Jonathan Paul Manziel
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most creative QB even in the NFL right now. I dont care if he's never taken a snap yet. He's amazing.
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Manziel's playing lights out, your an idiot if you think otherwise
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Looking at how he can change our team next year. With our revamped D from last year..... We are looking at the same old song and dance. F picking a QB in the first this year. Manziel, Carr, Bridgewater, or anyone else who will fail if we don't fix our D or O line. waste of a pick. Don't give a flying F if a better team pick them up and does better than us next year. We have a shit load of holes to plug up. Look at Bradford or stafford in their first years. how many wins how many playoff appearances? I mean a better team by them building the O-line, WR corp, and running game.. Put P manning on our team this past year and he would have sucked and been a cripple.
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what is a stick suck
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No other position directly affects whether you win or lose as much as the QB position. If you got a good one, you win, and the whole team looks better. If you don't you lose and convince yourself its the oline and defenses fault.
No way in hell we come out of the first round without a QB
And bye the way, we'd be superbowl contenders with Manning. No doubt about it.
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still suck. A'M D is looking like browns
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I'd give both first picks
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Fuck it. Draft Johnny Football. At least next year will be "exciting"
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Looking at how he can change our team next year. With our revamped D from last year..... We are looking at the same old song and dance. F picking a QB in the first this year. Manziel, Carr, Bridgewater, or anyone else who will fail if we don't fix our D or O line. waste of a pick. Don't give a flying F if a better team pick them up and does better than us next year. We have a shit load of holes to plug up. Look at Bradford or stafford in their first years. how many wins how many playoff appearances? I mean a better team by them building the O-line, WR corp, and running game.. Put P manning on our team this past year and he would have sucked and been a cripple.
Looking at how he can change our team next year. With our revamped D from last year..... We are looking at the same old song and dance. F picking a QB in the first this year. Manziel, Carr, Bridgewater, or anyone else who will fail if we don't fix our D or O line. waste of a pick. Don't give a flying F if a better team pick them up and does better than us next year. We have a shit load of holes to plug up. Look at Bradford or stafford in their first years. how many wins how many playoff appearances? I mean a better team by them building the O-line, WR corp, and running game.. Put P manning on our team this past year and he would have sucked and been a cripple.
A&M s defense sucks...Yet they win...THE hole we need to fill...QB
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Guy will be a superstar. The same people who say he sucks are the same ones who were sucking Weeden's nutsack at the beginning of the season.
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Manziel is the REAL DEAL.He makes NFL throws and has great escapeability.Lets please give him a chance if Cleveland drafts him.
I have watched a lot of him and he makes NFL throws.He is likely not going somewhere and just gonna be as good as Andrew luck or russel Wilson..and he may.
but if he comes here and goes 0-3 lets down throw him away on a bad start.This is a bad team. If he comes in and shows promise and again makes the throws be patient.
I believe he is the next Fran Tarkenton,I really really do
REmember how Elway always seemed to get away?Wouldnt it be nice to have one of those type QBs on our side?
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So if I watch the game tonight what should i look for and expect? Is he different than McCoy was at Texas?
If he can duplicate what Rodgers did on the last play of Sunday's game in Chicago I would be fueling the private jet up for a meet and greet in Texas or wherever Johnny ends up after tonight's game.
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Need to calm down on Johnny....he lit up Duke. LOL...their defense might be worse than Ohio State's. He won't be able to make those plays/throws in the NFL. We need a real QB, and coach, and Genreal Manager, and O-linemen....etc....etc....
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But now he made a couple o back shoulder fade throws that it didn't matter if ed reed was guarding the wr that ball was on this EXACT SPOT it needed to be...that's what im seeing. He makes throws in traffic with arms and bodys flyin and under pressure.He makes NFL throws...that's what Im seeing
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I thought he showed a lot of upswing. Finesse on the short throws, power and accuracy on the more vertical, good decision making, leadership, fiery competitor, excellent vision,
athletic as they come. As pointed out by the commentators he likes to lead with his shoulders before taking a tackle/hit and that need to be addressed with an easy fix. Overall, I was
impressed with his performance. Duke defense certainly not "Monsters of the Midway 2" but ,after all, the team did win 10 games this year.
This guy improved his value last night. 1st rounder?
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Great comeback last night... Showed me how competitive he is, which was great to see. He was tossing the ball all over the place, and in the midst of that crazy game his line was ... 30 for 38 for 382 and 4 TDs, 0 INTs, plus 11 carries for 73 yds and 1 TD. 455 total yards and 5 TDs... wow!
Sure, you can say it was against Duke but Manziel has been doing this to EVERY team he has played over the past 2 seasons... consistently. That might be what impresses me the most, his consistency.
I think he's a first round pick, right now, but I plan to watch some more of his games on Youtube to nitpick...
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I was able to watch the second half of the game last night, which, being honest, is the most I've watched Manziel play. He definitely played well, and congrats to him and the whole Texas A&M team on the great comeback. However, when considering the prospect of Manziel as the Browns QB, I'm a little concerned. To be clear, I am not really leaning strongly in either a positive or negative direction. As people have mentioned in this thread, his style of play seemed exciting, impromptu, and chaotic. Personally, for the NFL, I'd like to see something a little more controlled. I think that NFL defenses react and adjust better to the unexpected than do college defenses.
That's not to say that some QBs aren't/haven't been able to make that style of play work in the NFL. I guess I kind of see it like I see big-time college scramblers in general. Some find a significant amount of success in the NFL running around like they did in college. Some find they have a hard time running in the NFL at all. In my eyes, the same kind of goes for quarterbacks who had a great amount of success in college with an "ad hoc" style of play: some can make it work in the NFL, and some can't. I'm not sure which one of those Manziel will be. I am concerned that his size will negatively affect/will hinder that play-style in the NFL. I'm also afraid that such play is just more difficult to pull off in the NFL than it is in college.
I was about to hit "Post", but I'm afraid people will take this a negative post about Manziel's NFL future. I don't mean it to be. I would love nothing more than to see him come to the Browns, run around like a crazy man, and make all sorts of impossible-looking plays. And I don't know that he won't do that. I'm just saying that, at this point, I can't tell whether or not he'll be able to.
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