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  • Farmer has been nearly 100% in charge of scouting for the draft since we brought him in. He's the one at all the events, with his team of guys. Not sure how much say he has on draft day though, but I would hope closer to 50%

    #Justsayin'
    Nuckin FutzN The GipperT 2 Replies
  • thenew23T thenew23

    Farmer has been nearly 100% in charge of scouting for the draft since we brought him in. He's the one at all the events, with his team of guys. Not sure how much say he has on draft day though, but I would hope closer to 50%

    @thenew23 said:

    Farmer has been nearly 100% in charge of scouting for the draft since we brought him in. He's the one at all the events, with his team of guys. Not sure how much say he has on draft day though, but I would hope closer to 50%

    If the Browns hit a home run in the 2014 draft, who do you think will get credit for a great draft? It sure as fuck won't be Farmer!

    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein
  • thenew23T thenew23

    Farmer has been nearly 100% in charge of scouting for the draft since we brought him in. He's the one at all the events, with his team of guys. Not sure how much say he has on draft day though, but I would hope closer to 50%

    @thenew23 said:

    Farmer has been nearly 100% in charge of scouting for the draft since we brought him in. He's the one at all the events, with his team of guys. Not sure how much say he has on draft day though, but I would hope closer to 50%

    So? What you are saying is that Lombardi may actually be Mike Holmgren Jr.? Hangs arounds, smokes cigars. does diddley squat?

  • Seems, btw, that everyone is turning down the Dolphins GM job.

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    @jcam222 said:

    If we are lucky its because Haslam told him Banner and Lombardi are headed out and he is getting a promotion.

    This thought has been in my mind for some days now.

    The first step was getting the HC issue settled.

    Now wait to get all the assistants settled, and I honestly think we may see Haslam show Lombardi the door.

    Lombardi hasn't even been tracking players down at the Senior Bowl, Farmer's the one that's been scouting out the the players.

    Think about that a minute.

    Farmer's doing all our scouting, then gets hired by Miami as their new GM (so we would've basically been paying Farmer to scout for the Dolphins), and then since Lombardi's off schmoozing somewhere we end up without the scouting info we're looking for.

    No sir, it would not surprise me one bit to see Lombardi heading out after all the crap that's been tied to him already.

    @jafbf said:

    This thought has been in my mind for some days now.

    The first step was getting the HC issue settled.

    Now wait to get all the assistants settled, and I honestly think we may see Haslam show Lombardi the door.

    Lombardi hasn't even been tracking players down at the Senior Bowl, Farmer's the one that's been scouting out the the players.

    Think about that a minute.

    Farmer's doing all our scouting, then gets hired by Miami as their new GM (so we would've basically been paying Farmer to scout for the Dolphins), and then since Lombardi's off schmoozing somewhere we end up without the scouting info we're looking for.

    No sir, it would not surprise me one bit to see Lombardi heading out after all the crap that's been tied to him already.

    A most interesting rumor is starting to heat up today, just along the lines of what I speculated on above :

    MF Jones ‏@CONCEDE 3h Whispers seem to think a major move is being discussed..... Front office related. If you've paid attn you prob know my guess #Browns

    Jeffrey Goines ‏@Animaleyz 2h @CONCEDE some kind of under the table deal Farmer and Pettine came to while in Mobile. Farmer staying announcement came minutes after...

    MF Jones ‏@CONCEDE 3h Whispers think the move could happen before the combine.... Which could explain why in the world farmer wanted to stay. #Browns

    MF Jones ‏@CONCEDE 2h “@FiveThous: .@CONCEDE Lombardi gone and farmer promoted? Dream come true.”-- or both promoted

    One thing I can say, this Off - Season hasn't been boring yet . . .

  • Just found this as well :

    http://dawgpoundnation.com/2014/02/04/rumors-mike-lombardi-on-his-way-out-as-browns-general-manager/

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  • This would be awesome. Keep our good people here, get rid of the guy that failed 5-6 times.

  • Sounds like this is coming from a couple different directions and sources, supposed to be more info coming out about it over the next two or three days.

  • Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    bbedwardB thenew23T Z 3 Replies
  • L LondonBrown

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    I could speculate a little bit:

    1.) Pettine was not the candidate Lombardi wanted to hire

    2.) Lombardi is butting heads with Farmer and the other scouts on their prospect rankings.

    3.) Lombardi's probably not going anywhere this offseason, but maybe he's on the hot seat

    @londonbrown said:

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    Most people think he's a big part of that Chiefs team that's been assembled out in KC.

    L Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I could speculate a little bit:

    1.) Pettine was not the candidate Lombardi wanted to hire

    2.) Lombardi is butting heads with Farmer and the other scouts on their prospect rankings.

    3.) Lombardi's probably not going anywhere this offseason, but maybe he's on the hot seat

    @londonbrown said:

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    Most people think he's a big part of that Chiefs team that's been assembled out in KC.

    @bbedward said:

    Most people think he's a big part of that Chiefs team that's been assembled out in KC.

    I hope this is true if so!

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I could speculate a little bit:

    1.) Pettine was not the candidate Lombardi wanted to hire

    2.) Lombardi is butting heads with Farmer and the other scouts on their prospect rankings.

    3.) Lombardi's probably not going anywhere this offseason, but maybe he's on the hot seat

    @londonbrown said:

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    Most people think he's a big part of that Chiefs team that's been assembled out in KC.

    @bbedward said:

    I could speculate a little bit:

    1.) Pettine was not the candidate Lombardi wanted to hire

    2.) Lombardi is butting heads with Farmer and the other scouts on their prospect rankings.

    3.) Lombardi's probably not going anywhere this offseason, but maybe he's on the hot seat

    Current possibities, but was it not also true that Lombardi wanted Chud? That plus his 2013 draft ought to be enough.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • L LondonBrown

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    @londonbrown said:

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    In his time with the Chiefs, he was involved (to what extent I don't know) with drafting 11, of their 22, 2013 starters, plus a few guys they lost in FA who started for other teams...

    He also was part of the FO that traded Jared Allen to the Vikings... which you might not think was a good idea, but they eventually drafted Branden Albert, their starting LG, and a guy named Jamaal Charles with the picks they received in that trade...

    I don't think he is some talent evaluator "guru" who's going to find those 6th round and UDFA gems, BUT when he was in KC it seemed that they never missed in the first 3 rounds, and that's what counts...

    #Justsayin'
  • L LondonBrown

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    @londonbrown said:

    Is Farmer actually that good or is it case of he isn't Lombardi?

    I think it is a "hope" thing.

    Young up and coming guy ... could be our Ozzie Newsome.

    And, yes, that's the easy comparison because he's black ... but let's go with it.

    Zombo

    --and he isn't Lombardi

  • My theory: Lombardi has been dead for months. Or at least incapacitated.

    1. Has never been at a press conference, whether hiring or firing a coach or just answering reporter's questions.

    2. Team hasn't made any fucking stupid roster moves in months.

    3.Farmer would rather freeze his black ass off as assistant GM in Cleveland than be GM in Miami? No.

    4. Banner said "Larry and Moe needed a Curly" . Well, he's Moe, and Jimmy is Larry. Shemp had a full-blown seizure after the Patriots game ... that's why we needed a Curly.

    Zombo

    gftChrisG 1 Reply

  • Wonder if Lombardi guaranteed Haslem that if he fired Chud, he could get McDaniels here as HC, whiffed and dug his own grave?? They "promote" him to save face and avoid more negative publicity rather than straight up booting his ass on down the road..........either way I agree with most of you that handing the reigns over to Farmer is gonna be a good move for the Browns.

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!

  • This is more about Farmer staying so it should go here :

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/02/ray_farmer_passed_up_the_dolph.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cleveland%2Fqyck+%28Cleveland+Browns%29

    Tour2maT R 2 Replies

  • Just what I was wondering slimdog.....

    I mean that was the in we had with New England and McDaniels.

    (supposedly)

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  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    This is more about Farmer staying so it should go here :

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/02/ray_farmer_passed_up_the_dolph.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cleveland%2Fqyck+%28Cleveland+Browns%29

    @jafbf said:

    Decent Mary Kay read, if a little self-serving for the FO...

    especially Banner's "evidence" of how desireable the organization is...

    most of which was pre-Chud-dump...

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