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That still doesn't mean you can be humble about being a great player. The 'beef' between Crabtree and Sherman is shit we dealt with in high school, and he's acting like it too in a lot of ways. Again, I'm fine with the guy being fired up but there's a line you gotta walk as a pro player. Nothing will change my mind about that, there's a difference in having swagger and just acting like a douche.
I doubt Sherman really cares about trying to change your mind.
I doubt Sherman really cares about trying to change your mind.
He cared enough to respond publicly about it so obviously the organization or his 'haters' got to him. Also, plenty of sports people across the board have been saying the same thing I've said here. Pete Carroll on a radio show said in a different way what I said here. It's not a crazy concept. I could literally care less in the long run about this, but I just hope he clears it up moving forward. I actually like Sherman and respect how he plays against rules basically all against CB's in the NFL.
The last thing I'll say about this whole thing is there's a gigantic difference between confidence and humility. Sherman has all confidence in the world and I applaud him for that.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't hate him for this, but it certainly doesn't make me like him any more, and it may even make me like him less. Fired up before and during the game is great. Super pumped about a great play is great. Winning the NFC championship and the major thing on your mind is that some guy said something that hurt your feelings? Grow up a little bit. You had a great game, you had a great play, you're headed to the SB, so be excited. Don't let what Michael Crabtree said about you be more important to you than the wonderful moment you should be enjoying.
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I doubt Sherman really cares about trying to change your mind.
He cared enough to respond publicly about it so obviously the organization or his 'haters' got to him. Also, plenty of sports people across the board have been saying the same thing I've said here. Pete Carroll on a radio show said in a different way what I said here. It's not a crazy concept. I could literally care less in the long run about this, but I just hope he clears it up moving forward. I actually like Sherman and respect how he plays against rules basically all against CB's in the NFL.
The last thing I'll say about this whole thing is there's a gigantic difference between confidence and humility. Sherman has all confidence in the world and I applaud him for that.
He cared enough to respond publicly about it so obviously the organization or his 'haters' got to him. Also, plenty of sports people across the board have been saying the same thing I've said here. Pete Carroll on a radio show said in a different way what I said here. It's not a crazy concept. I could literally care less in the long run about this, but I just hope he clears it up moving forward. I actually like Sherman and respect how he plays against rules basically all against CB's in the NFL.
The last thing I'll say about this whole thing is there's a gigantic difference between confidence and humility. Sherman has all confidence in the world and I applaud him for that.
I doubt "haters" got to him. More like his PR person did.
People are just pussies nowadays.
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Classic comment!!!:
There are a lot of receivers playing good ball out there, and Josh Gordon needed 14 games to produce almost double what Crabtree can do in a full season. And Gordon had Brandon Weeden, Brian Hoyer and Jason Campbell playing quarterback.
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Classic comment!!!:
There are a lot of receivers playing good ball out there, and Josh Gordon needed 14 games to produce almost double what Crabtree can do in a full season. And Gordon had Brandon Weeden, Brian Hoyer and Jason Campbell playing quarterback.
:lol: :lol: :lol:Classic comment!!!:
:lol: :lol: :lol:At least the league respects Gordon. That's one highlight of this season at least. Although Lombardi was wrong about him when he worked for NFLN so he'll probably trade him for a 2nd rounder.
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Why bother with such a hypothetical. Why not just ask: would you trade your wife for Kaley Cuoco. Silly to even bother.
Why spend hours on useless trivia questions that only three people end up answering?
At least this is about roster management and current NFL players. Stop being a dickbag.
Why spend hours on useless trivia questions that only three people end up answering?
At least this is about roster management and current NFL players. Stop being a dickbag.
Because it is fun for me and for those who participate....and because it demonstrates that by your lack of participation that you know diddly squat about what fans actually care about football.
Which you don't. You think you know football because maybe you played it once? So did I, in my backyard.
But, we are fans. Not coaches, not players. Fans.
Besides.....the trivia deals with facts......not silly "what ifs".
Like....lets propose a trade of a 7th round pick and Brandon Weeden for Aaron Rodgers.
Do YOU really think that such a thing merits discussion?
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That's not what I said in the slightest. I'm not saying I wouldn't have been happy and even yelling, but I'd repeat 100 times that a sign of being truly great is being humble off the field. I'd bet my left nut that if Peyton had a feud with Sherman and threw the game winning TD on him he wouldn't act that way. It's not a crazy concept, and Sherman has plenty of time to figure it out.
I don't disagree with what Mikey said there either. At the end of the day it doesn't bother me personally what the guy said. I'd take Sherman on the Browns in a heartbeat.
The problem with that comparison is that one is a quarterback and one is a cornerback.
You try and play corner with Peyton's demeanor and you get beat 11 times out of 10,
Defensive players have to be fired up. There's no two ways around it.
The problem with that comparison is that one is a quarterback and one is a cornerback.
You try and play corner with Peyton's demeanor and you get beat 11 times out of 10,
Defensive players have to be fired up. There's no two ways around it.
No they don't. They just have to play well. There temperament can be irrelevent. A defender can play well if he is calm, cool, and collected.....or, maybe some others do need to get fired up. Either way, play well, do the job.
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That has to be one of the funniest things I've seen in a while, nearly spit up my drink!
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Thank you everyone who replied!
If I had the option of tading Keenan Lewis for Sherman, I would not.
Sherm's demenor and sportsmanship is horrible, frankly great CBs shouldn't rely on so much PI and illegal contac to be good.
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Why bother with such a hypothetical. Why not just ask: would you trade your wife for Kaley Cuoco. Silly to even bother.
Hey, it helps pass time when it's the offseason for most
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Gip, you're an overweight, old judge. Stick to things you know, like sitting in traffic court and being relatively unliked by most of society.
I don't participate in your trivia because I give zero fucks about who served in the Navy in 1967 and also has the middle name "Herbert". That doesn't help me (or anybody else) win football games. All that does is assure everyone that you don't get laid.
I am currently a coach. I am still a player. I also have my blog, which has gotten 10,000+ reads since I started it last month with absolutely no advertising help other than word of mouth. I also am a staff writer for another website, which gets 5x that viewership. I was offered an internship for the Atlanta Falcons based on some of the things I posted here I included in my resume. And I will be soon accepting a job with Fox Sports in Charlotte, North Carolina based on my extremely limited portfolio, which shows that I do, in fact, know what I'm talking about.
So yes, I do know more about football than you. I put my time into this. I spend my free time downloading and watching game film, not Googling what brand of underwear Fran Tarkenton wore in cold weather. I know the differences in terminology, scheme and overall philosophy between an Erhardt-Perkins offense and a Coryell offense. I know the actual reasons behind the phenomenal success of the Seahawks defense. These are the things I spend my time learning.
I used to shit on Mike about writing for bleacherreport because I was jealous, but now I finally understand what it's like to be on his end of the spectrum. It's immeasurably frustrating putting your time and energy into something and then trying to hold conversation with people who are so adamant that their ill-advised opinions are more important or correct.
Fans don't care about Bart Starr's Aunt Tilda. Sorry to break it to you.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Gip, you're an overweight, old judge. Stick to things you know, like sitting in traffic court and being relatively unliked by most of society.
I don't participate in your trivia because I give zero fucks about who served in the Navy in 1967 and also has the middle name "Herbert". That doesn't help me (or anybody else) win football games. All that does is assure everyone that you don't get laid.
I am currently a coach. I am still a player. I also have my blog, which has gotten 10,000+ reads since I started it last month with absolutely no advertising help other than word of mouth. I also am a staff writer for another website, which gets 5x that viewership. I was offered an internship for the Atlanta Falcons based on some of the things I posted here I included in my resume. And I will be soon accepting a job with Fox Sports in Charlotte, North Carolina based on my extremely limited portfolio, which shows that I do, in fact, know what I'm talking about.
So yes, I do know more about football than you. I put my time into this. I spend my free time downloading and watching game film, not Googling what brand of underwear Fran Tarkenton wore in cold weather. I know the differences in terminology, scheme and overall philosophy between an Erhardt-Perkins offense and a Coryell offense. I know the actual reasons behind the phenomenal success of the Seahawks defense. These are the things I spend my time learning.
I used to shit on Mike about writing for bleacherreport because I was jealous, but now I finally understand what it's like to be on his end of the spectrum. It's immeasurably frustrating putting your time and energy into something and then trying to hold conversation with people who are so adamant that their ill-advised opinions are more important or correct.
Fans don't care about Bart Starr's Aunt Tilda. Sorry to break it to you.
Gip, you're an overweight, old judge. Stick to things you know, like sitting in traffic court and being relatively unliked by most of society.
I don't participate in your trivia because I give zero fucks about who served in the Navy in 1967 and also has the middle name "Herbert". That doesn't help me (or anybody else) win football games. All that does is assure everyone that you don't get laid.
Fans don't care about Bart Starr's Aunt Tilda. Sorry to break it to you.
I enjoy the trivia a lot even though I don't usually participate. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can speak for everyone else. Also, posting all the things you did there in order to show off on an internet forum just makes you look a douche. Usually respect what you write here but spouting off things you do is the same shit Ghoolie did and it's pretty pathetic. If you really don't think we're on the same almighty level as you are than don't post, it's not hard. We're casual fans who like to say crazy things on a forum. Sure people say stupid shit but it's all part of being a fan.
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Loved this! and i am enraged by all the hatred for him. So many people who dont know jack shit about football are spewing out their opinions on what he did... calling him a thug.. and classless. HES THE BEST CORNER IN THE GAME! and not only that but he grew up in Compton, was 2nd in his hs class and then got a 4.2 gpa at Stanford! how do you not love everything about this guy! he was even smart enough to not swear on live TV! Just listen to Crabtree talk and tell me whos the thug. Sherman plays with the same passion and toughness that Brady does and I love it. I hope Joe Haden starts doing this once he starts getting actual interviews (that might take a couple years...)
Loved this! and i am enraged by all the hatred for him. So many people who dont know jack shit about football are spewing out their opinions on what he did... calling him a thug.. and classless. HES THE BEST CORNER IN THE GAME! and not only that but he grew up in Compton, was 2nd in his hs class and then got a 4.2 gpa at Stanford! how do you not love everything about this guy! he was even smart enough to not swear on live TV! Just listen to Crabtree talk and tell me whos the thug. Sherman plays with the same passion and toughness that Brady does and I love it. I hope Joe Haden starts doing this once he starts getting actual interviews (that might take a couple years...)
Being the best doesn't entitle you to be a classless douche bag. I can't believe any of you think what he said was anything but classless.
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Yeah. Pick on somebody your own size, oh wait- aren't whales are an endangered species?
Have some respect, Gip's paid his dues. You, on the other hand...
Gipper be like:
"DON'T YOU EVER TALK ABOUT ME..." 🥷
..naw, he's has too much swag for that. You, on the other hand...
no swag. 
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Gip, you're an overweight, old judge. Stick to things you know, like sitting in traffic court and being relatively unliked by most of society.
I don't participate in your trivia because I give zero fucks about who served in the Navy in 1967 and also has the middle name "Herbert". That doesn't help me (or anybody else) win football games. All that does is assure everyone that you don't get laid.
I am currently a coach. I am still a player. I also have my blog, which has gotten 10,000+ reads since I started it last month with absolutely no advertising help other than word of mouth. I also am a staff writer for another website, which gets 5x that viewership. I was offered an internship for the Atlanta Falcons based on some of the things I posted here I included in my resume. And I will be soon accepting a job with Fox Sports in Charlotte, North Carolina based on my extremely limited portfolio, which shows that I do, in fact, know what I'm talking about.
So yes, I do know more about football than you. I put my time into this. I spend my free time downloading and watching game film, not Googling what brand of underwear Fran Tarkenton wore in cold weather. I know the differences in terminology, scheme and overall philosophy between an Erhardt-Perkins offense and a Coryell offense. I know the actual reasons behind the phenomenal success of the Seahawks defense. These are the things I spend my time learning.
I used to shit on Mike about writing for bleacherreport because I was jealous, but now I finally understand what it's like to be on his end of the spectrum. It's immeasurably frustrating putting your time and energy into something and then trying to hold conversation with people who are so adamant that their ill-advised opinions are more important or correct.
Fans don't care about Bart Starr's Aunt Tilda. Sorry to break it to you.
Gip, you're an overweight, old judge. Stick to things you know, like sitting in traffic court and being relatively unliked by most of society.
I know football. I know the things that people....fans care bout football
I don't participate in your trivia because I give zero fucks about who served in the Navy in 1967 and also has the middle name "Herbert". That doesn't help me (or anybody else) win football games. All that does is assure everyone that you don't get laid.
Your response just proves you don't know shit about the game that fans love.....only about esoteric shit about the game that no one gives a shit about.
I am currently a coach. I am still a player. I also have my blog, which has gotten 10,000+ reads since I started it last month with absolutely no advertising help other than word of mouth. I also am a staff writer for another website, which gets 5x that viewership. I was offered an internship for the Atlanta Falcons based on some of the things I posted here I included in my resume. And I will be soon accepting a job with Fox Sports in Charlotte, North Carolina based on my extremely limited portfolio, which shows that I do, in fact, know what I'm talking about.
Well, I will take your alleged credentials with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, with all that....and yet you waste your time her?. So I guess when you take that job in Charlotte you won't have time to be on here....and you will perhaps actually learn the things that fans care about.
So yes, I do know more about football than you. I put my time into this. I spend my free time downloading and watching game film, not Googling what brand of underwear Fran Tarkenton wore in cold weather. I know the differences in terminology, scheme and overall philosophy between an Erhardt-Perkins offense and a Coryell offense.
Yea.....like I said....stuff that only players/coaches know/care about. Fans don't care about your terminology/philosophy other than in general terms.
Hell, fans could care less about whether you are teaching the Erhardt/Perkins offense from the Amelia Erhardt/Marlon Perkins.....unless maybe it is asked about in a trivia question.
I mean....the only thing we are interested in in terms of tactics is "What the fuck does Peyton Manning mean yelling out Omaha all the time?
I know the actual reasons behind the phenomenal success of the Seahawks defense. These are the things I spend my time learning.
Really? See below.
used to shit on Mike about writing for bleacherreport because I was jealous, but now I finally understand what it's like to be on his end of the spectrum. It's immeasurably frustrating putting your time and energy into something and then trying to hold conversation with people who are so adamant that their ill-advised opinions are more important or correct.
NOW YOU are learning. People....fans don't care about all those intricacies. They care far more about the stuff I care about.
Most Browns fans probably know exactly One play call: Red Right 88.
WE don't know FB West Slot Right 36 Stick from West Jets Right Shark Story switchblade.....and we don't care.
Fans don't care about Bart Starr's Aunt Tilda. Sorry to break it to you.
No....but they do care if Tom Brady is going to approach Bart Starr's Championship and passing records.....which is the stuff I put in the trivia....if you ever paid attention.
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do you remember the 3rd down play a bit earlier that had Crabtree running a quick slant right into two waiting linebackers
only to see him stop and hesitate as Kaepernicks pass went right by crabtree.. alligator arms !!!. WHAD A puss I thought and then the big smile on his face as the
network went to commercial? lol
SF was on their own 23 and went for it on 4th down when I think Gore caught the first down pass...
Crabtree did redeem himself later in the drive with a sideline catch though... I wanted SF to win. oh well.....
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do you remember the 3rd down play a bit earlier that had Crabtree running a quick slant right into two waiting linebackers
only to see him stop and hesitate as Kaepernicks pass went right by crabtree.. alligator arms !!!. WHAD A puss I thought and then the big smile on his face as the
network went to commercial? lol
SF was on their own 23 and went for it on 4th down when I think Gore caught the first down pass...
Crabtree did redeem himself later in the drive with a sideline catch though... I wanted SF to win. oh well.....
do you remember the 3rd down play a bit earlier that had Crabtree running a quick slant right into two waiting linebackers
only to see him stop and hesitate as Kaepernicks pass went right by crabtree.. alligator arms !!!. WHAD A puss I thought and then the big smile on his face as the
network went to commercial? lol
SF was on their own 23 and went for it on 4th down when I think Gore caught the first down pass...
Crabtree did redeem himself later in the drive with a sideline catch though... I wanted SF to win. oh well.....
Maybe TCOP can tell you what the play was called terminology wise....and what the philosophy behind it was, and why it worked or didn't work.
All important things to the "insider". I don't mean to depracate them.
But that is not the stuff guys sit around and talk/argue about at the bar.
They talk about: Whose better? Brady or Manning.....and you get the older dude chiming in saying: Neither could hold a candle to Otto Graham or Johnny Unitas....or Bart Starr.
And then they move on to: which dynasty is better: the 1970s Steelers or the 49ers?
And then they ask: who would you rather have suck your dick, Kaley Cuoco or Megan Fox.
(the answer is you would rather have Megan Fox suck your dick, but you might take Kaley home to your parents.)
Not too often do you get an argument over: which play calling system is better, the Coryell System....or the Erhardt/Perkins system.
And you might get an argument over: Which is the nicer town: Omaha or Wichita?
(now that one I could provide some insight on)
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Gip, you're an overweight, old judge. Stick to things you know, like sitting in traffic court and being relatively unliked by most of society.
I know football. I know the things that people....fans care bout football
I don't participate in your trivia because I give zero fucks about who served in the Navy in 1967 and also has the middle name "Herbert". That doesn't help me (or anybody else) win football games. All that does is assure everyone that you don't get laid.
Your response just proves you don't know shit about the game that fans love.....only about esoteric shit about the game that no one gives a shit about.
I am currently a coach. I am still a player. I also have my blog, which has gotten 10,000+ reads since I started it last month with absolutely no advertising help other than word of mouth. I also am a staff writer for another website, which gets 5x that viewership. I was offered an internship for the Atlanta Falcons based on some of the things I posted here I included in my resume. And I will be soon accepting a job with Fox Sports in Charlotte, North Carolina based on my extremely limited portfolio, which shows that I do, in fact, know what I'm talking about.
Well, I will take your alleged credentials with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, with all that....and yet you waste your time her?. So I guess when you take that job in Charlotte you won't have time to be on here....and you will perhaps actually learn the things that fans care about.
So yes, I do know more about football than you. I put my time into this. I spend my free time downloading and watching game film, not Googling what brand of underwear Fran Tarkenton wore in cold weather. I know the differences in terminology, scheme and overall philosophy between an Erhardt-Perkins offense and a Coryell offense.
Yea.....like I said....stuff that only players/coaches know/care about. Fans don't care about your terminology/philosophy other than in general terms.
Hell, fans could care less about whether you are teaching the Erhardt/Perkins offense from the Amelia Erhardt/Marlon Perkins.....unless maybe it is asked about in a trivia question.
I mean....the only thing we are interested in in terms of tactics is "What the fuck does Peyton Manning mean yelling out Omaha all the time?
I know the actual reasons behind the phenomenal success of the Seahawks defense. These are the things I spend my time learning.
Really? See below.
used to shit on Mike about writing for bleacherreport because I was jealous, but now I finally understand what it's like to be on his end of the spectrum. It's immeasurably frustrating putting your time and energy into something and then trying to hold conversation with people who are so adamant that their ill-advised opinions are more important or correct.
NOW YOU are learning. People....fans don't care about all those intricacies. They care far more about the stuff I care about.
Most Browns fans probably know exactly One play call: Red Right 88.
WE don't know FB West Slot Right 36 Stick from West Jets Right Shark Story switchblade.....and we don't care.
Fans don't care about Bart Starr's Aunt Tilda. Sorry to break it to you.
No....but they do care if Tom Brady is going to approach Bart Starr's Championship and passing records.....which is the stuff I put in the trivia....if you ever paid attention.
Gip, you're an overweight, old judge. Stick to things you know, like sitting in traffic court and being relatively unliked by most of society.
I know football. I know the things that people....fans care bout football
I don't participate in your trivia because I give zero fucks about who served in the Navy in 1967 and also has the middle name "Herbert". That doesn't help me (or anybody else) win football games. All that does is assure everyone that you don't get laid.
Your response just proves you don't know shit about the game that fans love.....only about esoteric shit about the game that no one gives a shit about.
I am currently a coach. I am still a player. I also have my blog, which has gotten 10,000+ reads since I started it last month with absolutely no advertising help other than word of mouth. I also am a staff writer for another website, which gets 5x that viewership. I was offered an internship for the Atlanta Falcons based on some of the things I posted here I included in my resume. And I will be soon accepting a job with Fox Sports in Charlotte, North Carolina based on my extremely limited portfolio, which shows that I do, in fact, know what I'm talking about.
Well, I will take your alleged credentials with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, with all that....and yet you waste your time her?. So I guess when you take that job in Charlotte you won't have time to be on here....and you will perhaps actually learn the things that fans care about.
So yes, I do know more about football than you. I put my time into this. I spend my free time downloading and watching game film, not Googling what brand of underwear Fran Tarkenton wore in cold weather. I know the differences in terminology, scheme and overall philosophy between an Erhardt-Perkins offense and a Coryell offense.
Yea.....like I said....stuff that only players/coaches know/care about. Fans don't care about your terminology/philosophy other than in general terms.
Hell, fans could care less about whether you are teaching the Erhardt/Perkins offense from the Amelia Erhardt/Marlon Perkins.....unless maybe it is asked about in a trivia question.
I mean....the only thing we are interested in in terms of tactics is "What the fuck does Peyton Manning mean yelling out Omaha all the time?
I know the actual reasons behind the phenomenal success of the Seahawks defense. These are the things I spend my time learning.
Really? See below.
used to shit on Mike about writing for bleacherreport because I was jealous, but now I finally understand what it's like to be on his end of the spectrum. It's immeasurably frustrating putting your time and energy into something and then trying to hold conversation with people who are so adamant that their ill-advised opinions are more important or correct.
NOW YOU are learning. People....fans don't care about all those intricacies. They care far more about the stuff I care about.
Most Browns fans probably know exactly One play call: Red Right 88.
WE don't know FB West Slot Right 36 Stick from West Jets Right Shark Story switchblade.....and we don't care.
Fans don't care about Bart Starr's Aunt Tilda. Sorry to break it to you.
No....but they do care if Tom Brady is going to approach Bart Starr's Championship and passing records.....which is the stuff I put in the trivia....if you ever paid attention.
So, you proved my point. You care about shit that doesn't matter to football. That's all I was trying to say. Thank you.
I post here because I generally like posting here. I generally like the people. I generally enjoy the dialogue. But over the last month I've literally had three seperate conversations (none of them with you, I'll admit) with people who make an outlandish and I'll-informed claim, then when they are presented the stats or facts they say (ad-libbing) "I don't care about stats or facts, that doesn't matter. What matters is that I'm right because I'm right".
If you're going to make a claim, back it up with empirical research. If you don't and somebody calls you on your bullshit, then you deserve everything you get.
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Oooh, now HERE is a discussion. First, TCPO, congrats on your successes and bright future. For the record, I do think you generally know what you're talking about, and I pay attention to your opinions.
That being said, I think the road your post leads down is a unfortunate one. Being a football expert has a few unfortunate drawbacks when it comes to public/common debate. First, it is a sport of uncertainty; no one is ever always right, and the least educated person can often be proven right over the expert. This makes it dangerous to claim expertise and to suggest that your opinion trumps all others, because it will only make people that much quicker to point out when you do end up being wrong.
The second problem is that football is so widespread and popular. The more popular and accessible a topic of discussion is, the more difficult it is to be sure that the people to whom you are speaking are not also as knowledgeable or capable as you. Let's say that you even have the best football-related accomplishments of anyone on the forums, weren't you as capable of talking/learning about football prior to those accomplishments? You didn't suddenly know everything you now know about football when you started your blog last month. So how do you know that someone else isn't just as knowledgeable as you were then or now but just hasn't pursued the measurable accomplishments that you have? You mentioned that you used to argue with someone else who wrote for a sports publication. How do you know the next you isn't in these forums somewhere?
Finally, even if you're the most knowledgeable and accomplished person in these forums when it comes to football, you should feel like the people here have something to offer you that you cannot offer yourself. Otherwise, there's little point in you frequenting these boards. I'm sure it gets frustrating for you sometimes when you feel like you are truly right here and someone else is truly wrong, but there's a nobility in not playing the "I'm the expert, and you're not" card. I happen to be a linguist, but I don't correct people's English online or suggest that my stylistic language preferences are better than anyone else's. I don't even always make an effort to write things correctly myself. Why? Because I'm not as concerned with being correct as I am with hearing what other people have to say, even when I know/think they are wrong.
In short, if you feel that you're more knowledgeable and more probably correct, then take internal satisfaction in your confidence, even if it is frustrating not to proclaim your superiority. Don't demand the deference of other posters based on the premise of your expertise.
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