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Tajh Boyd's Falling Stock makes him more of a Steal?

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  • cdl15 cdl15C Very Popular
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    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by hoorta
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    #10 Tajh Boyd

    Position: Quarterback Height: 6'1" Weight: 225 Year: Redshirt Senior Hometown: Hampton, VA High School: Phoebus HS Major: Sociology Experience: 3 Letters

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    Had a strong arm and good leadership qualities ... was 901-1402 passing for 11,904 yards and 107 touchdowns against 39 interceptions in 2,963 snaps over 47 games (40 starts) in his career ... completed 64.3 percent of his passes and had a 155.2 pass efficiency rating ... had 1,165 rushing yards and 26 rushing touchdowns ... had 13,069 total yards and was responsible for an ACC-record 133 touchdowns ... had an ACC-record 107 passing touchdowns ... first in school history in passing touchdowns, first in passing efficiency, first in touchdown responsibility, first in passing yards, first in completions, first in completions per game (19.2), first in passing attempts, first in completion percentage, first in total offense yards, first in total offense plays (1,907), first in 200-yard passing games (35), first in 300-yard passing games (18), first in 200-yard total offense yard games (36), first in 300-yard total offense yard games (22), first in consecutive starts at quarterback (40), first in snaps by a quarterback (2,963), first in top-25 wins by a starting quarterback (8), tied for first in wins by a starting quarterback (32), third in passing yards per attempt (8.49), fifth in interception avoidance (.0278), fifth in snaps, and tied for 10th in rushing touchdowns ... had 12 of the top-14 single-game passing yardage totals in school history ... set the school record for consecutive passing attempts without an interception (187) from 2012 to 2013 ... had a 32-8 career record as a starter ... three-time All-ACC selection (media) ... two-time First-Team All-ACC selection (media), the first Tiger quarterback to do that since Steve Fuller (1977,78).

    Once a projected First Rounder and now about a Fifth Rounder by many mocks Tajh could very well be a steal in the later rounds of this years draft class. If for nothing more than an outside shot at the qb position this kid has all the intangibles of a very very good "football player". i.e. RB, or WR. If the Browns were too snatch him up for value I'd like to see what they could do with a 6'1" 225lbs 4.5 40yd guy that is not a juke and jive guy but a tough guy to bring down.

    Just a suggestion.........

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      K kc3902 wrote on last edited by
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      I would have no problem at all with this guy in the 4th or 5th.

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        I'm not a Boyd fan. His stock falling doesn't make him more of a steal it just means he isn't that good.

        Too many short and screen passes, plus Watkins made him look good. Apparently had a really bad senior bowl showing too.

        In the 4th or 5th maybe, but the dude is a backup/madden guy.

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          Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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          I highly doubt hes ever sniffed a 4.5. Not so sure about the strong arm either. Very erratic with his accuracy, especially down the field. In our position, we cant take a project like he would be, unless hes the second QB we've drafted. I could think of far worse ways we've spent a fifth round pick, but I bet he doesnt make it to day 3.

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            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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            Boyd was accustomed to throwing his receivers high. That's why a majority of his passes in the Senior Bowl practices were high.

            In the 5th, not a bad pick. He put up good numbers against solid enough talent, and he has some solid physical attributes.

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              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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              I don't foresee anything more than a 3rd string QB career for Boyd. He could surprise but I don't see it right now.

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                D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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                We should pick him up............. as an undrafted free agent

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                  Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                  I could envision him as a poor man's Donovan McNabb.

                  Not because of his skin color, because he has enough mobility to elude pass rushers if needed and has solid production in a relatively middle class college conference.

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    The guy is 6'1", same height as Manziel that people are screaming is too small? OK, yeah, probably too small for a QB. I hear you about getting a 6'1 guy that's 225 and runs a 4.5 40, but we basically have that in Greg Little already, which hasn't worked out too well!

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                      cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                      Not saying draft this guy as the franchise qb. But in the ladder rounds when ur not really tryin to score need positions but rather just a solid football player this could be a great flyer. I coulda said no matter who is the Kent st qb is we gotta get just outta probability.

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        OK, se we're agreed he's not QB material at least, good. Then what? Does he have sound enough football knowledge that he can instantly transfer to another position? He ran a lot at Clemson, right, maybe he's a decent RB? Except we've already got a guy in Grey who's an ex-QB trying to make it at another position. It wouldn't be the absolute worst idea in the world, but I'd rather see us taking bets on guys who've shown production but might have other red flags, like we did with Billy Winn and then Armonty Bryant.

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                          R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                          Ehh fifth round why not give the guy a shot. There is no way he isn't better than weeden....right?

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                            jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                            I wouldnt be opposed to him in the 5 to 7th lol. I think based on our track record of drafting QB's we need one in the first 3 and another before the draft ends anyway.

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                              Ehh fifth round why not give the guy a shot. There is no way he isn't better than weeden....right?

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                              jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                              The problem with Boyd and most things I've read by scouts is how markedly inconsistent he was this year. He looked great against bad defenses (see Ohio state) but terrible against good defenses (see Florida St). His numbers really got inflated as a result of this too. If they wanted to give him a shot in the late round as a project I wouldn't scream and shout, but I don't think he's ever going to be a franchise guy.

                              @roycerolls said:

                              Ehh fifth round why not give the guy a shot. There is no way he isn't better than weeden....right?

                              Heck I'm pretty sure my experiece as a JV QB and a month in the weight room would make me as good as Weeden haha.

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                                OK, se we're agreed he's not QB material at least, good. Then what? Does he have sound enough football knowledge that he can instantly transfer to another position? He ran a lot at Clemson, right, maybe he's a decent RB? Except we've already got a guy in Grey who's an ex-QB trying to make it at another position. It wouldn't be the absolute worst idea in the world, but I'd rather see us taking bets on guys who've shown production but might have other red flags, like we did with Billy Winn and then Armonty Bryant.

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                                Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                @gftchris said:

                                OK, se we're agreed he's not QB material at least, good. Then what? Does he have sound enough football knowledge that he can instantly transfer to another position? He ran a lot at Clemson, right, maybe he's a decent RB? Except we've already got a guy in Grey who's an ex-QB trying to make it at another position. It wouldn't be the absolute worst idea in the world, but I'd rather see us taking bets on guys who've shown production but might have other red flags, like we did with Billy Winn and then Armonty Bryant.

                                What makes Boyd "not QB material"? I'd love to know.

                                He was a first round pick coming into this year. His stock fell because he came up lame against Florida State and South Carolina, but was still figured to be a 3rd round pick at the latest. Then he goes to the Senior Bowl and overthrows his receivers, a side effect of throwing Watkins and Hopkins high for his entire career.

                                Boyd in the fifth round or later is not a bad pick. He won't transfer positions. He'll be a backup/third string QB with first round potential. That's it.

                                Three months ago, people were clamoring for him to be a possible franchise QB, now he's not worth a fifth? Get that out of here.

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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  OK, se we're agreed he's not QB material at least, good. Then what? Does he have sound enough football knowledge that he can instantly transfer to another position? He ran a lot at Clemson, right, maybe he's a decent RB? Except we've already got a guy in Grey who's an ex-QB trying to make it at another position. It wouldn't be the absolute worst idea in the world, but I'd rather see us taking bets on guys who've shown production but might have other red flags, like we did with Billy Winn and then Armonty Bryant.

                                  What makes Boyd "not QB material"? I'd love to know.

                                  He was a first round pick coming into this year. His stock fell because he came up lame against Florida State and South Carolina, but was still figured to be a 3rd round pick at the latest. Then he goes to the Senior Bowl and overthrows his receivers, a side effect of throwing Watkins and Hopkins high for his entire career.

                                  Boyd in the fifth round or later is not a bad pick. He won't transfer positions. He'll be a backup/third string QB with first round potential. That's it.

                                  Three months ago, people were clamoring for him to be a possible franchise QB, now he's not worth a fifth? Get that out of here.

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                                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                  What makes Boyd "not QB material"? I'd love to know.

                                  He was a first round pick coming into this year. His stock fell because he came up lame against Florida State and South Carolina, but was still figured to be a 3rd round pick at the latest. Then he goes to the Senior Bowl and overthrows his receivers, a side effect of throwing Watkins and Hopkins high for his entire career.

                                  Boyd in the fifth round or later is not a bad pick. He won't transfer positions. He'll be a backup/third string QB with first round potential. That's it.

                                  Three months ago, people were clamoring for him to be a possible franchise QB, now he's not worth a fifth? Get that out of here.

                                  He's probably worth a 5th, but assuming we draft a QB in round 1, and we have Hoyer - why spend the pick when we need depth at other positions more. We can find our 3rd stringer undrafted, through FA, or use one we already have (weeden/campbell).

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    I am sure Tajh will have at least as good a pro career as Troy Smith did.

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                                      Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                                      Haha thats the comparison I was about to make ^.

                                      Troy was better.

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                                        I am sure Tajh will have at least as good a pro career as Troy Smith did.

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                                        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by Tim Couch Pulls Out
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        I am sure Tajh will have at least as good a pro career as Troy Smith did.

                                        Troy Smith is also easily just as good as, if not better than, any quarterback we've had on our roster in that past 5-10 years, so that's not really a good comparison for an argument against his potential.

                                        4-4 as a starter, 8 TD, 5 INT, 1734 yards, and a rating of 78.5. Never had a losing season as a starter. Never had a multi INT game.

                                        That's a quality backup.

                                        In his worst game, he went 16-31 for 148 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT for a rating of 51.

                                        Weeden already has 4 games worse than that.

                                        I don't see the fuss, the chances of a 5th round player making an impact are already slim. These rounds are normally reserved for depth and prayer picks. Boyd will certainly be the most talented player available. That's a move good franchises make.

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                                          Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                                          He wont make it to the fifth round....doubt he makes it to the 4th. Troy was a 3rd? Kinda sucks he never got a real shot.

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