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A Different Opinion on the Browns coaching search

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I basically agree with this guy. The way the system is now requires team to hurry hurry scurry scurry for a new HC. If the NFL put a moratorium on hiring HCs until after the Super Bowl, good.

    As noted, compare this to the draft situation: The NFL apparently requires underclassmen to declare for the draft by January 15th......yet the draft isn't until May now. Why the hurry up and wait?

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #3

    @the-gipper said:

    As noted, compare this to the draft situation: The NFL apparently requires underclassmen to declare for the draft by January 15th......yet the draft isn't until May now. Why the hurry up and wait?

    I'm sure part of that is for the combine since that comes up just a week or two after the super bowl even though the draft isn't till early May.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #4

    .. or some teams know what they want and when they see it, they stop looking and sign it so that their guy can begin assembling a staff...

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  • C cuwoohio wrote on
    #5

    "Ive never thought of them this way before, but the Browns might be the smart ones here. Theyre taking their time to find a head coach. At least this time. Theyre determined to find the right guy. Even if hes not available right now."

    Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!and this came afetr the deep freeze

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on
    #6

    Now that I've had time to cool off & think more rationally, I tend to agree with the lead post on this thread. I still think some things were not handled well, & I'm still suspicious (especially of Lombardi), but I'll remain open to what takes place & we'll just see how it goes. I DO however, expect that their fast reaction will result in equally fast positive results.

    This whole thing is sure keeping our interest, isn't it?

    I definitely agree with putting a moratorium on coaching hires until after the Super Bowl, but the Browns may be a HUGE beneficiary of the current system this year. Let's HOPE!

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #7

    i call bullshit.

    Mark OM 1 Reply
  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on
    #8

    I feel the same way. I'm fine with them waiting. What does it matter if we were the first ones to hire a guy? If they get who they want, then no one will care.

    once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i call bullshit.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #9

    @miktoxic said:

    i call bullshit.

    Which part?

  • R roach wrote on
    #10

    I'm one that wasn't happy about Chud being fired. But that's done. Now, I'm glad that we are the last team standing without a HC. From a candidate standpoint, we've gone from the least favorable team to the most favorable team. All those candidates, and only one slot open......... The Browns get the pick of the remaining litter. A nice position to be in for guys that aspire to be a HC.

    Mark OM D BoneD Tour2maT 3 Replies
  • R roach

    I'm one that wasn't happy about Chud being fired. But that's done. Now, I'm glad that we are the last team standing without a HC. From a candidate standpoint, we've gone from the least favorable team to the most favorable team. All those candidates, and only one slot open......... The Browns get the pick of the remaining litter. A nice position to be in for guys that aspire to be a HC.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #11

    @roach said:

    I'm one that wasn't happy about Chud being fired. But that's done. Now, I'm glad that we are the last team standing without a HC. From a candidate standpoint, we've gone from the least favorable team to the most favorable team. All those candidates, and only one slot open......... The Browns get the pick of the remaining litter. A nice position to be in for guys that aspire to be a HC.

    When is your interview?

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on
    #12

    So lets say that Gase doesn't take the job or the DC from seattle, what happens then? We hire a special teams coach from a lower division college? This is what worries me. I have not faith in Lombardi or Banner. Hate Lombardi. Is Hate a strong word?

  • Sienn13S Sienn13 wrote on
    #13

    Thanks Mark O, great post. Wasn't too happy with the Chud firing but its time to move on. Im happy there taking there time and not rushing to get the flavor of the week!

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #14

    not that I think that taking your time is the wrong approach, cause it isn't....but I think had the first couple guys they talked to said yes we'd have a new coach right now blowing sunshine up our collective asses about how next year won't be that big of a rebuild..pinky swear. I just don't give the FO that much credit anymore. THey're taking their time cause nobody has said definitively he wants the job. But ole Jimmeh is good and damn right that this decision is an important one. I would dare say this decision may be the most important one since they came back in 99. If they fuck this decision up and come to the conclusion in a year or two that yet again "this wasn't the guy".....they could shitcan this franchise for a decade real talk.

  • R roach

    I'm one that wasn't happy about Chud being fired. But that's done. Now, I'm glad that we are the last team standing without a HC. From a candidate standpoint, we've gone from the least favorable team to the most favorable team. All those candidates, and only one slot open......... The Browns get the pick of the remaining litter. A nice position to be in for guys that aspire to be a HC.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #15

    @roach said:

    Now, I'm glad that we are the last team standing without a HC. From a candidate standpoint, we've gone from the least favorable team to the most favorable team. All those candidates, and only one slot open......... The Browns get the pick of the remaining litter. A nice position to be in for guys that aspire to be a HC.

    That does makes sense.........

    @lbc-mike said:

    So lets say that Gase doesn't take the job or the DC from seattle, what happens then? We hire a special teams coach from a lower division college? This is what worries me. I have not faith in Lombardi or Banner. Hate Lombardi. Is Hate a strong word?

    ...........but unfortunately so does that.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #16

    taking their time and being keen on who they hire is one thing. having great candidates turn down the job is another. who's to say that half these guys weren't offered the job in cleveland but decided to turn t down because of the history of this FO so far.

    the more i think about it, the more i think haslam is doing a jerry jones and a holmgren who wants 'their' guys in there so they can sit by the fireplace and talk about players they wished they had drafted and spitting tobacco 'chew' 15 feet away into the spitoons in his living room.

  • R roach

    I'm one that wasn't happy about Chud being fired. But that's done. Now, I'm glad that we are the last team standing without a HC. From a candidate standpoint, we've gone from the least favorable team to the most favorable team. All those candidates, and only one slot open......... The Browns get the pick of the remaining litter. A nice position to be in for guys that aspire to be a HC.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #17

    @roach said:

    I'm one that wasn't happy about Chud being fired. But that's done. Now, I'm glad that we are the last team standing without a HC. From a candidate standpoint, we've gone from the least favorable team to the most favorable team. All those candidates, and only one slot open......... The Browns get the pick of the remaining litter. A nice position to be in for guys that aspire to be a HC.

    1. We're now the only team, so we are both the least and most "favorable team".

    2. You do know how litter picking works right?

    Look... I agree on Chud and I'm moving on as well.

    While I'm not shedding tears over missing out on some of the retreads that have landed jobs (McDaniels, Caldwell), others (Smith) were proven winners that would have brought their experience to bear. Same is true for the former assistant coaches who have signed on for their first, NFL, HC gig.

    It's not so much that there are no good HC candidates left.... I'm sure there are. It's that the league-wide process of assembling new staffs is underway and any team, i.e., us, without a HC has to tread water until their new leader is on-board.

    @canton-mike said:

    I definitely agree with putting a moratorium on coaching hires until after the Super Bowl, but the Browns may be a HUGE beneficiary of the current system this year. Let's HOPE!

    How so, Mike?

    @miktoxic said:

    the more i think about it, the more i think haslam is doing a jerry jones...

    My greatest fear in a nutshell...

    Two years of ownership... two HCs... (sarcasm alert) obviously Jimmy has brought the Pittsburgh model to Cleveland... 😎

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  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #18

    Wheter this is true or not remains to be seen but it does make me feel better about the whole situation, so there's that.

  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #19

    Saying we're the most desirable job in the NFL right now is true, I guess, but that doesn't count for the fact that 5 other teams have had their pick before us. Like in the draft - we might get who we actually want at #4, but to be sure of getting your guy you have to go up to number 1. Not feeling a lot better about the search after reading that, although I agree on an embargo until after the SB.

  • tml1138T tml1138 wrote on
    #20

    Gase was the Browns very first choice to interview. Seems quite convenient that he was the only one to turn down all interviews until after the Broncos season was over. Ideal scapegoat to employ while they are searching in a frenzy for a new coach and get turned down left and right.

    Maybe just a conspiracy theory...but makes you wonder.

  • cdl15C cdl15 wrote on
    #21

    absolutely this is just a testament on how the Browns are doing it right and how all other 31 teams don't know what they're doing.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #22

    We are assuming they are waiting for Glase (or some still think McDaniels) or even Quinn because those are the names that the media has bandied about.

    But maybe they are waiting to interview:

    49ers OC Greg Roman: John Carroll Grad has has guided SF's offense to three straight NFC Championships with two different QBs with completely different styles.

    49ers DC Vic Fangio Niners suddenly became a defensive force when he entered the scene, has worked for both Harbaughs. Harbaughs win.

    Seahawks OC Darrell Bevell: At 44, he has already been an OC in the league since 2006 and worked with successful offenses in GB, Min and Sea

    I think all three of these guys are at least interview-worthy.

    Zombo

    --Or maybe Jimmy likes the cut of the cut of the jib of Broncos DC Jack Del Rio and thinks he deserves a second chance?

    The GipperT Z jcam222J 3 Replies
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