Retired cop shoots man in movie theater — over textin
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Except the numbers demonstrate you're wrong:
A few post back Logic made the point not to post anything from gunsarescary.com or gunsmakemydickstiff.net
I think GunsSaveLives.net would fall in that category
Until you actually read the site.A few post back Logic made the point not to post anything from gunsarescary.com or gunsmakemydickstiff.net
I think GunsSaveLives.net would fall in that category
Basically a national crawler that links to stories where guns are used in self defense (and the national media is too pussy to report or deliberately ignoring). Owner of the site does add his own commentary which I'm sure you can guess which side he supports.
Basically he takes the sensationalism out of the news (with regards to this topic) in the 24-hr news culture and reports "the news"
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
I understand however how it's merely easier for you to write off the site and chortle "Merica" out of the side of your mouth instead when confronted with facts that dismantle an ideology you hold.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
Until you actually read the site.A few post back Logic made the point not to post anything from gunsarescary.com or gunsmakemydickstiff.net
I think GunsSaveLives.net would fall in that category
Basically a national crawler that links to stories where guns are used in self defense (and the national media is too pussy to report or deliberately ignoring). Owner of the site does add his own commentary which I'm sure you can guess which side he supports.
Basically he takes the sensationalism out of the news (with regards to this topic) in the 24-hr news culture and reports "the news"
Until you actually read the site.
Basically a national crawler that links to stories where guns are used in self defense (and the national media is too pussy to report or deliberately ignoring). Owner of the site does add his own commentary which I'm sure you can guess which side he supports.
Basically he takes the sensationalism out of the news (with regards to this topic) in the 24-hr news culture and reports "the news"
I briefly looked at it (went to Ohio). I saw it was a bunch of stories. I never doubted they existed. A good set of statistics would be the way to go. I'm guessing it would be hard to find an unbiased set of data for either side.
Also, another way to look at that list is an I increases number of deaths. It would be dumb for robbers to kill whoever they're robbing all the time. I'm guessing that the victim wasn't in life threatening danger for every incident where they shot and killed a criminal.
But like I said, I'm not trying to take a gun out of a persons home. I also saw so e store owners using guns in self defense. No problem there either.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I understand however how it's merely easier for you to write off the site and chortle "Merica" out of the side of your mouth instead when confronted with facts that dismantle an ideology you hold.
I understand however how it's merely easier for you to write off the site and chortle "Merica" out of the side of your mouth instead when confronted with facts that dismantle an ideology you hold.
Lol, not at all. That site isn't disproving anything I said. Many instances seem to be homeowners and store owners. I have no problem with that.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Until you actually read the site.
Basically a national crawler that links to stories where guns are used in self defense (and the national media is too pussy to report or deliberately ignoring). Owner of the site does add his own commentary which I'm sure you can guess which side he supports.
Basically he takes the sensationalism out of the news (with regards to this topic) in the 24-hr news culture and reports "the news"
I briefly looked at it (went to Ohio). I saw it was a bunch of stories. I never doubted they existed. A good set of statistics would be the way to go. I'm guessing it would be hard to find an unbiased set of data for either side.
Also, another way to look at that list is an I increases number of deaths. It would be dumb for robbers to kill whoever they're robbing all the time. I'm guessing that the victim wasn't in life threatening danger for every incident where they shot and killed a criminal.
But like I said, I'm not trying to take a gun out of a persons home. I also saw so e store owners using guns in self defense. No problem there either.
I briefly looked at it (went to Ohio). I saw it was a bunch of stories. I never doubted they existed. A good set of statistics would be the way to go. I'm guessing it would be hard to find an unbiased set of data for either side.
ask and ye shall receive: The Kleck & Gertz study 1995
https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
(Look at footnote #1 - and the attempted opposition to the study)
Also, another way to look at that list is an I increases number of deaths. It would be dumb for robbers to kill whoever they're robbing all the time. I'm guessing that the victim wasn't in life threatening danger for every incident where they shot and killed a criminal.
Hard to tell, but I bet you look at the percentage of acquittals where "self-defense" was used and you'll find a judge and jury that concludes "life-threatening danger" was most certainly present.
I also don't think many "robbers" use the kind of logic you're suggesting. But I wouldn't know.
But like I said, I'm not trying to take a gun out of a persons home. I also saw so e store owners using guns in self defense. No problem there either.
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I understand however how it's merely easier for you to write off the site and chortle "Merica" out of the side of your mouth instead when confronted with facts that dismantle an ideology you hold.
Lol, not at all. That site isn't disproving anything I said. Many instances seem to be homeowners and store owners. I have no problem with that.
Lol, not at all. That site isn't disproving anything I said. Many instances seem to be homeowners and store owners. I have no problem with that.
It most certainly did. You grouped it with a guns&dicks.com or whatever thereby writing it off as another blaze.com or whatever.
It's a news aggregator with a focus on covering a topic the administrator feels goes under-reported.
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OTOH, here is a very recent video where I think a gun was used rather aggressively. I wasn't in the officer's shoes, nor do we get the complete history of the encounter (or even previous encounters if any)but I think 1 or 2 to the knee/leg would have been sufficient and would have neutralized the threat and allowed the officer to re-assess the situation without taking the man's life.
To clarify, I find no fault with the officers actions, nor his professionalism. He was backing up, warned the man many times, etc. Again, I just think shot placement could have been different.
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OTOH, here is a very recent video where I think a gun was used rather aggressively. I wasn't in the officer's shoes, nor do we get the complete history of the encounter (or even previous encounters if any)but I think 1 or 2 to the knee/leg would have been sufficient and would have neutralized the threat and allowed the officer to re-assess the situation without taking the man's life.
To clarify, I find no fault with the officers actions, nor his professionalism. He was backing up, warned the man many times, etc. Again, I just think shot placement could have been different.
OTOH, here is a very recent video where I think a gun was used rather aggressively. I wasn't in the officer's shoes, nor do we get the complete history of the encounter (or even previous encounters if any)but I think 1 or 2 to the knee/leg would have been sufficient and would have neutralized the threat and allowed the officer to re-assess the situation without taking the man's life.
To clarify, I find no fault with the officers actions, nor his professionalism. He was backing up, warned the man many times, etc. Again, I just think shot placement could have been different.
Seriously, 5 shots? I would've shot him too, but I think one would have sufficed regardless of where it was placed.
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Jesus christ.... that seemed excessive
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Jesus christ.... that seemed excessive
This was a training issue. They beat it into police officer's heads that if someone has a knife within 30 feet they are a danger to the officer. This is very true but it puts this horrific fear in their heads so as soon as they are in the situation they get twitchy and end up ripping off 5 rounds into a guy's chest. Step back and fire for the pelvic girdle if you have enough time to repeatedly tell someone to stop.
Bear in mind that this is all coaching after the fact. I have never had to be in the situation of having a clearly disturbed person advance on me with a knife.
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Well, studies have shown, as we were taught in our ccw class,
that generally, it takes about 1.5 seconds for someone 20' away to
run at you and assault you. The kid was really high on something. Or,.
he was flat out suicidal. That seems exactly about 20 '.
http://www.theppsc.org/Staff_Views/Tueller/How.Close.htm
I watched the video, and I can't believe, although the shooting was justified,
that the officer didn't just shoot him in the knee to stop him, render him defenseless
to continue his assault. OTH, a sheriff told me, that they dealt with people on whatever
drug it was, and they were extremely dangerous, and nearly unstoppable. Every day, or every other day.
That's when he advised me to be armed out in our woods.. Especially in case of a stranger trespassing,
and coming after me, doped up.
The kid was advancing on the officer after seeing? the gun, and being warned. But I believe
one shot would have stopped him. Seemed excessive. The officer no doubt was pretty scared,
and reacted scared.
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If he had rushed the Officer I could see it. He was advancing slowly so I don't think this was justified. However, hindsight is 20/20 and it is impossible to predict how anyone would react in this situation.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a3_1390237830
Old guy wanted suicide by cop and that is what he got.
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