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If Bridgewater and Bortles are gone what do you do?

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    I know I'll get slated for this, but if Manziel can prove his ability to throw in cold weather, take him at 4. Take Beckham, Yankey, Skov and Hyde to boot.

    @gftchris said:

    I know I'll get slated for this, but if Manziel can prove his ability to throw in cold weather, take him at 4. Take Beckham, Yankey, Skov and Hyde to boot.

    I like this list except for I take Christian Jones from FSU over Skov.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    btw, London Brown - where in London do you watch the games?

    @gftchris said:

    btw, London Brown - where in London do you watch the games?

    I have a gamepass subscription to see every Browns game and ESPN here shows the College stuff.

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  • Don't panic. Draft Watkins and Jordan Matthews in the 1st round.Hyde or Seastrunk in the 3rd and a TE in later rounds.Give Hoyer plenty of weapons to see if he is the guy.Next year will be QB heavy.

    miktoxicM 1 Reply

  • No clowney? if avail?

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • 7 7moses7

    Don't panic. Draft Watkins and Jordan Matthews in the 1st round.Hyde or Seastrunk in the 3rd and a TE in later rounds.Give Hoyer plenty of weapons to see if he is the guy.Next year will be QB heavy.

    @7moses7 said:

    Don't panic. Draft Watkins and Jordan Matthews in the 1st round.Hyde or Seastrunk in the 3rd and a TE in later rounds.Give Hoyer plenty of weapons to see if he is the guy.Next year will be QB heavy.

    i agree with the don't panic plan, but i also agree with jeffinwv, if clowney is there you gotta take him unless someone comes at you with a trade option that you can't refuse.

    there are other VERY good WRs besides watkins in this upcoming draft. i like the kid, i agree that he is a playmaker, but can we get someone with a little more height? half of the TD passes thrown in the end zone nowadays are to guys that are hovering over their CB matchups.

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  • L LondonBrown

    @gftchris said:

    btw, London Brown - where in London do you watch the games?

    I have a gamepass subscription to see every Browns game and ESPN here shows the College stuff.

    @londonbrown said:

    I have a gamepass subscription to see every Browns game and ESPN here shows the College stuff.

    Same on the gamepass. Just thinking it might be nice to watch the game with other browns fans some time.

    @7moses7 said:

    Don't panic. Draft Watkins and Jordan Matthews in the 1st round.Hyde or Seastrunk in the 3rd and a TE in later rounds.Give Hoyer plenty of weapons to see if he is the guy.Next year will be QB heavy.

    So take a first round WR, then a first round WR? Are you secretly Matt Millen? 😉

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  • I think I'm going to Empire Casino for the Superbowl actually, if that's any good might watch a Browns game there next year.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @londonbrown said:

    I have a gamepass subscription to see every Browns game and ESPN here shows the College stuff.

    Same on the gamepass. Just thinking it might be nice to watch the game with other browns fans some time.

    @7moses7 said:

    Don't panic. Draft Watkins and Jordan Matthews in the 1st round.Hyde or Seastrunk in the 3rd and a TE in later rounds.Give Hoyer plenty of weapons to see if he is the guy.Next year will be QB heavy.

    So take a first round WR, then a first round WR? Are you secretly Matt Millen? 😉

    @gftchris said:

    Same on the gamepass. Just thinking it might be nice to watch the game with other browns fans some time.

    So take a first round WR, then a first round WR? Are you secretly Matt Millen? 😉

    No I would clean out the WR on ths team.Replace with guys that can catch and make plays.(Little,Bess they GONE)

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @7moses7 said:

    Don't panic. Draft Watkins and Jordan Matthews in the 1st round.Hyde or Seastrunk in the 3rd and a TE in later rounds.Give Hoyer plenty of weapons to see if he is the guy.Next year will be QB heavy.

    i agree with the don't panic plan, but i also agree with jeffinwv, if clowney is there you gotta take him unless someone comes at you with a trade option that you can't refuse.

    there are other VERY good WRs besides watkins in this upcoming draft. i like the kid, i agree that he is a playmaker, but can we get someone with a little more height? half of the TD passes thrown in the end zone nowadays are to guys that are hovering over their CB matchups.

    @miktoxic said:

    i agree with the don't panic plan, but i also agree with jeffinwv, if clowney is there you gotta take him unless someone comes at you with a trade option that you can't refuse.

    there are other VERY good WRs besides watkins in this upcoming draft. i like the kid, i agree that he is a playmaker, but can we get someone with a little more height? half of the TD passes thrown in the end zone nowadays are to guys that are hovering over their CB matchups.

    Clowney seemed to lay down this past year,Albert Haynesworth comes to mind.

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  • This is a tricky draft...but it seems all the draft experts don't seem to be punishing clowney for this last years performance

  • 7 7moses7

    @miktoxic said:

    i agree with the don't panic plan, but i also agree with jeffinwv, if clowney is there you gotta take him unless someone comes at you with a trade option that you can't refuse.

    there are other VERY good WRs besides watkins in this upcoming draft. i like the kid, i agree that he is a playmaker, but can we get someone with a little more height? half of the TD passes thrown in the end zone nowadays are to guys that are hovering over their CB matchups.

    Clowney seemed to lay down this past year,Albert Haynesworth comes to mind.

    @7moses7 said:

    Clowney seemed to lay down this past year,Albert Haynesworth comes to mind.

    well most people were telling him not to play at all because of injury concern and he'd lose millions (RB lattimore from his same school blew his knees out in 2012 and prob never play again.....and he was a heisman trophy hopeful and would have been the first RB picked).

    you can't use this past year's performance as his measuring stick. the dude lights it up when it comes time to play.

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  • Well considering the front office has been linked to Manziel, I assume that's the direction they would go. Even if Bortles AND Bridgewater are on the board.

  • 7 7moses7

    @gftchris said:

    Same on the gamepass. Just thinking it might be nice to watch the game with other browns fans some time.

    So take a first round WR, then a first round WR? Are you secretly Matt Millen? 😉

    No I would clean out the WR on ths team.Replace with guys that can catch and make plays.(Little,Bess they GONE)

    @7moses7 said:

    No I would clean out the WR on ths team.Replace with guys that can catch and make plays.(Little,Bess they GONE)

    I agree they should be gone - got a feeling they won't be, but they should be. But that doesn't mean we need to have two new first rounders to replace them. One, sure, and maybe a later pick in the third/fourth, but we have other areas of concern that need addressing too.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @7moses7 said:

    Clowney seemed to lay down this past year,Albert Haynesworth comes to mind.

    well most people were telling him not to play at all because of injury concern and he'd lose millions (RB lattimore from his same school blew his knees out in 2012 and prob never play again.....and he was a heisman trophy hopeful and would have been the first RB picked).

    you can't use this past year's performance as his measuring stick. the dude lights it up when it comes time to play.

    @miktoxic said:

    well most people were telling him not to play at all because of injury concern and he'd lose millions (RB lattimore from his same school blew his knees out in 2012 and prob never play again.....and he was a heisman trophy hopeful and would have been the first RB picked).

    you can't use this past year's performance as his measuring stick. the dude lights it up when it comes time to play.

    Hard to say how he was influnced.Just like the idea of adding 2 playmakers especially with Gordon being 1 strike away.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @7moses7 said:

    No I would clean out the WR on ths team.Replace with guys that can catch and make plays.(Little,Bess they GONE)

    I agree they should be gone - got a feeling they won't be, but they should be. But that doesn't mean we need to have two new first rounders to replace them. One, sure, and maybe a later pick in the third/fourth, but we have other areas of concern that need addressing too.

    @gftchris said:

    I agree they should be gone - got a feeling they won't be, but they should be. But that doesn't mean we need to have two new first rounders to replace them. One, sure, and maybe a later pick in the third/fourth, but we have other areas of concern that need addressing too.

    Take the 2 top playmakers in the 1st.You still have 8 picks left.

  • Ill say I do not like AJ McCarron....I do not at all think hes got the NFL arm...I think he benefitted from being on Alabamas team..and yes take the two top playmakers....

  • Westside Steve made a good point in another thread, where if Browns do well this year we won't be in the top 5-10 for next year's draft. If we don't draft a QB this year, what do you do next year?

    If they do well with Hoyer, having armed him with some more offensive playmakers, do they draft a 2015 QB or not? Obviously if there are QB woes next year, causing another 4-12 or 5-11 season, then drafting a 2015 QB is mandatory. But if Browns do well yet still see a need for a future franchise QB beyond Hoyer, and say, will draft in the mid-upper teens minimum next year, does it make sense to trade up next year to get QB of their choice? I suppose that depends on how well the team does across the board, and how much other positions need upgrades. If they are all set except for QB, trading up seems like a no-brainer. But how likely is that to happen.

  • If Hoyer would become the guy you wouldn't need to draft a Francise QB.If and only if that's the case.If he isn't then you draft one.You package picks and or players to move up and pick the one you think is the guy.

  • It's hard to tell. Qb's rise and fall unpredictably before the draft. Last year Geno Smith started off as the unquestionably first overall pick.

    I also don't follow the logic that next year will be QB "Heavy". This is said every single year except for last. The only time it was true was 2012. But every year the next is claimed as QB heavy and we get up to it and find out that QB's didn't have as good of seasons and the Juniors are not leaving for the draft.

    Ruining threads since 1897.

  • My intuition tells me that the guy the Browns FO likes is Bortles. They think that with Josh McDaniels they can make him into a Brady type player.....or if not that, he is a big strong mobile guy ala BR/Flacco

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