Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I have to admit, Canton Mike is starting to convince me about Manziel being the great pick.
Johnny does have that fire, fierceness, love for the game, competitiveness and toughness, and
bigtime football smarts.
Although, I still wonder if Manziel is better off playing in a dome. Look at his college schedule.
Plays southern teams. How does he function in Nov and Dec in the swirling winds and snow
and rain in a northern open air stadium? Can he still be Manziel the escape artist? Can he
make the required throws vs the wind ?
In college, he almost always played in nice weather. That won't happen even if he is drafted
by a team with a dome. Throwing into tight windows in those conditions?
I don't know. But I can't really be all in with Johnny Manziel just yet, because it's too much fun to
make jokes and disagree with Canton Mike over the phone.
I have to admit, Canton Mike is starting to convince me about Manziel being the great pick.
Johnny does have that fire, fierceness, love for the game, competitiveness and toughness, and
bigtime football smarts.
Although, I still wonder if Manziel is better off playing in a dome. Look at his college schedule.
Plays southern teams. How does he function in Nov and Dec in the swirling winds and snow
and rain in a northern open air stadium? Can he still be Manziel the escape artist? Can he
make the required throws vs the wind ?
In college, he almost always played in nice weather. That won't happen even if he is drafted
by a team with a dome. Throwing into tight windows in those conditions?
I don't know. But I can't really be all in with Johnny Manziel just yet, because it's too much fun to
make jokes and disagree with Canton Mike over the phone.
The arguments ARE fun...especially because I always win!!!
Mike
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If the Browns passed on Manziel to trade for Romo I would drive my car through Zombo's ffront door.
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Here is a pretty interesting article breaking down stats on the top 4 QB prospects this year.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/45952/349/2014s-quarterback-conundrum
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Here is a pretty interesting article breaking down stats on the top 4 QB prospects this year.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/45952/349/2014s-quarterback-conundrum
Here is a pretty interesting article breaking down stats on the top 4 QB prospects this year.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/45952/349/2014s-quarterback-conundrum
Nice breakdown. so based on stats, anyone but Carr. Personally, I put Manziel as the highest injury risk- he's already gotten dinged a few times in college. So for me that means Bortles or Bridgewater.
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Here is a pretty interesting article breaking down stats on the top 4 QB prospects this year.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/45952/349/2014s-quarterback-conundrum
Nice breakdown. so based on stats, anyone but Carr. Personally, I put Manziel as the highest injury risk- he's already gotten dinged a few times in college. So for me that means Bortles or Bridgewater.
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I dont get the Manziel love, never played in bad weather and takes off all the time. We are in the WORST division for Johnny Football, he will be eaten alive.
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When they get Manziel in for a workout, they should take him outside and make him throw 50 out routes, see how he does. Maybe get Mingo to chase him down.
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It would be dumb not to brand the name if it has value. I don't see how you view that as a negative.
As for the IR comment.....possibly so. I suppose you could say that about any player in the league, but I understand your point. No doubt we would need to coach him and maybe bring Terry Francona in for a few days to make sure the kid knows how to slide.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Here's another thing that's subtle yet extremely important. Manziel is a big name who is going to get what I call the superstar QB treatment. What I mean by that is the Bradys and RG3 get calls (see the bullcrap call when NE played us). That type of treatment can have a HUGE impact on a game whether it's right or not. The duds we keep drafting are reffed entirely different.
Here's another thing that's subtle yet extremely important. Manziel is a big name who is going to get what I call the superstar QB treatment. What I mean by that is the Bradys and RG3 get calls (see the bullcrap call when NE played us). That type of treatment can have a HUGE impact on a game whether it's right or not. The duds we keep drafting are reffed entirely different.
But I don't think this would happen...The NFL would HUGELY benefit if Manziel takes off.Its just not every day you get a chance to draft a QB with his potential
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If the Browns passed on Manziel to trade for Romo I would drive my car through Zombo's ffront door.
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1. Romo is Campbell with emotion. no.
2. Manziel can't scramble around in a blizzard, and throw
into the wind. He's a warm weather, dome kind of qb.
3. They want to trade up to get a qb because they are tired
of Romo not getting it done under pressure.
4. Just say "NONO" to getting Romo.
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The arguments ARE fun...especially because I always think I win!!!
Mike
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fixed.....
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I love this place. Year after year, we have a crappy QB. A big name comes up and everybody says NO WAY he sucks... he's a loser... he's this age.... whaaaaa whaaa whaaa. Then every year when the season starts we enter with THE worse QB in the league. LOL Do you not see that maybe you should change your thinking? Romo would lead this team to a playoff. Yes, next season. You all would throw that away for another 2-14 season. LMAO
I love this place. Year after year, we have a crappy QB. A big name comes up and everybody says NO WAY he sucks... he's a loser... he's this age.... whaaaaa whaaa whaaa. Then every year when the season starts we enter with THE worse QB in the league. LOL Do you not see that maybe you should change your thinking? Romo would lead this team to a playoff. Yes, next season. You all would throw that away for another 2-14 season. LMAO
I will take Breez, Brady, Rodgers, Luck, RGIII, Kaepernick, Flaco, and Russ Wilson over Romo any day. All Romo has proven is that at clutch time, he loses. Period.
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1. Romo is Campbell with emotion. no.
2. Manziel can't scramble around in a blizzard, and throw
into the wind. He's a warm weather, dome kind of qb.
3. They want to trade up to get a qb because they are tired
of Romo not getting it done under pressure.
4. Just say "NONO" to getting Romo.
1. Romo is Campbell with emotion. no.
2. Manziel can't scramble around in a blizzard, and throw
into the wind. He's a warm weather, dome kind of qb.
3. They want to trade up to get a qb because they are tired
of Romo not getting it done under pressure.
4. Just say "NONO" to getting Romo.
I don't know many quarterbacks who can scramble and throw into the wind in a blizzard.
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Eli is a Retard, who in their right mind would take a shithole like New Jersey over San Diego?!
It had a lot more to do with the ownership/GM/coach situation there than the city itself. I understand that Archie Manning hated AJ Smith....for whatever reason.....and vice versa. It was kind of like when Elway wanted no part of Bob Irsay. Elway knew that the Colts under Bob Irsay were a complete mess...and he was right.
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I do like the 2 QB idea. But the second QB should come in the third round. Be it McCarron, Brett Smith, Garappolo, Boyd, or hell maybe Guiton later. Get an extra mobile QB to groom for Manziels backup.I would rather have Hoyer and Johnny Football as QB. I've had all the Weeden and Campbell I can stand. ugh.
Personally I'd release Weeden and Campbell then I'd draft two QBs in the first round. Take whichever QB that has the highest rating at 4 overall. I'd then trade the pick from the Colts(which will probably be within the last 4 picks in the first round) and whatever else it would take to move back up into the top ten of the draft and select the next highest rated QB. The point being that they both couldn't bust. I'm sick of the QB carousel shit, sick to death of it. Fix it, get it done. We're never getting any further as a franchise until it's settled.
Anyway that's what I would do. I might even bring in Tebow for one last hurrah. Go into the season with something like...
1)Hoyer
2)Manziel
3) Broyles, Carr or McCarron
4)Tebow
Somebody's gotta fucking pan out. That right there is 100 times better than another Weeden/Campbell campaign.
1.Hoyer
2.Manziel
3. Smith
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I do like the 2 QB idea. But the second QB should come in the third round. Be it McCarron, Brett Smith, Garappolo, Boyd, or hell maybe Guiton later. Get an extra mobile QB to groom for Manziels backup.
1.Hoyer
2.Manziel
3. Smith
If the Browns take a QB in the first round, I too have no problem using one of their lower round picks to take another.....but at best a 6th rounder......or even more likely a UFA ala Keith Price or the like.
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I love this place. Year after year, we have a crappy QB. A big name comes up and everybody says NO WAY he sucks... he's a loser... he's this age.... whaaaaa whaaa whaaa. Then every year when the season starts we enter with THE worse QB in the league. LOL Do you not see that maybe you should change your thinking? Romo would lead this team to a playoff. Yes, next season. You all would throw that away for another 2-14 season. LMAO
I love this place. Year after year, we have a crappy QB. A big name comes up and everybody says NO WAY he sucks... he's a loser... he's this age.... whaaaaa whaaa whaaa. Then every year when the season starts we enter with THE worse QB in the league. LOL Do you not see that maybe you should change your thinking? Romo would lead this team to a playoff. Yes, next season. You all would throw that away for another 2-14 season. LMAO
I am not saying I wouldn't take him on this team for the right price....that price being nearly nothing (Ok, maybe a 6th 7th rounder). But I would not be willing to give up what Zombo or others suggest, i.e. any high round pick....or trading/moving down our high round picks.
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You like that Price kid a lot don't ya? He beat out a Montana for the job at UW so he must be pretty good lol.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
You like that Price kid a lot don't ya? He beat out a Montana for the job at UW so he must be pretty good lol.
Yea....it comes primarily from seeing him outplay RGIII when the two met up. I like him at minimal investment as a project.....you know like at most 6th round. You know, like Brady π₯·
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If romo happened the cowboys will get the best qb of all time with the pick they acquired from the Browns and win 10 super bowls.
Just our luck.
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