calling Weeden a "panicked disaster" as well as claiming Hoyer to be a starting caliber QB, yet Chud still started Weeden over Hoyer.
This FO didn't really want Chud. They wanted Kelly, they missed out on him. They wanted Marrone and missed out on him while pursuing Kelly. They wanted McDaniels but McDaniels withdrew his name from consideration. They settled, and then the guy they settled on made personnel decisions that the FO didn't agree with and compiled one of the worst records over a 10 game span in Browns recent history.
It's not a mystery why he was fired.
You're right about Hoyer and that is part of the reason Chud was let go.
Chud gave the starting job to Weeden over Hoyer to begin the season at the behest of Mike Lombardi. Weeden lost two games, and Hoyer comes in and suddenly wins three games. That stroked Lombardi's ego and was the move that began digging Chud's grave.
Lombardi is on record calling Weeden a "panicked disaster" as well as claiming Hoyer to be a starting caliber QB, yet Chud still started Weeden over Hoyer.
This FO didn't really want Chud. They wanted Kelly, they missed out on him. They wanted Marrone and missed out on him while pursuing Kelly. They wanted McDaniels but McDaniels withdrew his name from consideration. They settled, and then the guy they settled on made personnel decisions that the FO didn't agree with and compiled one of the worst records over a 10 game span in Browns recent history.
It's not a mystery why he was fired.
Interesting take and one that makes sense.
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