Tajh Boyd's Falling Stock makes him more of a Steal?
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Ehh fifth round why not give the guy a shot. There is no way he isn't better than weeden....right?
The problem with Boyd and most things I've read by scouts is how markedly inconsistent he was this year. He looked great against bad defenses (see Ohio state) but terrible against good defenses (see Florida St). His numbers really got inflated as a result of this too. If they wanted to give him a shot in the late round as a project I wouldn't scream and shout, but I don't think he's ever going to be a franchise guy.
Ehh fifth round why not give the guy a shot. There is no way he isn't better than weeden....right?
Heck I'm pretty sure my experiece as a JV QB and a month in the weight room would make me as good as Weeden haha.
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OK, se we're agreed he's not QB material at least, good. Then what? Does he have sound enough football knowledge that he can instantly transfer to another position? He ran a lot at Clemson, right, maybe he's a decent RB? Except we've already got a guy in Grey who's an ex-QB trying to make it at another position. It wouldn't be the absolute worst idea in the world, but I'd rather see us taking bets on guys who've shown production but might have other red flags, like we did with Billy Winn and then Armonty Bryant.
OK, se we're agreed he's not QB material at least, good. Then what? Does he have sound enough football knowledge that he can instantly transfer to another position? He ran a lot at Clemson, right, maybe he's a decent RB? Except we've already got a guy in Grey who's an ex-QB trying to make it at another position. It wouldn't be the absolute worst idea in the world, but I'd rather see us taking bets on guys who've shown production but might have other red flags, like we did with Billy Winn and then Armonty Bryant.
What makes Boyd "not QB material"? I'd love to know.
He was a first round pick coming into this year. His stock fell because he came up lame against Florida State and South Carolina, but was still figured to be a 3rd round pick at the latest. Then he goes to the Senior Bowl and overthrows his receivers, a side effect of throwing Watkins and Hopkins high for his entire career.
Boyd in the fifth round or later is not a bad pick. He won't transfer positions. He'll be a backup/third string QB with first round potential. That's it.
Three months ago, people were clamoring for him to be a possible franchise QB, now he's not worth a fifth? Get that out of here.
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OK, se we're agreed he's not QB material at least, good. Then what? Does he have sound enough football knowledge that he can instantly transfer to another position? He ran a lot at Clemson, right, maybe he's a decent RB? Except we've already got a guy in Grey who's an ex-QB trying to make it at another position. It wouldn't be the absolute worst idea in the world, but I'd rather see us taking bets on guys who've shown production but might have other red flags, like we did with Billy Winn and then Armonty Bryant.
What makes Boyd "not QB material"? I'd love to know.
He was a first round pick coming into this year. His stock fell because he came up lame against Florida State and South Carolina, but was still figured to be a 3rd round pick at the latest. Then he goes to the Senior Bowl and overthrows his receivers, a side effect of throwing Watkins and Hopkins high for his entire career.
Boyd in the fifth round or later is not a bad pick. He won't transfer positions. He'll be a backup/third string QB with first round potential. That's it.
Three months ago, people were clamoring for him to be a possible franchise QB, now he's not worth a fifth? Get that out of here.
What makes Boyd "not QB material"? I'd love to know.
He was a first round pick coming into this year. His stock fell because he came up lame against Florida State and South Carolina, but was still figured to be a 3rd round pick at the latest. Then he goes to the Senior Bowl and overthrows his receivers, a side effect of throwing Watkins and Hopkins high for his entire career.
Boyd in the fifth round or later is not a bad pick. He won't transfer positions. He'll be a backup/third string QB with first round potential. That's it.
Three months ago, people were clamoring for him to be a possible franchise QB, now he's not worth a fifth? Get that out of here.
He's probably worth a 5th, but assuming we draft a QB in round 1, and we have Hoyer - why spend the pick when we need depth at other positions more. We can find our 3rd stringer undrafted, through FA, or use one we already have (weeden/campbell).
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I am sure Tajh will have at least as good a pro career as Troy Smith did.
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Troy Smith is also easily just as good as, if not better than, any quarterback we've had on our roster in that past 5-10 years, so that's not really a good comparison for an argument against his potential.I am sure Tajh will have at least as good a pro career as Troy Smith did.
4-4 as a starter, 8 TD, 5 INT, 1734 yards, and a rating of 78.5. Never had a losing season as a starter. Never had a multi INT game.
That's a quality backup.
In his worst game, he went 16-31 for 148 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT for a rating of 51.
Weeden already has 4 games worse than that.
I don't see the fuss, the chances of a 5th round player making an impact are already slim. These rounds are normally reserved for depth and prayer picks. Boyd will certainly be the most talented player available. That's a move good franchises make.
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He wont make it to the fifth round....doubt he makes it to the 4th. Troy was a 3rd? Kinda sucks he never got a real shot.
u can honestly say that about 90% of all Qbs that come thru the nfl. It's amazing to think what happens if Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Nck Foles, Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomm, ect ect never get a chance to prove themselves because of draft prospecting, a few bad games in college, or just isn't good in practice. And how many guys predicted to be can't miss guys actually are??XxDaBuckeyexX said:
He wont make it to the fifth round....doubt he makes it to the 4th. Troy was a 3rd? Kinda sucks he never got a real shot.
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Troy Smith is also easily just as good as, if not better than, any quarterback we've had on our roster in that past 5-10 years, so that's not really a good comparison for an argument against his potential.I am sure Tajh will have at least as good a pro career as Troy Smith did.
4-4 as a starter, 8 TD, 5 INT, 1734 yards, and a rating of 78.5. Never had a losing season as a starter. Never had a multi INT game.
That's a quality backup.
In his worst game, he went 16-31 for 148 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT for a rating of 51.
Weeden already has 4 games worse than that.
I don't see the fuss, the chances of a 5th round player making an impact are already slim. These rounds are normally reserved for depth and prayer picks. Boyd will certainly be the most talented player available. That's a move good franchises make.
Boyd will certainly be the most talented player available.
you funny.
got your crystal ball working on overtime?
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Tajh Boyd isn't good. He'd be our 3rd string quarterback.
Let's risk the pick on a position it may actually benefit, because we won't win the SB with a 3rd string QB.
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Tajh Boyd isn't good. He'd be our 3rd string quarterback.
Let's risk the pick on a position it may actually benefit, because we won't win the SB with a 3rd string QB.
Tajh Boyd isn't good. He'd be our 3rd string quarterback.
Let's risk the pick on a position it may actually benefit, because we won't win the SB with a 3rd string QB.
based on what
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If you recall, Troy Smith beat out Flacco for the starting job. When he was unable to play because of illness, Flacco took full advantage of the opportunity.
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He's not good.
not good looking.
c'mon man. we all place our 'fave' picks on the hollywood status all-in-one tom brady category.
sorry if you're an albino with red freckles..... like the nephew of weeden or sumthin.
i say have blake griffin come in with lebron and lift us up to another level.
lift us up.
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Boyd will certainly be the most talented player available.
you funny.
got your crystal ball working on overtime?
you funny.
got your crystal ball working on overtime?
It's not hard to assume. A guy who was rated in the top ten only months prior, still available in the fifth. Hardly a stretch, honestly.
And let's face it, we need all the QB talent we can get. The third string QB is only two plays away from starting, as every Browns fan should realize by now.
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Im still trying to figure out why some people want to pass on the highest rated QBs this year to roll with our third stringer from last year...
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Im still trying to figure out why some people want to pass on the highest rated QBs this year to roll with our third stringer from last year...
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