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  • F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
    #36

    I cannot understand why Peter Gabriel has shown indifference to his earlier days with Genesis?

    It was not from a lack of effort on the part of the group to include Gabriel with them on what was thier last tour in 2007, and he turned it down.....

    I liked the early "new" group without Gabriel actually, with Collins as the front guy - but apart from his costume get ups on stage - the guy can really sing.

  • I cannot understand why Peter Gabriel has shown indifference to his earlier days with Genesis?

    It was not from a lack of effort on the part of the group to include Gabriel with them on what was thier last tour in 2007, and he turned it down.....

    I liked the early "new" group without Gabriel actually, with Collins as the front guy - but apart from his costume get ups on stage - the guy can really sing.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
    #37

    @fairhooker11 said:

    I cannot understand why Peter Gabriel has shown indifference to his earlier days with Genesis?

    It was not from a lack of effort on the part of the group to include Gabriel with them on what was thier last tour in 2007, and he turned it down.....

    I liked the early "new" group without Gabriel actually, with Collins as the front guy - but apart from his costume get ups on stage - the guy can really sing.

    I doubt you guys got the ad in the states because it's for a british band, but since we're talking Genesis, you might like this quite surreal commercial (and if not, then just the music).

  • Not to mimic Freddie. Just to make money. Nobody can mimic Freddie. They also split with rogers btw and got Adam Lambert.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #38

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Not to mimic Freddie. Just to make money. Nobody can mimic Freddie. They also split with rogers btw and got Adam Lambert.

    Lambert comes/came as close to Mercury as anyone could.....a great voice. And a flamethrower as well.

  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
    #39

    I'll agree Lambert has a great voice but he's no Freddie mercury. All one needs to do is watch live aid 85 and see how Freddie has the entire crowd eating out of his hand on radio Gaga to know this guy was a special once in a lifetime talent. Only Michael Jackson compares to mercury in my book.

  • @fairhooker11 said:

    I cannot understand why Peter Gabriel has shown indifference to his earlier days with Genesis?

    It was not from a lack of effort on the part of the group to include Gabriel with them on what was thier last tour in 2007, and he turned it down.....

    I liked the early "new" group without Gabriel actually, with Collins as the front guy - but apart from his costume get ups on stage - the guy can really sing.

    I doubt you guys got the ad in the states because it's for a british band, but since we're talking Genesis, you might like this quite surreal commercial (and if not, then just the music).

    F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by FairHooker11
    #40

    @gftchris said:

    I doubt you guys got the ad in the states because it's for a british band, but since we're talking Genesis, you might like this quite surreal commercial (and if not, then just the music).

    but that's Collins stuff...

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
    #41

    I won't get into any matters of taste but I never thought Linda Ronstadt was that important or influential. Madonna certainly was and is. I would also think that Todd Rundgren has made enough of an impact on the industry to be included.

    WSS

  • I won't get into any matters of taste but I never thought Linda Ronstadt was that important or influential. Madonna certainly was and is. I would also think that Todd Rundgren has made enough of an impact on the industry to be included.

    WSS

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    I won't get into any matters of taste but I never thought Linda Ronstadt was that important or influential. Madonna certainly was and is. I would also think that Todd Rundgren has made enough of an impact on the industry to be included.

    WSS

    Steve, you know full well that they are not probably going to let a RRHOF class go by and not include women/minorities.

    So she was not competing with every other musician out there, only with the other women musicians out there for the female slot.

    So, from that stand point, she was probably a somewhat valid choice....if the RRHOF is going to go the politically correct route.

    Other females that could have been considered:

    Karen Carpenter/The Carpenters

    Connie Francis

    Annie Lennox/The Eurythmics

    Janet Jackson

    Suzi Quatro

    Whitney Houston

    Patsy Cline

    Joan Baez

    Nina Simone

    Then you get into the issue of what is "Rock n Roll" . Barbara Streisand ain't in.....and she is one of the best, most popular, biggest selling artists (male or female) of all time.

  • I won't get into any matters of taste but I never thought Linda Ronstadt was that important or influential. Madonna certainly was and is. I would also think that Todd Rundgren has made enough of an impact on the industry to be included.

    WSS

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by Bob806
    #43

    @westside-steve said:

    I won't get into any matters of taste but I never thought Linda Ronstadt was that important or influential. Madonna certainly was and is. I would also think that Todd Rundgren has made enough of an impact on the industry to be included.

    WSS

    Didn't Todd Rundgren play/compose every instrument on "A Wizard/A True Star?" If that's true, I bet he's the only musician to do something like that ever.

    FYI...I like Paul Rogers over Freddy Mercury, but maybe Jim Morrison had a better voice than either of those 2.

  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
    #44

    Jim was a crooner. I don't think you could compare him to either Rodgers or Mercury. He didn't have the range. A better comparison might be the guys he undoubtably listened to as a kid. He did have a memorable voice. I can't agree or fathom anyone thinking Rodgers has a better voice than Mercury but as Steve says, its art. I might not be able to imagine what anyone sees in Jackson Pollock but theres a huge Pollock hanging in the lobby at MOMA so somebody must think something of him

  • Jim was a crooner. I don't think you could compare him to either Rodgers or Mercury. He didn't have the range. A better comparison might be the guys he undoubtably listened to as a kid. He did have a memorable voice. I can't agree or fathom anyone thinking Rodgers has a better voice than Mercury but as Steve says, its art. I might not be able to imagine what anyone sees in Jackson Pollock but theres a huge Pollock hanging in the lobby at MOMA so somebody must think something of him

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Jim was a crooner. I don't think you could compare him to either Rodgers or Mercury. He didn't have the range. A better comparison might be the guys he undoubtably listened to as a kid. He did have a memorable voice. I can't agree or fathom anyone thinking Rodgers has a better voice than Mercury but as Steve says, its art. I might not be able to imagine what anyone sees in Jackson Pollock but theres a huge Pollock hanging in the lobby at MOMA so somebody must think something of him

    It's all a load of pollocks 😉

    I'm yet to find someone that matches freddy mercury's talent for singing, songwriting, music and showmanship all in one. There might be a better singer, or a better showman, but freddy had it all and was at or near the top in them all.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Jim was a crooner. I don't think you could compare him to either Rodgers or Mercury. He didn't have the range. A better comparison might be the guys he undoubtably listened to as a kid. He did have a memorable voice. I can't agree or fathom anyone thinking Rodgers has a better voice than Mercury but as Steve says, its art. I might not be able to imagine what anyone sees in Jackson Pollock but theres a huge Pollock hanging in the lobby at MOMA so somebody must think something of him

    It's all a load of pollocks 😉

    I'm yet to find someone that matches freddy mercury's talent for singing, songwriting, music and showmanship all in one. There might be a better singer, or a better showman, but freddy had it all and was at or near the top in them all.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #46

    @gftchris said:

    It's all a load of pollocks 😉

    I'm yet to find someone that matches freddy mercury's talent for singing, songwriting, music and showmanship all in one. There might be a better singer, or a better showman, but freddy had it all and was at or near the top in them all.

    Maybe....Elvis? (though I don't know if Elvis wrote any of his songs)

  • @gftchris said:

    It's all a load of pollocks 😉

    I'm yet to find someone that matches freddy mercury's talent for singing, songwriting, music and showmanship all in one. There might be a better singer, or a better showman, but freddy had it all and was at or near the top in them all.

    Maybe....Elvis? (though I don't know if Elvis wrote any of his songs)

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
    #47

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe....Elvis? (though I don't know if Elvis wrote any of his songs)

    I don't think Elvis was as skilled a musician as freddy, in terms of instruments, but I'll admit I don't know too much about him.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Maybe....Elvis? (though I don't know if Elvis wrote any of his songs)

    I don't think Elvis was as skilled a musician as freddy, in terms of instruments, but I'll admit I don't know too much about him.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @gftchris said:

    I don't think Elvis was as skilled a musician as freddy, in terms of instruments, but I'll admit I don't know too much about him.

    Elvis played guitar and piano. What else would you like him to play?

  • @gftchris said:

    I don't think Elvis was as skilled a musician as freddy, in terms of instruments, but I'll admit I don't know too much about him.

    Elvis played guitar and piano. What else would you like him to play?

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
    #49

    @the-gipper said:

    Elvis played guitar and piano. What else would you like him to play?

    Harpsichord, clarinet and triangle.

    I just get the impression that FM was one of those guys who could just pick up and play any kind of instrument you gave him, and in a week be at a very high level.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Jim was a crooner. I don't think you could compare him to either Rodgers or Mercury. He didn't have the range. A better comparison might be the guys he undoubtably listened to as a kid. He did have a memorable voice. I can't agree or fathom anyone thinking Rodgers has a better voice than Mercury but as Steve says, its art. I might not be able to imagine what anyone sees in Jackson Pollock but theres a huge Pollock hanging in the lobby at MOMA so somebody must think something of him

    It's all a load of pollocks 😉

    I'm yet to find someone that matches freddy mercury's talent for singing, songwriting, music and showmanship all in one. There might be a better singer, or a better showman, but freddy had it all and was at or near the top in them all.

    The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
    #50

    @gftchris said:

    It's all a load of pollocks 😉

    I'm yet to find someone that matches freddy mercury's talent for singing, songwriting, music and showmanship all in one. There might be a better singer, or a better showman, but freddy had it all and was at or near the top in them all.

    Michael Jackson is someone I'd put in Freddy's league, though I personally think mercury was the greatest of all time

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #51

    Freddy Mercury's favorite instrument was the skin flute........

  • Freddy Mercury's favorite instrument was the skin flute........

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #52

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Freddy Mercury's favorite instrument was the skin flute........

    I take it that you had intimate knowledge of that fact?

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #53

    Not me Gipper, but you on the other hand possibly........

  • F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
    #54

    enough Fredeady already

    Journey should be in next, - Steve Perry no slouch either

  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
    #55

    Steve Perry has also been replaced