Who all think Bortels is next Worthlessburger?
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just kinda would like a board wide opinion
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cause he plays for pitt
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That might be his absolute ceiling for a career which isn't a bad thing. His floor is quite a bit lower though.
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no one knows anything than all the podcasters and internet reviewers or MJC or even lvingston (cleve) kiper or mcshay or any fan on this forum.
if you say this is the guy and he turns out great you can toot your horn for the next millennium.
if not, you're just another schlub fan with an opinion like me.
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Closer to Dan than Ben?
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closer to ben than dover.
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I think he has a similar body type to BR. Height, weight, huskyish build. Similar arm strength and mobility. Hard to bring down.
I think that is why the comparison.
The question is does he have the same thing between the ears.
I mean we thought that Charlie Frye could be a Brian Sipe player. He wasn't. Or that Colt McCoy could do a Joe Montana imitation. He couldn't.
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I think he has a similar body type to BR. Height, weight, huskyish build. Similar arm strength and mobility. Hard to bring down.
I think that is why the comparison.
The question is does he have the same thing between the ears.
I mean we thought that Charlie Frye could be a Brian Sipe player. He wasn't. Or that Colt McCoy could do a Joe Montana imitation. He couldn't.
I think he has a similar body type to BR. Height, weight, huskyish build. Similar arm strength and mobility. Hard to bring down.
I think that is why the comparison.
The question is does he have the same thing between the ears.
I mean we thought that Charlie Frye could be a Brian Sipe player. He wasn't. Or that Colt McCoy could do a Joe Montana imitation. He couldn't.
Yeah there's just too many guys who fit the size with decent mobility and arm mold though. They come through and get washed away.
BR has some intangibles that are hard to evaluate out of college. Also I'm sure he benefitted from top notch coaching.
I'd like Bortles, but mid-late first round IMO.
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Then that begs the question do you take a bigger less skilled QB Bortels, or a smaller more athletic and accurate passer....Manziel
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I really want to buy some sorbitrate but I don't know where I'd get it.
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I haven't posted lately
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Then that begs the question do you take a bigger less skilled QB Bortels, or a smaller more athletic and accurate passer....Manziel
Then that begs the question do you take a bigger less skilled QB Bortels, or a smaller more athletic and accurate passer....Manziel
There are a whole lot of presumptions there: That JM may be more athletic than Bortles. That may not be true. That Bortles is less skilled than JM. That may not be true. That JM is a more accurate passer than Bortles. That may not be true.
The only fact you are inarguably correct on is that Bortles IS bigger than Manziel.
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IMO Bortles is not near the pure athlete Manziel is. Manziel is by far more mobile than Bortles. I mean is that really debatable?
among Carr Manziel Bortles and Bridgewater , he has the lowest percentage of passes defended or int by the D and he has the second highest roll out completion %.
Johnneys completion percentage is about 69% and Bortles is about 65%
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