Jonathan Paul Manziel
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You appear to be somewhat of a dick and know very little about football. Obviously you never played the game. Its more about heart and brains in the NFL as far as QB's go. Manzel will be a star.
i'm a dick and you're a stooge. so??
when he get's driven into the ground 2 feet deep by the likes of suh or fairley i'll laugh right in you're ugly mug. fuck face.
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just stfu already.
haslam is in love with manziel and we'll probably trade away half our picks to jump up and get the kid, so be happy.
be very very happy.
then talk to me in 2 years.
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Here is a picture of Johnny Manziel with others..... Here is what they are all listed height wise
Jordan Lynch 6'1"
Johnny Manziel 6'1"
Tre Mason 5'10"
AJ McCarron 6'4"
Andre Williams 6'0"
Jameis Winston 6'4"
The only thing you could say is someone, or everyone is lying about their height, because Winston and McCarron are nowhere near the same height.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
just stfu already.
haslam is in love with manziel and we'll probably trade away half our picks to jump up and get the kid, so be happy.
be very very happy.
then talk to me in 2 years.
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Here is a picture of Johnny Manziel with others.....
Here is what they are all listed height wise
Jordan Lynch 6'1"
Johnny Manziel 6'1"
Tre Mason 5'10"
AJ McCarron 6'4"
Andre Williams 6'0"
Jameis Winston 6'4"
The only thing you could say is someone, or everyone is lying about their height, because Winston and McCarron are nowhere near the same height.
Here is a picture of Johnny Manziel with others..... Here is what they are all listed height wise
Jordan Lynch 6'1"
Johnny Manziel 6'1"
Tre Mason 5'10"
AJ McCarron 6'4"
Andre Williams 6'0"
Jameis Winston 6'4"
The only thing you could say is someone, or everyone is lying about their height, because Winston and McCarron are nowhere near the same height.
alright. this is not to start an argument but you do know about depth right? and what it means if someone is standing closer to the camera than someone standing further away?
take a look at the photo again and you'll undeerstand about what i'm talking about.
and manziel is standing closer to the camera than mason which means he's prob closer to his height than the 6' 1" they noted.
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Here is a picture of Johnny Manziel with others.....
Here is what they are all listed height wise
Jordan Lynch 6'1"
Johnny Manziel 6'1"
Tre Mason 5'10"
AJ McCarron 6'4"
Andre Williams 6'0"
Jameis Winston 6'4"
The only thing you could say is someone, or everyone is lying about their height, because Winston and McCarron are nowhere near the same height.
alright. this is not to start an argument but you do know about depth right? and what it means if someone is standing closer to the camera than someone standing further away?
take a look at the photo again and you'll undeerstand about what i'm talking about.
and manziel is standing closer to the camera than mason which means he's prob closer to his height than the 6' 1" they noted.
alright. this is not to start an argument but you do know about depth right? and what it means if someone is standing closer to the camera than someone standing further away?
take a look at the photo again and you'll undeerstand about what i'm talking about.
and manziel is standing closer to the camera than mason which means he's prob closer to his height than the 6' 1" they noted.
I do know about depth. That being said the depth of this picture can't justify Winston and McCarron both being 6'4"
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what? you guys sit down over a cup of tea every afternoon? what route exactly has haslam chosen? hire rat bastards and fire people before they can prove themselves?
or is it i wanna be like jerry jones with my hands up everbody's ass being the puppet master?
please tell us all how you know this inside information.
My response was in regards to Bammer's complaint that we think it's okay to "take everyone else's scraps". I assumed he meant the people on this board who are all in with the fantasy of picking up Romo. He's saying other teams build from scratch, we'd settle for a well-worn QB to get us wins. And for some that posted, that's true. Hungry for winning NOW. Then I took a related topic, in my mind anyway, that Haslam is making choices that means he wants wins NOW as well. (e.g. Chud firing after 11 months on the job, Whisenhunt back in for an interview when Banner said no to looking at last year's candidates). It's been reported that Haslam is quite involved with the head coach search at the moment, and therefore I believe is calling the shots or having a heavy influence at minimum. At least during this critical time. I hope he isn't the next Jerry Jones. So IMO, he's looking to obtain a winning team by any means necessary. Perhaps I should rephrase: "I think it's obvious Haslam is willing to go this route, and will let it be known to the Banner/Lombardi duo".
I'd like to sit down for a drink with Jimmy, so I can find out what the fuck is going on as we all post and re-post speculations, dying to know what's next.
My response was in regards to Bammer's complaint that we think it's okay to "take everyone else's scraps". I assumed he meant the people on this board who are all in with the fantasy of picking up Romo. He's saying other teams build from scratch, we'd settle for a well-worn QB to get us wins. And for some that posted, that's true. Hungry for winning NOW. Then I took a related topic, in my mind anyway, that Haslam is making choices that means he wants wins NOW as well. (e.g. Chud firing after 11 months on the job, Whisenhunt back in for an interview when Banner said no to looking at last year's candidates). It's been reported that Haslam is quite involved with the head coach search at the moment, and therefore I believe is calling the shots or having a heavy influence at minimum. At least during this critical time. I hope he isn't the next Jerry Jones. So IMO, he's looking to obtain a winning team by any means necessary. Perhaps I should rephrase: "I think it's obvious Haslam is willing to go this route, and will let it be known to the Banner/Lombardi duo".
I'd like to sit down for a drink with Jimmy, so I can find out what the fuck is going on as we all post and re-post speculations, dying to know what's next.
Exactly
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So.....
The Cowgirls are willing to jettison A franchise quarterback (still has two or three years of quality playing time) and throw in their first round pick for Johnny Manziel. That means they think he will be able to start and play at peak performance on day one.
Or they aren't afraid to tank the upcoming season.
If that is in fact the case we'd be stupid to take that trade. Personally I think somebody is pulling somebody's dick.
WSS
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SO IF IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING NECESSARY TO PICK A QB THIS COMING DRAFT, WHERE ON THE ROSTER DOES HOYER LAND?
all you little faggots were screaming "HOYER IS FUCKING AWESOME. I THINK WE FINALLY FOUND OUR GUY!!!" while jerking off to him while he scrambled and completed passes. what's the matter now? he's not good enough for you anymore?
to all you manziel lovers hoyer is the same size if not bigger than manziel, and where was he by midseason? exactly.
everyone of these guys that are getting mocked to be in the top ten maybe ONE will be worthy of that pick. the rest may be ok, but i think 75% will be busts. do you really think the browns are going to make that ONE right pick????? (hahahahahahahahahahahahaha).
wouldn't you rather get a player at a position of need where it is very hard for that person NOT to live up to all the hype? i fucking guarantee you if we were to draft clowney we would automatically be close to top 5 defense in pass rush. all we would need is another LB with speed to cover and a CB then that side of the ball is DONE. finite. don't have to worry about it again.
but don't be mad little pussies because rat bastard banner and lack luster lombardi will be ALL over johnny football per haslam. so go buy your johnny manziel dolls now (will be probably to scale which means they can sit next to you at your little tea table with your easy bake ovens on it, and when he throws a TD you can roll him over and suck his little dick), or his fathead to stick on your wall or his jersey. go ahead. do it. do it right now.
you know why i know manziel is doomed in the NFL? because my friend who is a redskins fan(who is the biggest jinx in the world) told me that manziel will be great for us. i had to run outside because i had beer coming out of my nose...........i almost choked on those words. and all i had to say back to him was "yea, like RG3 is good for the skins."
and he couldn't say shit.
Manziel is not RGIII, or Mike Vick. Are you saying there's no way he puts on 15 lbs.? If he does hes Damn near the same size as Aaron Rodgers. From everything I've read hes a true student of the game, and he may be the best passer available in the draft. On top of all that, hes one he'll of a scrambler, feels pressure in the pocket, and has a quick release. Essentially all we can do is make a bet on who has the best chance for success, and my bets on Manziel. Hoyer is the same size as him, and Hoyer got hurt because he got caught from behind and forgot how to slide. Think about how good Manziel can be if he learns to use his elusiveness to avoid contact, and he puts on a few pounds. The sky's the limit IMHO.SO IF IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING NECESSARY TO PICK A QB THIS COMING DRAFT, WHERE ON THE ROSTER DOES HOYER LAND?
all you little faggots were screaming "HOYER IS FUCKING AWESOME. I THINK WE FINALLY FOUND OUR GUY!!!" while jerking off to him while he scrambled and completed passes. what's the matter now? he's not good enough for you anymore?
to all you manziel lovers hoyer is the same size if not bigger than manziel, and where was he by midseason? exactly.
everyone of these guys that are getting mocked to be in the top ten maybe ONE will be worthy of that pick. the rest may be ok, but i think 75% will be busts. do you really think the browns are going to make that ONE right pick????? (hahahahahahahahahahahahaha).
wouldn't you rather get a player at a position of need where it is very hard for that person NOT to live up to all the hype? i fucking guarantee you if we were to draft clowney we would automatically be close to top 5 defense in pass rush. all we would need is another LB with speed to cover and a CB then that side of the ball is DONE. finite. don't have to worry about it again.
but don't be mad little pussies because rat bastard banner and lack luster lombardi will be ALL over johnny football per haslam. so go buy your johnny manziel dolls now (will be probably to scale which means they can sit next to you at your little tea table with your easy bake ovens on it, and when he throws a TD you can roll him over and suck his little dick), or his fathead to stick on your wall or his jersey. go ahead. do it. do it right now.
you know why i know manziel is doomed in the NFL? because my friend who is a redskins fan(who is the biggest jinx in the world) told me that manziel will be great for us. i had to run outside because i had beer coming out of my nose...........i almost choked on those words. and all i had to say back to him was "yea, like RG3 is good for the skins."
and he couldn't say shit.
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Is Romo even out of the hospital yet?
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Tony Romo or Johnney Feetball?
I say Manziel
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Manziel is not RGIII, or Mike Vick. Are you saying there's no way he puts on 15 lbs.? If he does hes Damn near the same size as Aaron Rodgers. From everything I've read hes a true student of the game, and he may be the best passer available in the draft. On top of all that, hes one he'll of a scrambler, feels pressure in the pocket, and has a quick release. Essentially all we can do is make a bet on who has the best chance for success, and my bets on Manziel. Hoyer is the same size as him, and Hoyer got hurt because he got caught from behind and forgot how to slide. Think about how good Manziel can be if he learns to use his elusiveness to avoid contact, and he puts on a few pounds. The sky's the limit IMHO.SO IF IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING NECESSARY TO PICK A QB THIS COMING DRAFT, WHERE ON THE ROSTER DOES HOYER LAND?
all you little faggots were screaming "HOYER IS FUCKING AWESOME. I THINK WE FINALLY FOUND OUR GUY!!!" while jerking off to him while he scrambled and completed passes. what's the matter now? he's not good enough for you anymore?
to all you manziel lovers hoyer is the same size if not bigger than manziel, and where was he by midseason? exactly.
everyone of these guys that are getting mocked to be in the top ten maybe ONE will be worthy of that pick. the rest may be ok, but i think 75% will be busts. do you really think the browns are going to make that ONE right pick????? (hahahahahahahahahahahahaha).
wouldn't you rather get a player at a position of need where it is very hard for that person NOT to live up to all the hype? i fucking guarantee you if we were to draft clowney we would automatically be close to top 5 defense in pass rush. all we would need is another LB with speed to cover and a CB then that side of the ball is DONE. finite. don't have to worry about it again.
but don't be mad little pussies because rat bastard banner and lack luster lombardi will be ALL over johnny football per haslam. so go buy your johnny manziel dolls now (will be probably to scale which means they can sit next to you at your little tea table with your easy bake ovens on it, and when he throws a TD you can roll him over and suck his little dick), or his fathead to stick on your wall or his jersey. go ahead. do it. do it right now.
you know why i know manziel is doomed in the NFL? because my friend who is a redskins fan(who is the biggest jinx in the world) told me that manziel will be great for us. i had to run outside because i had beer coming out of my nose...........i almost choked on those words. and all i had to say back to him was "yea, like RG3 is good for the skins."
and he couldn't say shit.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Manziel is not RGIII, or Mike Vick. Are you saying there's no way he puts on 15 lbs.? If he does hes Damn near the same size as Aaron Rodgers. From everything I've read hes a true student of the game, and he may be the best passer available in the draft. On top of all that, hes one he'll of a scrambler, feels pressure in the pocket, and has a quick release. Essentially all we can do is make a bet on who has the best chance for success, and my bets on Manziel. Hoyer is the same size as him, and Hoyer got hurt because he got caught from behind and forgot how to slide. Think about how good Manziel can be if he learns to use his elusiveness to avoid contact, and he puts on a few pounds. The sky's the limit IMHO.
listen as i've said, i don't hate the kid, i just don't think he's worth our 1st pick. the probability of a QB bust at that high a pick is very high compared to other positions of need.
at least we know hoyer can play in the NFL. manziel doesn't have a snap yet. manziel does have great escapability and a good arm but those qualities sometimes do not transfer to the NFL where everyone one is fast and every hit is hard. some former NFLer said it on espn the other day. you might get hit hard once or twice in a game in college every saturday but you get hit hard 20x that every sunday.
and if hoyer=manziel then why do we need manziel? i just want one manziel fan to answer that question.
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so is it ok to assume those stats are correct for Brees and Wilson, but not for Manziel?
????? We will see when the tapemeasure get put to him at the combine. Hard to say a for sure thing but in this instance Sammy Watkins seems much safer with a pick. This Franchise CAN NOT miss with the 4 pick. We are fucked if we miss with qb for the next 4 yrs. I am not that high on Manzel sorry.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Manziel is not RGIII, or Mike Vick. Are you saying there's no way he puts on 15 lbs.? If he does hes Damn near the same size as Aaron Rodgers. From everything I've read hes a true student of the game, and he may be the best passer available in the draft. On top of all that, hes one he'll of a scrambler, feels pressure in the pocket, and has a quick release. Essentially all we can do is make a bet on who has the best chance for success, and my bets on Manziel. Hoyer is the same size as him, and Hoyer got hurt because he got caught from behind and forgot how to slide. Think about how good Manziel can be if he learns to use his elusiveness to avoid contact, and he puts on a few pounds. The sky's the limit IMHO.
listen as i've said, i don't hate the kid, i just don't think he's worth our 1st pick. the probability of a QB bust at that high a pick is very high compared to other positions of need.
at least we know hoyer can play in the NFL. manziel doesn't have a snap yet. manziel does have great escapability and a good arm but those qualities sometimes do not transfer to the NFL where everyone one is fast and every hit is hard. some former NFLer said it on espn the other day. you might get hit hard once or twice in a game in college every saturday but you get hit hard 20x that every sunday.
and if hoyer=manziel then why do we need manziel? i just want one manziel fan to answer that question.
the answer to your question is potential. To win in the league nowadays you HAVE to have a top 10 QB. Manziel has the potential to develop into that good of a player....Hoyer is already at his ceiling and while he may be serviceable, and with the right pieces around him, you may get to the playoffs, he will never bring home a championship.listen as i've said, i don't hate the kid, i just don't think he's worth our 1st pick. the probability of a QB bust at that high a pick is very high compared to other positions of need.
at least we know hoyer can play in the NFL. manziel doesn't have a snap yet. manziel does have great escapability and a good arm but those qualities sometimes do not transfer to the NFL where everyone one is fast and every hit is hard. some former NFLer said it on espn the other day. you might get hit hard once or twice in a game in college every saturday but you get hit hard 20x that every sunday.
and if hoyer=manziel then why do we need manziel? i just want one manziel fan to answer that question.
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@walterwhite said:
After having my Sundays ruined for the past 15 years watching this boring team get beat down every week, I'm ready for a little excitement win or lose.Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Brandon Weedon, Kelly Stoffer, Joey Harrington,Rich Campbell, Tim Couch, Heath Schuler, Akili Smith, Rick Mirer, and Art Schlichter all had prototypical size, strength, and big arms.Not me I'll take the most boring qb ever if we win!!!
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Manziel will be so overhyped by May that he will be taken before we get a chance. Are all you Manziel lovers so infatuated with him you are willing to package our 2nd 1st rounder for him? I'm saying right now that is what it will take come may
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the answer to your question is potential. To win in the league nowadays you HAVE to have a top 10 QB. Manziel has the potential to develop into that good of a player....Hoyer is already at his ceiling and while he may be serviceable, and with the right pieces around him, you may get to the playoffs, he will never bring home a championship.listen as i've said, i don't hate the kid, i just don't think he's worth our 1st pick. the probability of a QB bust at that high a pick is very high compared to other positions of need.
at least we know hoyer can play in the NFL. manziel doesn't have a snap yet. manziel does have great escapability and a good arm but those qualities sometimes do not transfer to the NFL where everyone one is fast and every hit is hard. some former NFLer said it on espn the other day. you might get hit hard once or twice in a game in college every saturday but you get hit hard 20x that every sunday.
and if hoyer=manziel then why do we need manziel? i just want one manziel fan to answer that question.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
the answer to your question is potential. To win in the league nowadays you HAVE to have a top 10 QB. Manziel has the potential to develop into that good of a player....Hoyer is already at his ceiling and while he may be serviceable, and with the right pieces around him, you may get to the playoffs, he will never bring home a championship.
Ur kidding right? Hoyer at his ceiling after 4 starts and no consistent playing time? Comon man
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I dunno, dude needs to get into the weight room instead of spending all this time getting his endorsement deals lined up. If Manz were in cleveland, can you see this little guy surviving bitch slapping from Burfict, Suggs and geno atkins? he will be looking like mr salty, the pretzel dude, after these thugs rock his natural word. lets see how "competitive" he remains in the big boys league.
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If the Browns passed on Manziel to trade for Romo I would drive my car through Zombo's ffront door.
If the Browns passed on Manziel to trade for Romo I would drive my car through Zombo's ffront door.
I'm fairly sure that Z only has a "backdoor"...
I don't know many quarterbacks who can scramble and throw into the wind in a blizzard.
Fran Tarkenton comes to mind... but then I'm old...
Oh... and Fran had a weak arm to boot...
Zombo said:
Seriously, if we were to put Romo under center and grab a good young running back, we would be a good team ... tomorrow.
... but how good and what about the day after tomorrow???
Z, it would be a classic error to make a trade like that.
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If the Browns passed on Manziel to trade for Romo I would drive my car through Zombo's ffront door.
I'm fairly sure that Z only has a "backdoor"...
I don't know many quarterbacks who can scramble and throw into the wind in a blizzard.
Fran Tarkenton comes to mind... but then I'm old...
Oh... and Fran had a weak arm to boot...
Zombo said:
Seriously, if we were to put Romo under center and grab a good young running back, we would be a good team ... tomorrow.
... but how good and what about the day after tomorrow???
Z, it would be a classic error to make a trade like that.
I'm fairly sure that Z only has a "backdoor"...
Fran Tarkenton comes to mind... but then I'm old...
Oh... and Fran had a weak arm to boot...
... but how good and what about the day after tomorrow???
Z, it would be a classic error to make a trade like that.
Good enough to win the divison and for four or five years.
But OK ... let's let Banner and Lombardi pick a franchise QB for us instead. I'm sure the guy they pick will far surpass the like of a franchise pro bowl QB like Romo.
Zombo
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