My take on the Head Coach search
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I see one of two scenarios, both of which are disgusting....
1) McDaniels has already agreed to accept the job & seeming unqualified candidates are being interviewed as a smoke screen to make the ultimate decision of hiring McDaniels look brilliant. This scenario is an insult to my intelligence.
2) McDaniels has said "NO" & these are "panic" interviews because viable candidates, after talking to Chud, Norv, Ray, current players, and/or others in the know, have told the Haslam group they are not interested. This scenario tells me the current FO didn't anticipate possible repercussions from the one year firing of a rookie HC.
IMHO, both scenarios came about due to deceit (Jimmys' pledge to us Fans of continuity), poor decision making (either making a lousy decision hiring Banner, Chud, or both), Banner hiring a totally unqualified Lombardi as GM, & Jimmy, to date, failing to hold Banner & Lombardi responsible for their part in this post season fiasco.
Note to Jimmy Haslam.....You, sir, are dealing with arguably the most passionate Fan base in the NFL. You came with an opportunity to right many wrongs & bring this proud franchise back to dominance. Instead, you now own a franchise mired in distrust, disdain, & lacking the credibility to move forward. Last year, you could sell a FO with vision & a plan. NOW, what can you sell?
I have been a faithful Browns' Fan since the mid 1950s & NEVER thought I would feel compelled to write something like this about the leadership of my beloved Browns.
Jimmy, the above statements are my observations & perceptions. Only you can prove me wrong & I pray that you do, but I guess the key words are, "We'll see".
Mike Flanagan...yes, I've put my real name to it.
Please excuse my signature...It should read, "Yes men are NEVER leaders!"
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
Well, they either fired the first year coach with:
a. No plan at all
b. A plan, but got turned down
c. A plan to hire the great Josh McDaniels, and are going to wait until after the patriot postseason run to announce it.
Jim-Ban-Bardo look like Retards right now.
And they have 9 potential starters entering free agency this year and next, including 4 Pro Bowlers (Ward, Mack, Haden, Cameron) and five other defensive starters who all rated pretty high in Tony Grossi's year-end player ranking (Rubin, Taylor, Sheard, Skrine, Gipson).
So .. how do we keep these nine guys? How do we attract new guys?
Or are we just going to be the best drafters ever and hire the best "yes man" ever to carry out Banbardi's plan?
Tell me these guys have some sort of plan other than thinking they can just out-draft everybody.
Who follows up a lame duck year with another lame duck year? WHO?
Let's bring another Patriots re-tread (our third in seven years) and roll the dice on another first round QB (our third in 7 years, fourth since 99), upgrade the jumbotron, change the uniforms and ask the fans about their "stadium experience".
Elsewhere in the division, returning for 2014:
Steelers:Rooney's 84th year, GM Colbert 14th year, Coach Tomlin 8th year QB Roethlisberger 10th year
Ravens: Biscotti 14th year, GM Newsome 18th year, Coach Harbaugh 7th year, QB Flacco 7th year
Bungles: Brown's 46th year, GM Mike Brown 23rd year, Coach Lewis 11th year, QB Dalton 4th year
We haven't been out of last place since 2007 ... but I am confident if we keep making changes, eventually we will have more 5-11 seasons than 4-12 seasons.
Zombo
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Well, they either fired the first year coach with:
a. No plan at all
b. A plan, but got turned down
c. A plan to hire the great Josh McDaniels, and are going to wait until after the patriot postseason run to announce it.
Jim-Ban-Bardo look like Retards right now.
And they have 9 potential starters entering free agency this year and next, including 4 Pro Bowlers (Ward, Mack, Haden, Cameron) and five other defensive starters who all rated pretty high in Tony Grossi's year-end player ranking (Rubin, Taylor, Sheard, Skrine, Gipson).
So .. how do we keep these nine guys? How do we attract new guys?
Or are we just going to be the best drafters ever and hire the best "yes man" ever to carry out Banbardi's plan?
Tell me these guys have some sort of plan other than thinking they can just out-draft everybody.
Who follows up a lame duck year with another lame duck year? WHO?
Let's bring another Patriots re-tread (our third in seven years) and roll the dice on another first round QB (our third in 7 years, fourth since 99), upgrade the jumbotron, change the uniforms and ask the fans about their "stadium experience".
Elsewhere in the division, returning for 2014:
Steelers:Rooney's 84th year, GM Colbert 14th year, Coach Tomlin 8th year QB Roethlisberger 10th year
Ravens: Biscotti 14th year, GM Newsome 18th year, Coach Harbaugh 7th year, QB Flacco 7th year
Bungles: Brown's 46th year, GM Mike Brown 23rd year, Coach Lewis 11th year, QB Dalton 4th year
We haven't been out of last place since 2007 ... but I am confident if we keep making changes, eventually we will have more 5-11 seasons than 4-12 seasons.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, they either fired the first year coach with:
a. No plan at all
b. A plan, but got turned down
c. A plan to hire the great Josh McDaniels, and are going to wait until after the patriot postseason run to announce it.
Jim-Ban-Bardo look like Retards right now.
And they have 9 potential starters entering free agency this year and next, including 4 Pro Bowlers (Ward, Mack, Haden, Cameron) and five other defensive starters who all rated pretty high in Tony Grossi's year-end player ranking (Rubin, Taylor, Sheard, Skrine, Gipson).
So .. how do we keep these nine guys? How do we attract new guys?
Or are we just going to be the best drafters ever and hire the best "yes man" ever to carry out Banbardi's plan?
Tell me these guys have some sort of plan other than thinking they can just out-draft everybody.
Who follows up a lame duck year with another lame duck year? WHO?
Let's bring another Patriots re-tread (our third in seven years) and roll the dice on another first round QB (our third in 7 years, fourth since 99), upgrade the jumbotron, change the uniforms and ask the fans about their "stadium experience".
Elsewhere in the division, returning for 2014:
Steelers:Rooney's 84th year, GM Colbert 14th year, Coach Tomlin 8th year QB Roethlisberger 10th year
Ravens: Biscotti 14th year, GM Newsome 18th year, Coach Harbaugh 7th year, QB Flacco 7th year
Bungles: Brown's 46th year, GM Mike Brown 23rd year, Coach Lewis 11th year, QB Dalton 4th year
We haven't been out of last place since 2007 ... but I am confident if we keep making changes, eventually we will have more 5-11 seasons than 4-12 seasons.
Zombo
Zombo,
Everything I FAILED to mention, you DID!! Thanks for having my back.
Mike
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Here are BanBardi's plans:
Plan A: Call Jimmy Sexton and ask him who we should hire for HC. Interview him. If they turn us down go to plan B.
Plan B: Call back Jimmy Sexton, tell him the first guy turned the Browns down. Tell him to give us another name. Interview him. If they turn us down, go to plan C.
Plan
Call back Jimmy Sexton, tell him the second guy turned the Browns down. He gives us another name. They turn us down...you get the point. -
I agree with both posts wholeheartedly.
Very well done.
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
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I just hope it works out in the end... whether by careful planing and extensive search.... or just pure dumb luck.
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
If it takes a football coach from Vanderbilt and a six-foot-nothing punk from Texas to turn this franchise around ... then I'm all for it.
At least it would be bold. Going down in flames beats whimpering to the finish line every year like you are in a Groundhog Day movie.
Zombo
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Yep. Take a chance, Then let 'em play THEIR way & see what happens. However, it does look as if Franklin may be headed to Penn State.
Mike
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Yep. Take a chance, Then let 'em play THEIR way & see what happens. However, it does look as if Franklin may be headed to Penn State.
Mike
Yep. Take a chance, Then let 'em play THEIR way & see what happens. However, it does look as if Franklin may be headed to Penn State.
Mike
That would THRILL me as a Penn State fan. I hope so.
As a Browns fan I am going to amp up my offseason drinking and google Browns videos from the 70's and 80's ... when we weren't great ... but we were fun ... and relevant.
Zombo
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@mike-h said:
Malzahn won't come to Cleveland. Too bad.
Good.
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@mike-h said:
People said that when Chip Kelly passed on the Browns too. Gus wrote the book on uptempo offense
If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
is anyone worried, given his prima donna attitude...that Manziel won't pull an Eli on us?
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Well would not worry about Manziel just yet. Need to worry about the coach. And getting one here!
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First - GREAT posts, Canton Mike, really OLD buddy, and Zombo. Seriously.
Those two posts should be sent to the three potato heads at the Browns fo.
Certified mail.
Second - what players want to come to a perpetual zoo in the Browns fo?
Or, what qualified coaches will even bother with an interview?
I wouldn't blame Manziel if he pulled an "Eli" - there' no Broadway here for
Johnny Broadway.
Besides, I get tired of announcers talking about how Barfsonhisbooger and Flacco are big
and tough to bring down and can stretch plays ....
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@mike-h said:
People said that when Chip Kelly passed on the Browns too. Gus wrote the book on uptempo offense
If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
Yup, so when he doesn't, they can fire him and start the process all over again. MHO is Haslam should already have fired Banner and Lombardi for creating this PR mess.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Currently I have 3 ABMs Beer- it's anything but Miller, Coaches- anything but McDaniels, qbs anything but Manziel. .
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If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
Yup, so when he doesn't, they can fire him and start the process all over again. MHO is Haslam should already have fired Banner and Lombardi for creating this PR mess.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Currently I have 3 ABMs Beer- it's anything but Miller, Coaches- anything but McDaniels, qbs anything but Manziel. .
Currently I have 3 ABMs Beer- it's anything but Miller, Coaches- anything but McDaniels, qbs anything but Manziel. .
Anything but miller? What about highlife, the champagne of beer?!
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Anything but miller? What about highlife, the champagne of beer?!
isn't that michelob?
either way both are nasty.
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