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  • W Westside Steve

    Fucked up?

    You're defending firing someone for supporting a political party that you don't like.

    WSS

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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    Fucked up?

    You're defending firing someone for supporting a political party that you don't like.

    WSS

    No Steve, that is not what I am saying. Would you like to try again?

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      They pay the cost, they get to be the boss. She voiced her opinion, it didn't jive with their message, and thus they can let her go. The same can be said for any other business institution.

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        @westside-steve said:

        Fucked up?

        You're defending firing someone for supporting a political party that you don't like.

        WSS

        No Steve, that is not what I am saying. Would you like to try again?

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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        @mld-woody said:

        No Steve, that is not what I am saying. Would you like to try again?

        That's exactly what you were doing.

        Maybe you could rethink or amend it...

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          Well I guess you know what I was saying better than I do.

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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            Yep.

            She supported a political candidate they (and apparently you) didn't like and they canned her. You said that was fine.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              Yep, clearly that was all there was to what I posted. Nothing more.

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                Yep, clearly that was all there was to what I posted. Nothing more.

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                @mld-woody said:

                Yep, clearly that was all there was to what I posted. Nothing more.

                That was what you said whether or not there was more.

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                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                  I'm pretty sure political affiliation would fit into woody's precious protected list. You can't fire someone based on what political party they support

                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                    S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                    Its not "fair" but actors/actress, and people who are consider face of businesses(PR people) are more preventive in expressing views or opinions that are different from the parent company or are considered controversial. A film/show/theater company would rather drop a small name actor/actress than to face any bad press or potential boycott.

                    Political views are not protected in most states specially if you are talking about it at work.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      Ugh

                      They weren't being fired just because they support the political party they do. They were being fired because the the potential effects from that support. Boycotts, angry groups at the theater, effects on the other actors, etc. Just the fact that she supported a Tea Party candidate alone isn't why she's being fired.

                      I'm guessing if you were fired because you were a Rep and your boss was a Dem them you could call byllshit and file something. Assuming there was nothing ejse going on there

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                        You gotta understand, Leroy, you're a fine employee I like you personally as a matter of fact many of my friends are African American. But gee whiz some of the customers here, well, you know, they aren't as cultured as I am so... Anyway good luck on the job search I'll be sure to give you a good recommendation. And merry Christmas to you and the family.

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                          S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                          There is a big difference when firing someone based off race and than based off a political opinion, comparing the 2 is kind of absurd. Now if the Employee was for abortion while the Employer was fervently against it(or vice versa), then the Employer could fire the Employee if he wanted(in most states this is allowed).

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                            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                            Sorry if you got the wrong idea, Leroy. It's not because of your skin color, no siree Bob! But as I recall didn't you vote for Obama last election? And didn't you have an Obama sticker on your car?

                            Security could you escort Leroy of the premises?

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                              S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                              Pretty much, though you would risk alienating customers that where pro-obama if it came to light that you hire/fire based off who someone votes for. So it would be better practice not to directly say that and to fire Leroy for another reason(even if its borderline made up). http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/discrimination-employment.aspx

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                                Pretty much, though you would risk alienating customers that where pro-obama if it came to light that you hire/fire based off who someone votes for. So it would be better practice not to directly say that and to fire Leroy for another reason(even if its borderline made up). http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/discrimination-employment.aspx

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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                @sadbrownsfan said:

                                Pretty much, though you would risk alienating customers that where pro-obama if it came to light that you hire/fire based off who someone votes for. So it would be better practice not to directly say that and to fire Leroy for another reason(even if its borderline made up). http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/discrimination-employment.aspx

                                Actually counselor I fired him for having an Obama sticker on his car. And we can all be coy about it but let that happen once and let's hear the lawsuits blaring out.

                                And I'm not required to offend everyone equally. I'm sure there are some people who are pro enforcing the laws of the land spending within the budget etc who felt Maria Conchita should not have been shit canned.

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                                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                  Ugh

                                  They weren't being fired just because they support the political party they do. They were being fired because the the potential effects from that support. Boycotts, angry groups at the theater, effects on the other actors, etc. Just the fact that she supported a Tea Party candidate alone isn't why she's being fired.

                                  I'm guessing if you were fired because you were a Rep and your boss was a Dem them you could call byllshit and file something. Assuming there was nothing ejse going on there

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Ugh

                                  They weren't being fired just because they support the political party they do. They were being fired because the the potential effects from that support. Boycotts, angry groups at the theater, effects on the other actors, etc. Just the fact that she supported a Tea Party candidate alone isn't why she's being fired.

                                  I'm guessing if you were fired because you were a Rep and your boss was a Dem them you could call byllshit and file something. Assuming there was nothing ejse going on there

                                  So...in essence fired not for performance but for supporting an unpopular political party. Sounds like a lawsuit to me

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    Hahaha, no way that would be a top program. It would be boring. You really think the crew on deadliest catch is dealing with "everyday problems"? When was the last time you risked your life on the ocean? But if you want to just say this us popular and this isn't based on your opinion, go ahead. Some people on this board do the sane thing....

                                    So Hollywood is evil? Are we morally bankrupt because of weed and sex without marriage? I see nothing wrong with either of those things. Luckily we've progressed since the thirties.

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      Hahaha, no way that would be a top program. It would be boring. You really think the crew on deadliest catch is dealing with "everyday problems"? When was the last time you risked your life on the ocean? But if you want to just say this us popular and this isn't based on your opinion, go ahead. Some people on this board do the sane thing....

                                      So Hollywood is evil? Are we morally bankrupt because of weed and sex without marriage? I see nothing wrong with either of those things. Luckily we've progressed since the thirties.

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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Hahaha, no way that would be a top program. It would be boring. You really think the crew on deadliest catch is dealing with "everyday problems"? When was the last time you risked your life on the ocean? But if you want to just say this us popular and this isn't based on your opinion, go ahead. Some people on this board do the sane thing....

                                      So Hollywood is evil? Are we morally bankrupt because of weed and sex without marriage? I see nothing wrong with either of those things. Luckily we've progressed since the thirties.

                                      Are you sure? And what do you base that on?

                                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                        I like how she's drummed out of the "Latin"community by insinuating that people should do the right thing. Sort of like how Bill Cosby has been criticized for saying similar things. I mean who gives a shit who is going to pay for undocumented migrants, what's more important is were they offended?

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          I like how she's drummed out of the "Latin"community by insinuating that people should do the right thing. Sort of like how Bill Cosby has been criticized for saying similar things. I mean who gives a shit who is going to pay for undocumented migrants, what's more important is were they offended?

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                                          I like how she's drummed out of the "Latin"community by insinuating that people should do the right thing. Sort of like how Bill Cosby has been criticized for saying similar things. I mean who gives a shit who is going to pay for undocumented migrants, what's more important is were they offended?

                                          Didn't one of these articles also say that candidate was against some measures that would help current illegals gain citizenship? That might not have helped. I also would say that isn't necessarily the "right" thing

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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