Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Class

[The Cysko Kid]

@the-gipper said:

I am sorry, I have to stop believing you now.

What is that you say? No, don't?

http://www.kansas.com/2013/08/23/2958948/journey-drummer-urges-fans-to.html

[FairHooker11]

@the-cysko-kid said:

His voice is ok if you like high, shrieking banshees

I think Thailand guy Arniel Penida is the banshee, unlistenable.....

[Kosar_For_President]

Nirvana is the best and single most important band in the HOF.

[The Gipper]

@kosar_for_president said:

Nirvana is the best and single most important band in the HOF.

Ahh....No. That would be The Beatles....and no legitimate industry person would deny it.

The Beatles, in fact, were the #2 best selling artist of the 2000-2009 decade.....and influenced probably every single other band in there..

I mean, even if I didn't like them, I would have to acknowledge that.

[Westside Steve]

I would say that Nirvana is extremely influential and important.

Probably at least in the same league with the beatles elvis presley and frank sinatra. Certainly not as influential and important as other members of that league but still...

Up to the individual to decide who is best though.

WSS

[gftChris]

@westside-steve said:

I would say that Nirvana is extremely influential and important.

Probably at least in the same league with the beatles elvis presley and frank sinatra. Certainly not as influential and important as other members of that league but still...

Up to the individual to decide who is best though.

WSS

Got to put people like the cure and led zep in that discussion as well. Maybe not the cure up there with the beatles, but Led Zep certainly are around there.

[Westside Steve]

absolutely Led Zeppelin. As well as the Rolling Stones David Bowie Bob Dylan Bruce Springsteen the Eagles...

along with the Beatles Frank Sinatra Elvis Presley...

I need to round out the ten most important and influential of all time... Maybe your Nirvana belongs in that group? Johnny Cash?

WSS

[The Cysko Kid]

@gftchris said:

Got to put people like the cure and led zep in that discussion as well. Maybe not the cure up there with the beatles, but Led Zep certainly are around there.

Led zepplin is a great band. They in no way defined an era like nirvana. Not even in the same league in terms of importance and influence on their peers.

[Bob806]

@the-cysko-kid said:

Led zepplin is a great band. They in no way defined an era like nirvana. Not even in the same league in terms of importance and influence on their peers.

Led Zeppelin & Black Sabbath certainly defined their era. If it wasn't for them, there would be no Nirvana or Metallica for instance.

[The Cysko Kid]

No not at all.I disagree completely and totally. Especially about black Sabbath who are just terrible. And I posit that Pink Floyd was more influential than either of them.

[The Cysko Kid]

I'd say led zeppkin was no more influential in the 70s than kiss. Do we say kiss defined their era?

[Bob806]

@the-cysko-kid said:

No not at all.I disagree completely and totally. Especially about black Sabbath who are just terrible. And I posit that Pink Floyd was more influential than either of them.

Well, that's your opinion on Sabbath. Every one of those "countdown" type shows, like the top 100 albums for instance, the modern hard rock groups all reference Sabbath & Tony Iommi. Albums like Vol.4 & Sabotage, which didn't get a lot of airplay are truly awesome.

[The Cysko Kid]

Sabbath was awe inspiringly bad.

[Bob806]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath

Lol Cysco, like I said that's your opinion.

[The Cysko Kid]

Yeah and its art and if I hate them and think they're utter bottom feeding garbage and that heavy metal is the most horrible noise and Its fans are the dregs of society that's my prerogative. Where, exactly, though do you see the influence of black Sabbath in Nirvana? If a British band could have been said to be influential to them its way more pistols than Sabbath. And Sabbath is not fit to lick mettalica's horrible shitty-band boots.

[Bob806]

Early releases

Nirvana released its first single, "Love Buzz", in November 1988 on the Seattle independent record label Sub Pop.^[19] The following month, the band began recording its debut album, Bleach, with local producer Jack Endino.^[20]Bleach was highly influenced by the heavy dirge-rock of the Melvins and Mudhoney, 1980s punk rock, and the 1970s heavy metal of Black Sabbath. Novoselic said in a 2001 interview with Rolling Stone that the band had played a tape in their van while on tour that had an album by The Smithereens on one side and an album by the black metal band Celtic Frost on the other, and noted that the combination probably played an influence as well.^[21] The money for the recording sessions for Bleach, listed as $606.17 on the album sleeve, was supplied by Jason Everman, who was subsequently brought into the band as the second guitarist. Though Everman did not actually play on the album, he received a credit on Bleach because, according to Novoselic, they "wanted to make him feel more at home in the band".^[22] Just prior to the album's release, Nirvana insisted on signing an extended contract with Sub Pop, making the band the first to do so with the label.^[23]

^{^^from Wikipedia Cysco...for what it's worth}

[The Cysko Kid]

Wikipedia is often cited as a highly accurate source of anything, but that's just another person's opinion same as mine. I read some accolades for Sabbath in the interim and theres no doubt they're enduringly popular but I still hate them and think they're just truly truly awful. I saw them live at the first ozfest as well and that was just terrible. I hate ozzy, I think that's the issue. I still can't agree they in any way defined a musical era. They certainly didn't define the seventies, mid late or otherwise and they in no way defined the 80s in the slightest. Not like the Beatles dominated an era or Michael Jackson or Nirvana or Elvis. Those are acts that defined a period of music. I don't put led zepplin in the seventies on that level, although theyre way way closer than Sabbath. Would you honestly put Sabbath in that crew?

[The Cysko Kid]

I mean just because they were big doesnt give them era defining status. The rolling stones were huge they didn't define the era. The Beatles did. The Beatles stopped touring forty years ago and half of them are dead and they still outsell and get more play than the stones

[Westside Steve]

I think you guys let your own tastes and emotions run away with you. I wonder why no one has mentioned Tupac Shakur or Run DMC? At least one of those seminal rap artist has more impact in the world of popular music and more influence then many others no? Whether or not you despise every note they play, or say.

WSS

[The Cysko Kid]

No. Ice cube and nwa were much more influential than 2pac. Come on. Run dmc was primitive rap and while they may have been influential nwa was in my mind the real godfather of modern rap music